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Obama: Sin is what doesn't match 'my values'
SRN News.com ^ | March 2, 2012 | Michael Foust / Baptist Press

Posted on 03/03/2012 7:28:31 AM PST by Gritty

The one-hour interview by Cathleen Falsani was conducted when Obama was running for U.S. Senate (2004)...

Among Obama's most intriguing answers, he says he believes there are many paths to God. His answers on heaven and sin, though, have drawn the most discussion:

FALSANI: "Do you believe in heaven?"

OBAMA: "Do I believe in the harps and clouds and wings?"

FALSANI: "A place spiritually you go to after you die?"

OBAMA: "What I believe in is that if I live my life as well as I can, that I will be rewarded. I don't presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die. But I feel very strongly that whether the reward is in the here and now or in the hereafter, the aligning myself to my faith and my values is a good thing. When I tuck in my daughters at night and I feel like I've been a good father to them, and I see in them that I am transferring values that I got from my mother and that they're kind people and that they're honest people, and they're curious people, that's a little piece of heaven."

FALSANI: "Do you believe in sin?"

OBAMA: "Yes."

FALSANI: "What is sin?"

OBAMA: "Being out of alignment with my values."

FALSANI: "What happens if you have sin in your life?"

OBAMA: "I think it's the same thing as the question about heaven. In the same way that if I'm true to myself and my faith that that is its own reward; when I'm not true to it, it's its own punishment."

Obama said he is a Christian but that he also draws beliefs from other religions.

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KEYWORDS: faith; falsani; obama; obamareligion; obamavalues; sin
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To: Gritty

So lying is one of his values?


51 posted on 03/03/2012 8:51:53 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Gritty

the obvious question wasn’t asked. “When\how did you become a Christian ?”


52 posted on 03/03/2012 8:54:21 AM PST by stylin19a (time to Obamanos)
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To: Gritty

Sooooo many wrong things in just one interview.

The guy clearly is not Christian. He may try to cover himself with a veneer of Christian but there’s no Chrisianity underneath the wafer thin coating.

If you read what he says, it’s much more close to what muslims believe than what Christians believe.

He doesn’t “presume” to know what happens to him after death. It’s not presumption when the Bible tells you what happens to you after death. If you die with Jesus as your personal Savior, because of His atoning death for you, you are able to be with Him in Heaven. Now every Christians’ review of their lives, and from it, rewards and lack of rewards, is not known to us at the moment as they will vary by person, but it is hardly presumptuous for a Christian who believes in Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord, to say I know I will be in Heaven when I die. That is the CERTAIN hope Christians have. Not the “gee I hope I did enough good to get into heaven” uncertain, wishing hope that every other works-based religion - which all other religions are = works-based - have.


53 posted on 03/03/2012 8:54:21 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Gritty

Arrogant fake. No mention of God, no mention of the Bible. Only mention of sin being failure to align with HIS values.

Humanist, not spiritual. obozo answers to nobody. If he does answer to a “higher power” it is his koran.


54 posted on 03/03/2012 8:55:18 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: Gritty

I would imagine there are quite a few in politics who share these same views. Sadly, too many voters probably view this as being tolerant and open minded.


55 posted on 03/03/2012 8:58:17 AM PST by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: MinuteGal

You are correct in all respects. You are right that he is not worth the breath to speak of.

The only thing worth the time is to show that he is a fake to others and I really doubt that if they don’t see that by now they ever will.

Just as in your citations, this statement is either a lie or full of ignorance of the truth. My Bible tells me what happens after I die. I don’t have to presume it, I only need to believe it.

“I don’t presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die.”

I only pray I don’t meet this devil in eternity.


56 posted on 03/03/2012 9:03:45 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Anyone else notice that when Obama has said “Koran”, that he pronounces it with an Arabic inflection in the voice?

There's a youtube video splicing together occasions where BO talked about the Koran. In every case, he called it "the holy Koran." What Christian would refer to the Koran as holy? The Koran and the Bible cannot both be holy.

57 posted on 03/03/2012 9:23:50 AM PST by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: Gritty
Hmm, no mention of a global or societal or even better, a Christian view of sin.

He is of the opinion that good works will get him into Heaven and he actually thinks HE gets to be the one who judges his sin. I can hear Narcissus saying, damn, that guy is seriously Narcissistic.

1) When has he done any 'good' works?
2) He went to a supposedly Christian church and doesn't understand that the only remission of his sins comes from the Son?

He's going to have a fun time explaining to God his life without an advocate (Jesus) by his side. Maybe he can ask Bill Ayers to help.

I hope he likes water; burning scalding water for which there is no relief.

I can hear it now, "Depart from me, I never knew you".

58 posted on 03/03/2012 9:28:30 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: DTogo
That would be the “72 virgins” answer

he cant even answer the question and dodges it by hiding behind his daughters

but his view of the afterlife seems a lot more islamic than Christian

the “values” he got from his mother? Contempt for America? Posing for nude photos for lecherous black marxist Frank Marshall as a teenager?Chasing and casually but obsessively bedding dark skinned men? Pursuing gratuitous graduate studies in Indonesian textiles after hiring a tranny nanny and then dumping a 10 yr old on his grandparents to raise? No wonder he ignored her while she was dying and only came home to dump her ashes into the sea. Same with grandma.

hack hack (sorry, hair ball)

59 posted on 03/03/2012 9:44:07 AM PST by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I hope you will read and heed the counsel of fellow Freepers who write about the atoning blood of Christ the Lord. Dependence on this Atonement of Christ for you, and your belief that God raised Jesus Christ from the dead, is the only measure of a person’s Christianity, according to Scripture. I am praying for you.


60 posted on 03/03/2012 9:45:32 AM PST by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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To: Gritty
FALSANI: “What is sin?”

OBAMA: “Being out of alignment with my values.”

(WOW that sure tells it all...no external point of reference...self centered...think their god)

61 posted on 03/03/2012 9:47:53 AM PST by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: Gritty
"What I believe in is that if I live my life as well as I can, that I will be rewarded.

Barry sounds catholic.
62 posted on 03/03/2012 9:48:59 AM PST by crosshairs
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To: Dilbert San Diego
he may have been drawn by tenets of “being his brothers keeper”, but he hasn't been a keeper of any of his own family relations - brothers, mothers, grannies, aunts or other of his african relatives living in poverty or on on welfare here and abroad

I think he thinks Jesus meant the government (obama the great) should take care of his brothers and we should give him $4 trillion borrowed and printed dollars a year to pay for it

63 posted on 03/03/2012 9:49:40 AM PST by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: Gritty

At the current time, we don’t even truly know who this man is.

He has not provided one original document to verify his:

Birth location
Birth date
Birth name
Birth parents

We think his mother was Dunham, but we basically accepted that based on a fable at this point.

I don’t know who this guy is for sure, but I sure do know that he is a person who is a chain lair.

Him stating that it is against his nature to sin, is like saying it’s against a dunks nature to drink. It’s like saying fish are allergic to water. It’s like saying he would never humble himself on behalf of the United States to a foreign leader.

To this point, this man’s whole life is based on a lie.


64 posted on 03/03/2012 9:59:05 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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To: DTogo

He sounds like my mother. She was a good person and part of me hopes she will be saved but it never sunk in what being a Christian was all about. It’s not about “being a good person”. It is about acknowledging the sin in your life and accepting God’s free gift through the death of Jesus Christ.

“No one comes to the Father but by Me,” Jesus said. So either Jesus was a liar and not the Son of God or he was telling the truth and the only way to salvation is by accepting Christ as your savior, not by being a “good person” or “living true to my values”.


65 posted on 03/03/2012 10:01:21 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: Gritty

Falsani? Really?

Good heavens, you couldn’t even make this stuff up...

It’s a name that at the core is based on false or falsehood.

What’s the next interviewer going to be, Jane Damned Liar?


66 posted on 03/03/2012 10:01:34 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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To: Gritty

She may not be able to say he’s not a Christian, but I certainly can. Those answers are not the answers of a Christian.

He got most of his religious beliefs from Judaism?

This guy is a pathological liar.

He is cunning. He may not be able to fool all the people, but he has been laying in wait to fool many people.

He is evil.


67 posted on 03/03/2012 10:14:01 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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To: Gritty
FALSANI: "What is sin?"

OBAMA: "Being out of alignment with my values."

The bastard thinks he's a god.

68 posted on 03/03/2012 10:16:00 AM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: DoughtyOne
At the current time, we don’t even truly know who this man is.

So true.

But we can rest assured God knows precisely who he is and what he really believes. Oblabber is not fooling Him, and He gets to make the final vote!

69 posted on 03/03/2012 10:35:29 AM PST by Gritty (Obama is, of course, greater than Jesus - POLITIKEN, Danish Newspaper, 12/29/2009)
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To: Gritty

Well, then there is a small light at the end of the tunnel after all. :^)

Good call...


70 posted on 03/03/2012 10:42:12 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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To: Gritty
FALSANI: "What is sin?"

OBAMA: "Being out of alignment with my values."


From Frost/Nixon by Peter Morgan:

Frost: Are you really saying that there are certain situations where the President can decide whether it's in the best interests of the nation and do something illegal?

Nixon: I'm saying that when the President does it, that means it's not illegal.
71 posted on 03/03/2012 11:23:51 AM PST by obama-facts (www.obama-facts.org)
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To: Gritty

Bammy Boy in shuck n jive mode...just making it up as he goes along. He just admitted he draws from Islam for his potpourri religion


72 posted on 03/03/2012 11:42:00 AM PST by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Anyone else notice that when Obama has said “Koran”, that he pronounces it with an Arabic inflection in the voice?

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Yes, if you combine that with his actual words, “my muslim faith” during the campaign interview with George S., which George had to correct for him, “you mean your Christian faith.” That statement revealed to me unquestionably he is a muslim. Not one Christian on earth would ever say “my muslim faith” accidently. I just don’t think it’s possible to do it.


73 posted on 03/03/2012 12:32:07 PM PST by reaganbooster (The democrat party symbol should be the grim reaper instead of the donkey.)
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To: Gritty

The entire transcript

http://sojo.net/blogs/2012/02/21/transcript-barack-obama-and-god-factor-interview

More on Gandhi, King, Lincoln, Fox News…RevWright, et al


74 posted on 03/03/2012 2:08:32 PM PST by Hush44
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To: smokingfrog

Values transferred by his mother? And, what would those values be? Fellow travelers R Us? Her love for Muslim men? Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmm.


75 posted on 03/03/2012 2:26:48 PM PST by Catsrus
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Marxist punk.


76 posted on 03/03/2012 2:28:05 PM PST by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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77 posted on 03/03/2012 2:29:49 PM PST by narses
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