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What’s ailing the Chevy Volt? (They asked so fire away!)
WASHINGTON POST ^ | 3/4/2012 | Brad Plumer

Posted on 03/04/2012 5:24:47 PM PST by tobyhill

On Friday, GM announced it was halting production of the Chevrolet Volt until April, so as to maintain “proper inventory levels.” Sales of the electric vehicle have been disappointing, with the company missing its target of 10,000 Volts sold last year. Why hasn’t the car caught on?

GM executives have said the recent frenzy over a Volt battery fire in crash tests has hurt sales. On the merits, the fires weren’t a huge concern — the Volts only caught fire days or weeks after extreme lab testing, and according to a government investigation they’re no more likely to catch fire than gas-powered automobiles. Still, panicky headlines ensued. Conservatives started denouncing the company (Rush Limbaugh called GM “a corporation that’s trying to kill its customers”). And GM needed to retrofit new vehicles. Add that up, and GM sold only 603 Volts in January, down from 1,520 in December.

But the scare over batteries is only a partial explanation. After all, Volt sales rebounded in February to 1,023 vehicles sold, and it looks like the fire scare is slowly subsiding. But neither the pre-panic nor post-panic numbers were anywhere near the rate needed to meet GM’s goal of 45,000 Volt deliveries this year.

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1 posted on 03/04/2012 5:24:50 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

The “Volt” isn’t a bad idea, it’s just a POS!


2 posted on 03/04/2012 5:28:36 PM PST by WellyP (REAL)
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To: tobyhill

It sucks big time?


3 posted on 03/04/2012 5:28:45 PM PST by elpinta (John 17:3)
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To: tobyhill

Odumbo wants it


4 posted on 03/04/2012 5:28:45 PM PST by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: tobyhill

The ‘Obamamobile’ .... cut a hole in the floor so you can do the ‘Fred Flinstone’ when it runs out of juice & gas is $10/gal.


5 posted on 03/04/2012 5:30:14 PM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: tobyhill

GM asked my company to bid. The CEO told them to pound sand, when GM predicted 40k units sold per year. Our CEO laughed at them and we walked away. We did buy one of the first 500 just to see if any patents were infringed.


6 posted on 03/04/2012 5:31:41 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: MissMagnolia

Flintstone .....


7 posted on 03/04/2012 5:31:52 PM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: tobyhill

Limited range. Long charge time. Diminishing battery strength with each charge. Battery drains faster when heating the cabin in winter and cooling in the summer. High price. Need for a new battery after so many charges. Nowhere to charge up. Limited capacity of load and passengers.

Aside from that, it’s a great idea.


8 posted on 03/04/2012 5:31:55 PM PST by lurk
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To: tobyhill
Overpriced gasoline powered car with accessory battery pack that’ll run you $8,000 every four years. Oh, GM shareholders, you're on the hook for the first replacement battery pack for every Volt, since they have a 5 year warranty.

In California, though, it'll start selling, as it's yet another way to buy your way into the HOV lane.

9 posted on 03/04/2012 5:32:34 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: tobyhill
"The car America HAD to build!" Emperor Hussein I ordered it!
10 posted on 03/04/2012 5:32:57 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: tobyhill

Obama politicized the GM brand when he pulled his takeover stunt. GM was my favorite brand. Now I will never buy another one. I will not condone or vindicate his socialist ideas.


11 posted on 03/04/2012 5:34:07 PM PST by Brownie63
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To: tobyhill

http://lonelyconservative.com/2012/02/ge-switching-fleet-of-company-cars-to-chevy-volts/


12 posted on 03/04/2012 5:34:54 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (KEEP YOUR LEGISLATORS ON SPEED DIAL AND TELL THEM TO GROW SOME)
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To: MissMagnolia
"Yabba dabba doo!"


13 posted on 03/04/2012 5:36:12 PM PST by twister881
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To: tobyhill

The comments below the article at the link are precious.


14 posted on 03/04/2012 5:37:47 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: WellyP
What's wrong with it? Well, most of all it's just nothing new - it's been done before...


15 posted on 03/04/2012 5:38:03 PM PST by C210N
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To: The Sons of Liberty

If anyone runs into Tim Allen tell him thanks for the crappy Volt ad.


16 posted on 03/04/2012 5:38:23 PM PST by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: tobyhill

The fact that electricity isn’t free and doesn’t just come out of a socket in the wall has escaped Obama and his minions. These crappy cars are not any more environmentally friendly than a high mileage mid sized car.


17 posted on 03/04/2012 5:38:51 PM PST by Baynative (Please check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIcZkEzc8I)
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To: tobyhill

The very fact that the “Big O” thinks it’s great should turn people off. What the hell...he has been wrong about absolutely everything else he has ever touched except food stamps.


18 posted on 03/04/2012 5:38:57 PM PST by GoldenPup
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To: tobyhill

...aaah....nobody WANTS it????


19 posted on 03/04/2012 5:39:21 PM PST by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: tobyhill
It couldn't possibly be the styling.

Bwaaaaaaaahahahahahahaaaaaaa!!!

20 posted on 03/04/2012 5:39:37 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: twister881

Back to the stone age .....you betcha!


21 posted on 03/04/2012 5:40:01 PM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: tobyhill

The ingredient that they missed in all this is that most people don’t want to be told what kind of car to drive. I feel like and I sure others feel like that this was crammed down our throats. To hell with Chevy Volts, I will drive what I want to and that is FORD lol.


22 posted on 03/04/2012 5:40:01 PM PST by lwoodham (Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.)
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To: All

a few things.
First, it’s not a car that people want. Second, all the people that want you to drive one, don’t drive one. Third, they use our money to get us to overpay for a car we don’t want, even with the incentive it’s more expensive to drive than a similar gas vehicle. Fourth, the people that want us to drive it and make the government pay us to want to drive it, wouldn’t be caught dead in an American made car.

I believe it’s a good idea that is too expensive and tainted by the hand of the government. As someone who makes two short trips everyday and one or two long trips a week, I would love a coal powered vehicle for the short trips if it was the right price but that pricepoint has not been reached yet and won’t be reached until the car is less than 20k. I hope the American car industry makes it before the Chinese or Indians do because GM and Chrysler might as well just close their doors if that happens.


23 posted on 03/04/2012 5:40:26 PM PST by newnhdad (Soylent green is people..)
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To: tobyhill

OK.

I’ll tell you exactly what is wrong with the Volt:

Two things:

1) It’s stupid looking (yes design matters) and
2) It’s approximately $30,000 too expensive.

Those are both deal breakers for most buyers.


24 posted on 03/04/2012 5:40:59 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: bmwcyle

Can’t stand Tim Allen anyway. Doesn’t surprise me he made an ad for the Volt. He’s made a living out of being from the Detroit area. He hasn’t lived here in years.


25 posted on 03/04/2012 5:41:58 PM PST by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: tobyhill

26 posted on 03/04/2012 5:43:11 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: tobyhill
What’s ailing the Chevy Volt? (They asked so fire away!)

So "FIRE" away .... pun intended(?) LOL!

27 posted on 03/04/2012 5:43:40 PM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: tobyhill
FYI: Why hasn’t the car caught on?
Why? Becasue quite a few of them caught on all right, caught on FIRE!
28 posted on 03/04/2012 5:43:46 PM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Baynative

29 posted on 03/04/2012 5:44:19 PM PST by twister881
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To: tobyhill

Another article summed it up well: One gallon of gas. That’s all you’ll get, after all that charging, a double price car, higher personal property tax, higher insurance, the fires, the screwy battery cooling systems...all that for, at most, 40 miles. And then the mileage after that is not competitive with other compact cars. A very dumb idea.


30 posted on 03/04/2012 5:44:36 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: All
“Introducing the 2012 Chevy Volt electric car. Volt offers the fuel efficiency range based on 94 MPGe (electric); 340-mile range based on 35 MPG city/40 highway (gas).”

The reason people aren't buying this POS is because the EPA, Obama and GM are trying to bamboozle us into thinking no gas is required.

31 posted on 03/04/2012 5:44:55 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: MissMagnolia

32 posted on 03/04/2012 5:45:15 PM PST by twister881
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To: Impala64ssa

FTA not FYI OOPS


33 posted on 03/04/2012 5:46:08 PM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Brownie63

Ditto. If I ever turn in my ‘03 Silverado, built in Canada, it will be for a Ford or Toyota. My wife’s Buick will be replaced by an Infinity sedan. Screw Obama and the UAW.


34 posted on 03/04/2012 5:46:41 PM PST by Dapper 26
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To: MissMagnolia

LOL


35 posted on 03/04/2012 5:47:42 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2011-chevrolet-volt-full-test-road-test

...Here’s what we do know: GM’s recently revised electric-range claim is 25 to 50 miles, and we ended up in the low to middle of that band. Getting on the nearest highway and commuting with the 80-mph flow of traffic—basically the worst-case scenario—yielded 26 miles; a fairly spirited back-road loop netted 31; and a carefully modulated cruise below 60 mph pushed the figure into the upper 30s...

...We averaged 35 mpg for our gas-powered miles and saw 33–34 mpg at a steady, near-80-mph cruise—not exactly spectacular compared with today’s hybrids...


36 posted on 03/04/2012 5:49:43 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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37 posted on 03/04/2012 5:50:20 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: tobyhill

Let’s see, it was billed as an all electric when they announced it, lied about it’s electric only rasnge, lied about the MPG it gets, and lied about the sales numbers..
Remember that it was claimed to get 240 miles to the galon?
If they have to lie about it, it isn’t worth my notice.
Nor is it worth my taxdollars.
There are gas engined vehicles that have better range and performance miles to gallon wise than this turkey.
It’s a hybrid that isn’t as good at being a hybrid as other hybrids.


38 posted on 03/04/2012 5:51:43 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: tobyhill
Rather than GM asking what kind of auto WE consumers want, it was a car designed by Obama Central Planning to sell us a car that THEY want us to have, and the result is a "car" that I would pay money NOT to own.

Not only do I not like the range, the batteries, and the alleged engine; I choose to resist any car design that is forced onto the market by non-car-people who think that I don't know what car I should buy.

As an aside, I happen to need a new car. I choose to make my current one last until we have a GOP president. I don't want any new debt in a socialist regime.

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39 posted on 03/04/2012 5:54:35 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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40 posted on 03/04/2012 5:54:40 PM PST by twister881
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To: Brownie63

The Chevy in my driveway is the last Chevy on the premises.... go pound sand ZERO....


41 posted on 03/04/2012 5:55:27 PM PST by ptsal (E)
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To: twister881

Pretty much!

Saw one in my area a month or so back.
Driven by a “teen or twenty something” looking lady, yapping on a cellphone.
She near drove into me head on.


42 posted on 03/04/2012 5:56:16 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: lurk

Don’t forget, when the battery is exhausted at 30 miles, you can switch to the ICE. It’s a plug-in hybrid.

So you have the privilege of paying for two powerplants in the car: the batteries + electric motor and the ICE. Might be easier to tow a spare car around town.


43 posted on 03/04/2012 5:56:33 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: tobyhill
... the Volts only caught fire days or weeks after extreme lab testing ...

Huh? Was that guy's house that burned down an "extreme lab?"

44 posted on 03/04/2012 5:58:19 PM PST by Cyber Liberty ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." --Winston Churchill)
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To: tobyhill
Look dumb asses no one wants a car that can go only 40 miles then need 8 hours to refuel...and pay a premium for it
45 posted on 03/04/2012 6:04:25 PM PST by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: tobyhill

I’ve been been so detrameanend. twas horrirribble.


46 posted on 03/04/2012 6:04:56 PM PST by allmost
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To: MissMagnolia

Best line I’ve seen so far was the one congratulating GM for inventing the external combustion engine.


47 posted on 03/04/2012 6:06:33 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: tobyhill
The energy contained in all of the Volt's batteries equals about 1 GALLON of gasoline. Pound for pound, hydrocarbon fuels contain much more energy than any current battery technology. The trick is to extract as much energy out of a pound of fuel as the state of the art will allow. The closest technology we have that will work is fuel cells. Hydrocarbons are a storage medium of energy, basically stored sunshine. Chemical to electrical to torque at the wheels with the least loses during the conversion process will win. This is an engineering exercise clouded by political and financial interests. The solution to any engineering exercise is to attack the problem from all angles.
48 posted on 03/04/2012 6:07:35 PM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: tobyhill

Volt’s problem is price.

Prius is proved by over 1 million sales, at much lower cost.


49 posted on 03/04/2012 6:08:11 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker

nICE LIKE


50 posted on 03/04/2012 6:11:01 PM PST by allmost
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