Posted on 03/04/2012 8:35:15 PM PST by lilyfreeper
Georgia: Gingrich 47, Romney 24, Santorum 19, Paul 8. Looks like some chance Newt could even hit 50...
Irrelevant (for now) but interesting: GA if Newt wasn't in race is Romney 38, Santorum 37. Mitt may do better in South than expected.
Santorum definitely the loser in tonight's 3 polls. Good news for both Romney (in OH and TN) and Gingrich (in TN and GA)
I love the South.
What’s wrong with California, Mass, New York etc?
If your in OH and a Conservative you need to vote Santorum. If your in GA and a Conservative you need to vote Newt.
I love the South. That is I hope they go for Newt as Georgia has.
What’s wrong with California, Mass, New York etc?
Newt can’t get 50 percent in his state he represented for 20 years.....snickers. I love it. lilyfreeper your all over Santorum threads bashing him all day long. Well here you go. Newt is not even going to get 1/2 the delegates in Georgia because they know him best. This is working out even better than I imagined. Go Santorum!!!!!
Any idea where I can see the full report? I clicked on the link and it just goes to Twitter, which for me went nowhere.
Haha nice try! Everything’s trending Newt! Santorum’s sinking like a rock. The ABR support bubble he built after he helped Romney take Newt down in Florida has burst!
Bingo!
I am disgusted and bemused by the vitriol between the supporters of the two men here. I support Newt and would be glad to list all the reasons I think he is preferable to Santorum. BUT in the end I could gladly support Rick, and wish supporters of BOTH candidates would reserve their vitriol for Romney.
Hank
I’ve seen the anti-Santorum ads and have read somewhere here about his voting record so I have to ask - what has he actually done that we should vote for him as a conservative? I don’t mean what he’s said....that doesn’t matter to me - what has he done?
We know Newt’s record, we know Romney’s record...they’ve both run big organizations and have a track record - like it or not.
I really disliked the Obama hysteria over Obama’s supposed eloquence and historic quality - and look what we ended up with. I don’t think getting hysterical over Santorum because he looks and sounds good is all that much different.
Based on those numbers across all CD’s. Which want happen but for the math of what could possibly happen
Then
Newt gets 52 Delegates
Mittens gets 24 Delegates
Santorum gets 0 Delegates
Best thing would be for Santorum to throw his supports to Newt so Mittens get fewer delegates.
napscoordinator, you strike me as the kind of guy who has just a little bit too much trouble figuring things out. Read the tweets:
“Newt at 53% with those who have already voted in Georgia (16% of electorate)”
http://twitter.com/#!/ppppolls/status/176522575374065664
And the top line number is 47, which indicates significant upward momentum for Gingrich, who polled in the low 40’s and high 30’s a few days ago. So there’s eery indication that Gingrich will surpass 50% in his home state.
Now, Santorum’s home state is Pennsylvania. That’s where people know him best. And what did PA voters do the that last time around? They booted Santorum from office by a 18 POINT MARGIN, the BIGGEST IN PA HISTORY.
Guess those PA voters they know a whiny sweater-vested little dweeb when they see one.
Wait, I thought Georgia was a winner take all state. Newt should get all the delegates, yes?
No. Santorum will win TN, OK, and Ohio. Newt will win Georgia and that is it. He should be able to get 50 percent so he can get those important Winner Takes All delegates but he is not strong enough in Georgia to even win that. Romney will win Mass and Vermont. Newt has not won a state since January 21! Can you believe how weak he is. He has been fourth place for a month now. Washington he was dead last even paul beat him.
Best thing would be for Santorum to throw his supports to Newt so Mittens get fewer delegates.
Just GA.
Can’t compare. In April when Pennsylvania votes we will see. Georgia is going to gave Newt his second win out of 23 states. Newt is running out of states with all his fourth place spots he has racked up. Only 27 states left. Newt is in trouble.
Santorum supporters are running on wishful thinking!
GA is NOT a winner take all. Unless only 1 candidate exceeds 20% of the votes
Yes, Santorum is terrible.
Santorum couldn’t get reelected in his home state; missed by 19%.
Even good news for Newt, they squabble it's importance. Santos needs to go. For months, he has caused this division. If we end up with Mitt, I blame him.
Santorum is an affirmative action candidate. He was the least qualified candidate in the field but managed to fly under the radar. When all the other more viable candidates dropped out, he sometime became a frontrunner. It is insane.
“No. Santorum will win TN, OK, and Ohio. Newt will win Georgia and that is it. He should be able to get 50 percent so he can get those important Winner Takes All delegates but he is not strong enough in Georgia to even win that. Romney will win Mass and Vermont. Newt has not won a state since January 21! Can you believe how weak he is. He has been fourth place for a month now. Washington he was dead last even paul beat him.”
Pretty neat how you can see the future like that.
Santorum couldnt get reelected in his home state; missed by 19%.
You are a liar. He did get reelected in his home state. So much for you knowing all about Santorum. Do research before you get back to me.
Santorum built an ABR bubble of support when he helped Romney take Newt out in Florida. The bubble is bursting.
Where other than Georgia?
If he is such a terrible candidate why does Rasmussen have him closer to Obama than Romney or Gingrich in its daily poll?
Newt in winning big, populous states with hard delegates, and he’s also beating Santorum in the actual vote count:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/republican_vote_count.html
Santorum’s only wins since Iowa was a trifecta of caucuses in February that no one else even competed in, in which comparatively few people even participated. And those wins will turn out to be worthless, because they were beauty contests, with the delegates to be decided later by state conventions.
And those beauty contest wins got Santorum zero momentum - as he went on the lose to Romney in MI & AZ. If you look at the polls, sweater-boy is also on track to lose in TN and OH.
Newt will win in GA, the most delegate-rich state at stake on Super-Tuesday. He already getting over 50% of the vote, and will do so in the final count. This despite a million spent by Romney, and a lot of effort & visits to GA by Santorum. Newt is also surging in Tennessee.
The state on Tuesday where Santorum has the best shot to win is Oklahoma, getting maybe 30 of that state’s 43 delegates. That’s not nothing, but overall it will be a bad day for Santorum.
Santorum is losing support everywhere. He could not even beat Ron Paul in Washington!
Georgia is not WTA for the at-large delegates, except for the three party leader delegates, unless only one candidate is above 20%, but if a candidate gets more than 50% in a CD, they get all three delegates allocated to the CD.
He is freepers/tea-partier’s affirmative action candidate. When a candidate has a ‘true conservative’ label, these voters will just ignore all other qualifications. This is crazy, no different than liberals!
It is not necessarily knowing the future but finally early voting is going to help Santorum. He has Tennessee in the bag because he is big time ahead with early voting. Georgia doesn’t take much to know that Newt will win. Mass and Vermont are Romney areas so it would be a jaw dropping if he lost there. Oklahoma have the same early voting which Santorum has a big lead so that is pretty easy. Ohio is a bit of a mystery but Santorum will probably win by a squeaker. It was not too difficult to figure out. Alaska to me is 100 percent difficult to guess.
Look at the graph of the Gallup poll.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/election.aspx
Santorum is dropping like a rock - he lost 14 points in the last 12 days. In the same period, Newt gained 4 points. The two candidates are now just 5 points apart, 22 v. 17, and as the trend continues Newt will surpass Santorum this week.
In 2006 Santorum gave his all hoping that the voters would keep him as their Senator, but they had seen enough, they dumped him by a record breaking 18 points.
Early voting in OK is only the Friday, Saturday and Monday before an election, whereas in Tennessee it runs from 20 days before the election to 5 days before the election, so it’s never really very much (if any) in OK, whereas it’s always quite substantial in TN.
I was a Pennsylvania resident at that time, but that is not what the other FREEPER said. They said that he was not reelected to the state which is a big fat lie.
Santorum used to be so liberal, and of course pro-abortion, that might be seeping out to some voters.
A past where he is anti-Reagan and supports pro-abortion fanatic, Arlen Specter for President, can turn off some primary voters when they learn about it.
You are closer to being a liar than the other poster. He posted this “”Santorum couldnt get reelected in his home state; missed by 19%.””.
We all know that means the 2006 reelection race, and you knew it also, you pretended differently to fake outrage and to make a dishonest claim that he was a liar.
Santorum was a record breaking loser of a Senate candidate for reelection.
Excited for Tuesday! Things are trending Newt! Should pick up lots of delegates in the run up to big wins in Alabama and Mississippi on the 13th.
Thanks for the great comments earlier.
Unfortunately for Newt, Georgia doesn’t have a statewide “winner take all” for 50%; all statewide delegates are given proportionally to candidates beating 20%.
So, believe it or not, if 2% of the Gingrich folks voted for Santorum instead, it would cost Gingrich 1 delegate, but get Santorum a bunch, and cost Romney a bunch. Gingrich taking votes away from Santorum at this point pushes Romney closer to winning the nomination.
Now, in each district, 50% gets all 3 delegates, otherwise they are split 2/1. When Santorum was in 2nd, it made no difference, but with Romney in 2nd, we need Newt to get 50% to keep Romney from getting those delegates.
My guess is Romney is going to end up with more delegates in Tennessee, Ohio, and Georgia than was predicted a week ago. Gingrich might also end up with more, but Gingrich/Santorum together will get less than they were getting before.
This is considered a “good thing” by some, but to me it looks like we are pushing Romney to the nomination.
You too!
I don’t no where this false attack came up that Santorum somehow “helped” Romney in florida. Santorum didn’t run a single ad in Florida. He left the state before the election. Gingrich lost Florida, in the same way Santorum lost Michigan.
Meanwhile, contrary to your assertion, Ohio is trending Romney, and while Tennessee may be inching toward Newt, it doesn’t look like it’s enough to do any more than earn Romney more delegates.
Still, it will be an interesting two days — Romney’s done a good job again taking down the frontrunner, and Gingrich doesn’t seem to be taking votes from Romney.
It would be great if Gingrich could win Tennessee, Oklahoma, and Ohio. My prediction is he won’t win any of them, and he will come in 3rd in at least one of them.
Or Gingrich to throw a few percent to Santorum, to get him over 20% statewide which would take a half-dozen delegates from Romney.
Too hard to play those games in a state with delegate assignment liek Georgia. You have to know the district percentages.
I believe we’ve only had 13 states so far, not 23. 8 states tuesday, so we’ll be around 21.
The PPP poll actually shows SAntorum holding steady the past few days — Landmark had him at 16% on March 1st, and his average has been around 20 or so.
He left the state the night before the vote after piling on with Romney for over a week.
Ditto!!!
>> es: Santorum couldnt get reelected in his home state; missed by 19%.
>> nc: You are a liar. He did get reelected in his home state.
Not is not never. editor-surveyor is correct, as are you excluding the accusation about lying.
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