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5 Soldiers Responsible in Afghan Quran Burning
Miami Herald ^ | 2 March 2012 | Nancy Youssef

Posted on 03/02/2012 11:21:24 PM PST by MadJack

A Pentagon investigation has found five soldiers responsible for burning copies of the Quran, the Muslim holy book, which set off a spate of anti-American protests and violence across Afghanistan, two U.S. military officials said Friday. The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the findings hadn't been released publicly, didn't further identify the soldiers, and there was no indication that the investigation found that they violated military laws. However, the troops could face disciplinary action.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/02/2672326/5-us-soldiers-responsible-in-afghan.html#storylink=cpy

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; pentagon; quran
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No way should these soldiers be found guilty of anything. How about some command responsibility? Our great leaders can apologize their asses off and kowtow, now how about some general, or maybe even Panetta, saying "They're my troopers, so I'm responsible."
1 posted on 03/02/2012 11:21:29 PM PST by MadJack
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To: MadJack
However, the troops could face disciplinary action.

100% absolute bullshit!!!!!

2 posted on 03/02/2012 11:27:26 PM PST by Roccus
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To: Roccus

I wonder what would happen, if all of the military walked off the job over this?


3 posted on 03/02/2012 11:28:58 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: MadJack

Agreed! Anyhow, did these korans not have terrorist messages included in the margins (in addition to the ones already present;)? Isn’t it considered blasphemy to add anything to a koran???


4 posted on 03/02/2012 11:32:02 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: MadJack

These soldiers report to a Commander-in-Chief; try him.

It can’t be “hate” if the perp is a Muslim, can it?


5 posted on 03/02/2012 11:32:26 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: MadJack

give each one of them the silver star


6 posted on 03/02/2012 11:36:25 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: MadJack
My Apology to President Karzai on Behalf of Americans Youtube video

Not what it sounds like. Huge slap in 0bama's face! Now over 917,924 views!


7 posted on 03/02/2012 11:38:36 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Frank_2001

I asked one of our interpreters if it would be heresy for someone to write in a Koran. Yes, according to him. But since these were “holy warrior” messages about resisting us godless idol worshippers, there’s apparently dispensation for that.
Also pls note all the Korans that have been burned by Taliban here in Afghanistan. Not much complaining about that, is there?


8 posted on 03/02/2012 11:41:27 PM PST by MadJack ("Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet." (Afghan proverb))
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To: MadJack

Give the CIC to The Muslim Brotherhood to do with as they see fit.


9 posted on 03/02/2012 11:58:56 PM PST by NoLibZone (Buffet proves calls for more taxes is to buy votes,not reduce deficits.He pays less than Bush rates.)
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To: MadJack

Promote them to officer status, give them the keys to a new Ford of their choice and two years of free gas.


10 posted on 03/03/2012 12:03:16 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: MadJack

5 American heroes. Promote them, honor them, give them medals.

Thanks God in heaven for men such as those, and to Hell with their detractors.


11 posted on 03/03/2012 12:23:18 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Roccus
100% absolute bullshit!!!!!

affirmative

12 posted on 03/03/2012 12:27:51 AM PST by RC one (the majority of republicans agree, anyone but Romney.)
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To: MadJack

The general who ordered the Bibles burned a couple of years ago should also be punished then...


13 posted on 03/03/2012 12:36:27 AM PST by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Jonty30
I believe that is mutiny and should be treated as such.
14 posted on 03/03/2012 1:45:26 AM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: MadJack
First of all, thank you for your service.

What all of this is saying to the world (and you who fight for America's freedoms) is that it's ok for Muslims to kill anyone they want, in any barbarian manner they want, but Americans can't burn or even touch some Muslim paper they think is sacred.

Go figure!

15 posted on 03/03/2012 2:00:29 AM PST by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: starlifter

What do you call it when the superior officers abandon the enlisted soldier?

Can one really maintain order, if the enlisted cannot trust their superiors to protect them?


16 posted on 03/03/2012 2:14:54 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Roccus

Several soldiers died because jihadists are like the rodney king crowd.. they will find even the smallest excuse to cry foul and break the law. I think having several soldiers die because you were following orders is punishment enough.


17 posted on 03/03/2012 2:21:53 AM PST by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: Roccus

How can we as citizen’s stop this? They touch one hair on one of these boy’s there should be blood in Washington!


18 posted on 03/03/2012 2:37:06 AM PST by mmanager (NEWT - The Chruchill of our time!)
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To: jda
"It's ok for Muslims to kill anyone they want, in any barbarian manner they want, but Americans can't burn or even touch some Muslim paper they think is sacred."

Our country is so upside down it's scary.
We have a Law Student expecting US to buy her birth control because she can't afford it.
That is scary but that someone would agree with her is even worse. She is paying $60K per year for college but can't pay for BC?
Now our brave soldiers are being abandoned by their superiors.
We are traveling down a scary road here.

19 posted on 03/03/2012 3:42:10 AM PST by DeaconRed (Cold War Veteran. . . . US Army Security Agency 1964-1968)
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To: MadJack

They should be given Medal of Honor.


20 posted on 03/03/2012 3:43:09 AM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: mmanager
Amen! If they try, veterans should start a "Warrior Walk On Washington" and defend our brothers-in-arms on the White Hut lawn.

This misbegotten spawn of an anarchist atheist academic and an abusive African alcoholic must not sell our sons and daughters out to his Muslim masters.

21 posted on 03/03/2012 3:57:58 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Typed using <FONT STYLE=SARCASM> unless otherwise noted)
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To: MadJack
The officials said that the soldiers had misunderstood orders when they placed Qurans in the fire pit to be destroyed. They had just been ordered to remove them from the library, not burn them, they said.

Pretty unlikely. Or there would be some indication of what they were told to do with them or told to put them. If a superior did not provide such direction, he would be responsible for not providing it, not the soldiers simply implementing his unclear orders.

Would not be surprised if these soldiers were unaware these were Korans. I certainly wouldn't be able to tell a Koran from any other book written in this foreign script. In all likelihood these guys were just taking out the trash as instructed and all of a sudden are accused of being responsible for an American foreign policy disaster.

22 posted on 03/03/2012 3:58:30 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: mmanager
“How can we as citizen’s stop this?”

I’m sure one of the military personnel on this site could accidently drop the e-mail address of some high-ranker in someone’s Freepmail inbox.
Just a thought.

23 posted on 03/03/2012 4:05:12 AM PST by moose07 (The truth will out, one day.)
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To: MadJack

Reminds me of the line, “There are no rules in a knife fight”, yet we keep trying to abide by these rules....


24 posted on 03/03/2012 4:09:03 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: antceecee

True! At the least they should be awarded the “Silver Star”

Our men have their lives on the line to keep our famlies from the line(the front line, that is)


25 posted on 03/03/2012 4:17:24 AM PST by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonymous)
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To: MadJack
When we find out who they are I would like to spearhead a support group. I've never done anything like that, but I'm so enraged by this that I'm going to do some research into it. These soldiers need our support since they will probably get none from obama.
26 posted on 03/03/2012 4:17:24 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: MadJack

Unfortunately there’s been a continued effort to socialize the military over the years since tailhook. The latest BS is the Don’t Ask Don’t Tell repeal and the constant PC push and sensitivity training. We’re losing leaders and they are being replaced with program managers and I see it on a daily basis.

A leader would stand up for these soldiers, tell the Afghans to go to hell and rain hell on any crowd attempting to get to close in protest.

Program managers apologize, find a scapegoat and punish them to cover their own ass to make them look good.


27 posted on 03/03/2012 4:19:40 AM PST by maddog55 (OBAMA: Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Well said. If a guy doesn’t read Arabic how does he check what’s in the pile? Was there a list of reference numbers akin to a basic document register? This looks to me like a failure on several levels, but no one has the balls to stand up and say anything.


28 posted on 03/03/2012 4:26:00 AM PST by MadJack ("Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet." (Afghan proverb))
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To: MadJack

Arabic, since it’s Korans that are the subject. Obviously Dari and Pashtu would also be required.


29 posted on 03/03/2012 4:28:09 AM PST by MadJack ("Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet." (Afghan proverb))
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To: MadJack

As you say, they’d have to know Arabic. Many, though not all, Muslims consider translating the Koran or writing it in a script other than Arabic to be heretical.

In (very) partial defense of the Afghan response, Muslims view the Koran not just as a book, but as the Word of God, that it was uncreated and pre-existing for all time. Not particularly logical, but then religions, sort of by definition, aren’t often examplars of logic.

Thus “desecration” of the Koran is viewed much more severely by devout Muslims than similar treatment of the Bible is viewed by Christians or Jews. The view is much closer to “desecration” of a Host, which Catholics and Orthodox view as literally the Body of God. Accusations of the desecration of a Host was the usual trigger for pogroms during the middle ages and early modern times.


30 posted on 03/03/2012 4:48:52 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: MadJack

How many Afghans were responsible for the murder of NATO /and or American troops? When the Afghans responsible for these deaths are held accountable for their bloody actions then —and not until then can I agree to any punishment of those responsible for the burning of the bloody Koran. When our Govt. ceases to save the freaking wild men from their own bloody system of Shariah Law — Of Islam then we will find peace.But this Administration celebrates the death of America and Americans.


31 posted on 03/03/2012 4:53:08 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: starlifter

“I believe that is mutiny and should be treated as such.”

That action would not meet the legal requirements for a mutiny.


32 posted on 03/03/2012 5:00:49 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: Roccus

Absolute bull$hit. Its okay for our young men to get this a$$ shot up, but just don’t burn any paper! This should do a lot for military recruitment! We are governed by fools.


33 posted on 03/03/2012 5:40:46 AM PST by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson)
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To: goodwithagun

My fear is that once their names are made public their families will be in danger from muslim fanatics.


34 posted on 03/03/2012 5:42:25 AM PST by heylady (“Sometimes I wish I could be a Democrat and then I remember I have a soul.”( Deb))
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To: Jonty30

“I wonder what would happen, if all of the military walked off the job over this?”

....and visited the arms rooms/magazines/weapons depots before they left?

Oblama would vomit, p#ss, and sh#t his pants, the muslim faggot, that’s what. And then stick his ass in the air, facing mecca, praying to Lucifer.


35 posted on 03/03/2012 5:45:34 AM PST by Levante
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To: MadJack

Actually, the whole f*king thing sounds like a set-up to get our boys and girls killed.


36 posted on 03/03/2012 5:48:25 AM PST by Levante
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To: MadJack

Scapegoats.


37 posted on 03/03/2012 5:49:49 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Roccus

Absolute bull$hit. Its okay for our young men to get their a$$ shot up, but just don’t burn any paper! This should do a lot for military recruitment! We are governed by fools. (Sorry for the typo, meat to use their not this)


38 posted on 03/03/2012 5:50:43 AM PST by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson)
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To: Levante

“I wonder what would happen, if all of the military walked off the job over this?”


I had a discussion with some one about the first homo round several years. They were all upset and threatened to resign, but then reality set it with the question “where would we go?” He and his buddies did leave but it was over time.


39 posted on 03/03/2012 5:58:35 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Yes, I think all religions consider the destruction of sacramental objects by non-believers one of the worst possible things.
That said, I’ve heard more than a few Afghan gov’t spokesmen and tribal elders say the insurgents aren’t real Muslims. Still, when they are said to be responsible for destruction of holy books or mosques, hell, even when they kill worhsippers, it doesn’t make much of a stir.


40 posted on 03/03/2012 6:09:40 AM PST by MadJack ("Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet." (Afghan proverb))
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To: Levante

““I wonder what would happen, if all of the military walked off the job over this?”

....and visited the arms rooms/magazines/weapons depots before they left?”

I’d love to see it happen. I have never been so revulsed by any person as this pos, poseur. creepinchief


41 posted on 03/03/2012 6:12:58 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: freeangel

Oblama is God’s curse on America.


42 posted on 03/03/2012 6:18:10 AM PST by Levante
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To: Sherman Logan

How in the world are the Soldiers to dispose of the Korans once they have been defaced by the detainees?? Are they supposed to leave defiled Korans for other detainees to look at? What if word got out that the US made detainees read defaced Korans?!?

It is the detainees who desecrated the the Korans that are responsible for their ultimate destruction.


43 posted on 03/03/2012 6:25:40 AM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: Dr. Pritchett

Let’s bring them home to a HERO’S welcome!


44 posted on 03/03/2012 6:31:51 AM PST by yorkie01
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To: MadJack

45 posted on 03/03/2012 6:50:18 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: MadJack

If these five worked for me, I would not be able to give them medals for it, but I would do everything possible in terms of their evaluations and their assignments and free time to make their lives and their official records as nice as possible. It might not be enough to balance the political actions that will be taken against them, but it’s the least I could do.


46 posted on 03/03/2012 6:51:56 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Voter#537
Our country is so upside down it's scary.
We have a Law Student expecting US to buy her birth control because she can't afford it.
That is scary but that someone would agree with her is even worse. She is paying $60K per year for college but can't pay for BC?
Now our brave soldiers are being abandoned by their superiors.
We are traveling down a scary road here.

I never thought I would live in actual prophecy times where evil is good and good is evil.........................
47 posted on 03/03/2012 8:27:52 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.)
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To: Jonty30

Any enlisted man coming to the end of his contract, any officer who’s fulfilled his obligation and anyone who’s eligible to retire needs to think long and hard about what this implies. While I cannot condone desertion, anyone in a position to leave the service should do so. Anyone who remains, or who enlists from this point on, should realize they are utterly expendable for political gain.

Quality means nothing, loyalty means nothing, faithful service means NOTHING. The war is over. We have lost. And our armed forces are being left to the mercies of the merciless. Sauve qui peut.


48 posted on 03/03/2012 9:20:04 AM PST by Mountain Troll (My investment plan - Canned food and shotguns)
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To: rbmillerjr
Citation?
49 posted on 03/03/2012 4:40:49 PM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: starlifter

LOL...citation?

Aren’t you the one making the claim?

You claimed an action was mutinous with no supporting evidence.

I claim otherwise and you demand a citation.

Hilarious.


50 posted on 03/03/2012 5:13:54 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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