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Ariz. sheriff's Obama investigator selling book
Provo Herald Extra ^ | March 3, 2012 | Associated Press

Posted on 03/03/2012 4:37:41 PM PST by neverdem

The lead investigator in an Arizona sheriff's investigation into President Obama's birth certificate is selling his report as a book.

Retired detective and volunteer Maricopa County sheriff's posse member Mike Zullo is listed as the co-author of "A Question of Eligibility," an e-book for sale through Amazon and Barnes and Noble.

The book is a copy of the investigation findings presented to the press Thursday...

(Excerpt) Read more at heraldextra.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: certifigate; coldcaseposse; forgery; fraud; mikezullo; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamaseligibility; zullo
It's a typical, denigrating AP hit piece, as if this was done just for filthy lucre, but the "Cold Case Posse" is getting some legs. I got 318 hits at Yahoo News fot the "Cold Case Posse." This book could do the trick for clueless moderates and independents sitting on the fence.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004JF4L98/ref=tsm_1_fb_lk

Click for a FREE download of Enemies Foreign And Domestic. If you read it already, just open the window. If you have a twitter account, use the tweet hashtag #EFAD, IIRC. Any corrections are always appreciated.

1 posted on 03/03/2012 4:37:49 PM PST by neverdem
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To: All

fot = for


2 posted on 03/03/2012 4:39:39 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

“Ariz. sheriff’s Obama investigator selling book”

Ah. Incredible. Capitalism.

OK .... so let’s see that unredacted paper Long Form Birth Certificate since it will match the “online” version.

No problemo, right?


3 posted on 03/03/2012 4:41:26 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: neverdem
I think it is another tool to get the word out about their

findings and research. Most of the media sees the info as non creditable. I think the findings need further attention and research; sell the book.

4 posted on 03/03/2012 4:49:03 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: F15Eagle

I agree but it is extremely stupid of these people to be capitalizing on this crisis before it is resolved. They are delegitimizing themselves and the entire search for the truth. There will be a time for selling books and I’m sure many will be written.


5 posted on 03/03/2012 4:52:13 PM PST by Josephat (The old claim your evengelizing people who haven't heard the gospel, but go to a Catholic country tr)
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To: Josephat

Bammy is playing some sort of game, distraction, shell-game, bait-and-switch, ... something.

I don’t care if they sell 100 million books. Something is funky and the focus needs to be on Bammy.

The MSM is just trying to distract. As usual.


6 posted on 03/03/2012 4:58:06 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle

“I don’t care if they sell 100 million books.”

I hope they do sell 100 million books. Every household should have one.

“The MSM is just trying to distract. As usual.”

Absolutely.


7 posted on 03/03/2012 5:41:28 PM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: F15Eagle
"OK .... so let’s see that unredacted paper Long Form Birth Certificate since it will match the “online” version."

"No problemo, right?"

It was passed around the briefing room the day of the White House press conference. There were photos taken of it. You can see one here:

http://lockerz.com/s/96540937

8 posted on 03/03/2012 6:02:16 PM PST by mlo
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks neverdem.


9 posted on 03/03/2012 6:40:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: Christie at the beach

The media doesn’t see it as “non credible”. They KNOW it’s true. They’re just covering for their marxist leader. How dumb they are. When full blown socialism is upon us the lap dogs in the media will be the first in the gulag.


10 posted on 03/03/2012 6:56:28 PM PST by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." - Peter Griffin)
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To: neverdem

It should be illegal for any law enforcement investigator to sell information gathered by acting in an official capacity.

This goes for every chiseling cop who got a book or movie deal about a serial killer. You’re a public employee and you have access to information only in your capacity as a public employee. You have no right to trade on it.


11 posted on 03/03/2012 7:57:14 PM PST by Blue Ink
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To: mlo

Why not post the picture?

Never mind, get back to me when they submit one to Sheriff Joe.

TIA


12 posted on 03/03/2012 8:16:30 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: neverdem
Sheriff's access to Hawaii archives to see original Obama long form birth certificate:

1. Does the sheriff now have the legal clout to have a judge give him access to the original Obama long form birth certificate in the Hawaii archives, because he is now pursuing a criminal investigation?

2. Pencil numbers next to certain items on birth certificate: Those small pencil numbers interest me.

3. In a recent report on the internet, researchers say that those numbers were put there because they were required for United States statistic gathering.

4. Birth certificate that Obama's mother took home, if Obama was indeed born at Kapiolani Hospital as his long form certificate states: As I understand that recent report, the numbers were NOT added by hospital clerks but by clerks at the Hawaii Health Department to meet United States statistic gathering requirements.

5. That is, if Obama had the original long form that his mother took home, as I understand the recent report, it would not have those numbers on it.

6. My point is this: I hope that the sheriff now has the legal power to pursue his criminal case as far as it will take him.

7. That is, I hope that Hawaii officials will cooperate with the sheriff without being forced to do so by a court order.

8. If the sheriff is able to gain access to Hawaii archives and touch and copy Obama's original long form birth certificate, I wonder if those pencil numbers we see on Obama's long form released by the White House will be there.

9. If those pencil marks are not there, then it means that Hawaii officials did not scan Obama's original long form that was bound in a book back in April 2011 as they claim they did.

13 posted on 03/03/2012 8:28:21 PM PST by john mirse
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To: Blue Ink
It should be illegal for any law enforcement investigator to sell information gathered by acting in an official capacity.

Sheriff Arpaio's Posse Surprise

Headed by Michael Zullo, a retired police detective, and rounded out with two former law enforcement officers and two retired attorneys, the posse's work was entirely voluntary and operated at no cost to Maricopa County taxpayers.

I'm not sure that should apply here. All they are saying is that there's probable cause that someone committed a forgery and fraud, not who.
14 posted on 03/03/2012 8:29:30 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

The investigation was conducted under the auspices of the sheriff’s office, at the direction of the sheriff.

Zullo was a sheriff’s investigator acting under color of law, retired or not, paid or not.

This investigation and any resulting information belong to the people of Arizona.

He has no right to sell it.


15 posted on 03/03/2012 8:55:42 PM PST by Blue Ink
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To: neverdem
The book “Unfit for Command”—hastily written and published by Jerome Corsi and John O'Neill after the news media boycotted the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth in 1984—exposed the real story of John Kerry's exaggerated Vietnam exploits. When the book became a bestseller the media were forced to examine the issue. Kerry was thrown on the defensive and lost the election.
16 posted on 03/03/2012 9:28:26 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: neverdem

This sounds identical to the arguments a newbie obot has been posting on the CCP threads.


17 posted on 03/03/2012 9:38:27 PM PST by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I bought “Unfit for Command.” I went to Vietnam twice as a Army grunt. I despised Kerry. Still do.

I’m in NYC. I was born here. I volunteered for Bush in PA in 2004. My sister didn’t live too far away in NJ, so I flopped at her house for 3 or 4 nights.


18 posted on 03/03/2012 9:56:25 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: PA Engineer
This sounds identical to the arguments a newbie obot has been posting on the CCP threads.

What arguments, and what's CCP, concealed carry pistol?

19 posted on 03/03/2012 10:00:47 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: F15Eagle

Socialists never sell books. They are way too “smart” for that. ;)


20 posted on 03/03/2012 10:08:45 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: neverdem

Cold Case Posse


21 posted on 03/04/2012 12:13:32 AM PST by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: neverdem
[I bought “Unfit for Command.” I went to Vietnam twice as a Army grunt. I despised Kerry. Still do. I’m in NYC. I was born here. I volunteered for Bush in PA in 2004. My sister didn’t live too far away in NJ, so I flopped at her house for 3 or 4 nights.]

God bless you. I spent 13 months in a rifle company, 1st Marine Division.

Kerry was in RVN a total of four months, one month of which was training at Cam Rhan. Whether intended or not, Kerry reignited all the old conflict and bitterness and mobilized an army of anti-Kerry vets like you and me.

Link below is to an unintentionally hilarious profile of Kerry you're probably familiar with:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A59559-2003May30?language=printer

22 posted on 03/04/2012 1:22:57 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Blue Ink
It should be illegal for any law enforcement investigator to sell information gathered by acting in an official capacity. This goes for every chiseling cop who got a book or movie deal about a serial killer. You’re a public employee and you have access to information only in your capacity as a public employee. You have no right to trade on it.

Sense of integrity or do you just hate cops?

23 posted on 03/04/2012 3:51:13 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: neverdem

I don’t think selling a book is the right thing at this time.


24 posted on 03/04/2012 6:58:32 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: neverdem

POS Dems like John fn Kerry always feel entitled to re-write history and their own personnel history in Vietnam too. Going by current trend lines the history books in 2050 will be lying liberal horror shows


25 posted on 03/04/2012 7:12:59 AM PST by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: Josephat

ditto. as if they weren’t delegitimized by the LSM enough.


26 posted on 03/04/2012 7:36:31 AM PST by epicurious
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To: Blue Ink
"...It should be illegal for any law enforcement investigator to sell information gathered by acting in an official capacity..."

I don't believe The People of Arizona or The People of Maricopa County are going to publish or sell this valuable information.

When retired, however, he can publish and sell "his autobiography". ;)

27 posted on 03/04/2012 9:32:32 AM PST by Does so ("What elephant?")
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To: Josephat

There is also a time for getting the information out there, and my question for every news outlet that mentions this book is this: How many actual pieces of evidence from the press conference have you reported?

If anybody can show me news articles other than WND articles where the actual evidence (or a summary of the evidence) from that posse is presented for the people to see, or even a link to video of the press conference itself, any reports or interviews with Arpaio about the evidence, etc.... I would dearly like to see it. If the media refuses to report the facts, that means that the only way to get those facts out there to the masses who DON’T read blogs or Free Republic is with a book, movie, or something else that goes through the capitalist means of production and dissemination.

It doesn’t look good at all for this evidence to be sold in a book. But if any news group reports how bad it looks my first and only question for them is this: What facts or evidence have you actually reported so that a book like this was not necessary?


28 posted on 03/04/2012 9:49:44 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: F15Eagle
"Why not post the picture?"

I did, right in the same post to which you replied.

"Never mind, get back to me when they submit one to Sheriff Joe."

So Sheriff Joe is now the final arbiter of what is legit? Really? As long as he gets one it's all good?

According to Hawaii, Sheriff Joe made no request to review any records. Do you think he asked the White House for a copy?

29 posted on 03/04/2012 10:05:14 AM PST by mlo
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To: neverdem

Furthermore, I signed up as butterdezillion using my Facebook account and they will not let me post. They say my password is incorrect. I changed my password successfully and they said THAT password was incorrect also.

They don’t want butterdezillion to be able to say anything about this particular subject.

Just like they don’t want the posse to be able to get FACTS and EVIDENCE into the public sphere. And then people will say that the facts and evidence presented on blogs such as mine are non-credible because those facts have never been reported by “credible news organizations”.

This is censorship - cold, calculated and blatant.


30 posted on 03/04/2012 10:09:07 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Blue Ink

True. The discloseable facts should be reported by the news media.

Some facts were presented at the press conference - stuff like the draft registration having a postal stamp with only 2 digits when all the postal stamps from that post office at that time had 4-digit stamps, or stuff like only the week of Aug 1-7 missing from the National Archives’ microfilms of passenger lists for incoming international flights, the government employee who heard Bill Ayers’ mother introduce Obama as a foreign student, etc.

That stuff should have been reported by the national news media, having been reported through legitimate means at a press conference. Besides WND, what news organization has reported those 3 facts that I just mentioned?


31 posted on 03/04/2012 10:15:26 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: mlo

Actually it wasn’t. If you look at the Gaggle report for that day, somebody asked if it would be passed around the room and what they got was laughs. Obama’s counsel actually said that even Obama was not allowed to hold the document.

What WAS passed out to the press was a copy of the COLB printed off the snopes website, a copy of the alleged long-form showing no hash-marks on it whatsoever (and clearly NOT taken from a certified document because when the source document was scanned it was thin enough to show print from a document BEHIND that source document), a copy of the letter from Obama and his counsel requesting 2 certified copies, and a copy of HDOH Director Loretta Fuddy’s response. That’s it. Period.

We know that the white copy the press was given was not from a certified document because of the bleed-through.

We know that the COLB was printed out from the snopes website.

The only person who claims to have seen the actual document was Savannah Guthrie, and she claimed to have seen, felt, and photographed it at a press conference where the White House itself admits that the genuine document never even WAS.


32 posted on 03/04/2012 10:23:18 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: mlo
Obama studiously avoids putting the document in front of a court.

Probably for good reason.

But you don't care I know. Been down this path before.

I couldn't care less about what he passes around to the WH press corps lapdogs who couldn't find a fireman in a firehouse.

33 posted on 03/04/2012 10:31:12 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: butterdezillion

I don’t think there has been ANY MSM source that has reported any facts of the matter. That fact tells me that our Freedom of Press is gone the way of our Freedom of Religion. None of our major news outlets have seen fit to report that after monthes of investigation by seasoned investigators and lawyers, the President’s birth certificate and his Selective Service Registration were determined to be FORGERIES. This should have been headlines in every media outlet. If the press were free, that would be the case. We live in interesting times. Pray


34 posted on 03/04/2012 12:42:25 PM PST by Josephat (The old claim your evengelizing people who haven't heard the gospel, but go to a Catholic country tr)
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To: mlo

The gaggle report can be found at http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/04/27/press-gaggle-press-secretary-jay-carney-4272011

The pertinent part is this:

“Q And this is going to sound — I mean, you can just anticipate what people are going to — remain unconvinced. They’re going to say that this is just a photocopy of a piece of paper, you could have typed anything in there. Will the actual certificate be on display or viewable at any — (laughter.)

Q Will the President be holding it?

MR. PFEIFFER: He will not, and I will not leave it here for him to do so. But it will — the State Department of Health in Hawaii will obviously attest that that is a — what they have on file. As Bob said, it’s in a book in Hawaii.

MR. BAUER: And you’ll see the letter from the director of the Health Department that states that she oversaw the copy and is attesting to —

Q But do you understand that this could quiet the conspiracy theorists?

MR. PFEIFFER: There will always be some selection of people who will believe something, and that’s not the issue. The issue is that this is not a discussion that is just happening among conspiracy theorists. It’s happening here in this room; it’s happening on all of the networks. And it’s something that, as I said, every major political figure of both parties who’s actually out trying to talk about real issues is asked about this by the media. And so the President decided to release this. And I’ll leave it to others to decide whether there’s still — there will be some who still have a different — have a conspiracy about this.

Q You’ve got two certified copies, according to this study. You have these physical —

MR. PFEIFFER: Yes. I showed you one. Just one.

Q You showed us a photocopy of one.

MR. PFEIFFER: No, I showed you —

Q Does that have a stamp?

MR. PFEIFFER: It has a seal on it. “

The reporter considered that the photocopy the media members were given was what Pfeiffer “showed” them because whatever Pfeiffer had in his hand was not accessible to them. There’s no way the reporters knew what that document really looked like, or whether it had a seal on it. That’s why Obama’s people made photocopies for the media to look at. But the photocopies the media were given were NOT from a document that had security cross-hatches on it, because the copies had bleed-through from a paper that was behind the paper that was being copied (which wouldn’t happen if what they photocopied was on security paper).


35 posted on 03/04/2012 1:34:36 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Josephat

Seems like WND is the only media outlet that will report the facts/evidence. And most people will never see WND.

I bet Zullo would be THRILLED to talk to any national news reporter about the evidence he’s got in that book, if any were willing to actually report it. I’m sure he’d gladly give that information to the public for free if there were any free outlets that were willing to put it out there for him.


36 posted on 03/04/2012 1:42:47 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: trebb

I work in the entertainment industry. It’s patently obvious some cops actively direct investigations from the get-go with an eye to trading on their status as “lead investigator” or the “the guy who caught ____” by writing books or movies containing PRIVILEGED information, gathered at the behest of the GOVERNMENT.

Everything and anything connected with government — and make no mistake, this is a GOVERNMENT investigation — being for sale is the hallmark of third world crapholes.

Oh, and “do I just hate cops?” Um, do your parents know you’re using their computer while they’re out?


37 posted on 03/04/2012 1:43:17 PM PST by Blue Ink
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To: Blue Ink
I work in the entertainment industry. It’s patently obvious some cops actively direct investigations from the get-go with an eye to trading on their status as “lead investigator” or the “the guy who caught ____” by writing books or movies containing PRIVILEGED information, gathered at the behest of the GOVERNMENT. Everything and anything connected with government — and make no mistake, this is a GOVERNMENT investigation — being for sale is the hallmark of third world crapholes. Oh, and “do I just hate cops?” Um, do your parents know you’re using their computer while they’re out?

Perhaps you didn't follow the story close enough to discover that the investigators were retired LEOs and such and most of the work was volunteered - no taxpayer funds went into it. That should make any reasonable person understand that there's nothing wrong with them telling the story - else it might never all become available to the public.

Let's see about the cop-hating issue. You said, "This goes for every chiseling cop who got a book or movie deal about a serial killer. You’re a public employee and you have access to information only in your capacity as a public employee. You have no right to trade on it."

I can't possibly see how someone might infer that you have something against cops by the "chiseling cop" portion. My parents are both deceased and I'm grown up enough to get by without parental oversight. You, however seem to have a penchant for unbridled childish remarks. The First Amendment applies to fools and wise men alike, so please carry on.

38 posted on 03/04/2012 3:16:03 PM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: mlo
"OK .... so let’s see that unredacted paper Long Form Birth Certificate since it will match the “online” version."

"No problemo, right?"

It was passed around the briefing room the day of the White House press conference. There were photos taken of it. You can see one here:

http://lockerz.com/s/96540937

*******

Because it is now a criminal investigation, can the Arizona sheriff now officially seek to see Obama's long form birth certificate in the Hawaii archives for himself, the one Hawaii officials say is bound in a book with other long form birth certificates?

If the sheriff can gain access to Hawaii archives because he is conducting a criminal investigation, then, at the very least, he would not have to depend on the long form released by the Whited House in April 2011, and he can also compare the one in the Hawaii archives to the one released by President Obama in April 2011.

However, if Hawaii officials play hardball with the sheriff and tell him that there is no way outside of a court order that they will allow him to look at Obama's long form certificate in the archives because of privacy laws even though the sheriff is conducting a criminal investigation, then we can only conclude that Hawaii officials are trying to hide information on that birth certificate that would show that Obama has been lying about his background all this time.

39 posted on 03/04/2012 3:48:30 PM PST by john mirse
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To: SaraJohnson

No, they sell coffee mugs that say “Made in the USA” ... which is probably true. Obama’s forged birth certificate was probably MADE in the U.S. It’s funny that they didn’t say BORN in the USA on the mugs. Evidently Obama needs some plausible deniability.


40 posted on 03/04/2012 7:43:22 PM PST by edge919
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To: neverdem

Hurray!


41 posted on 03/04/2012 7:44:17 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: trebb

“Perhaps you didn’t follow the story close enough to discover that the investigators were retired LEOs and such and most of the work was volunteered - no taxpayer funds went into it.”

Perhaps you didn’t read my post. My assertion is that it doesn’t matter whether the investigator is retired or paid or not — it is a government investigation under the direction of the sheriff and under color of authority, and therefore not to be sold or bartered by public officials. Not ethically, anyway. You offered no logical refutation.

“That should make any reasonable person understand that there’s nothing wrong with them telling the story - else it might never all become available to the public.”

Suppose I produce and write an episode of a TV show. I don’t own the footage. I don’t own the show. But I abscond with the tapes and offer to sell the episode back to the network — my employer. Because I did all the work, after all. Well, that is theft. What this investigator is doing is indefensible. He doesn’t own the product of his investigation. He is defrauding the government and the public.

“Let’s see about the cop-hating issue... I can’t possibly see how someone might infer that you have something against cops by the “chiseling cop” portion.”

Criticism of the cops and calling movie deals what they are — theft of public property, i.e. “chiseling,” does not equal “hate.” There’s not a semantics professor or a juror in the world you can sell that load of goods to.

“You, however seem to have a penchant for unbridled childish remarks.”

Reread your first combative unsubstantiated post. You paid out a childish remark. And now you’re indignant because you got back some change. Waaaaaaaah.


42 posted on 03/04/2012 8:34:27 PM PST by Blue Ink
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