Skip to comments.Georgetown Student: Rush is Right
Posted on 03/05/2012 7:10:50 PM PST by Kaslin
(Georgetown,DC) - Am I the only one at Georgetown who is not upset with Rush right now?
His comments regarding Sandra Fluke, third year Law student at Georgetown University, are less outrageous when viewed in the real context of the debate on Obama’s mandate for religious institutions to include contraceptive coverage in their healthcare plans.
Fluke, in her own testimony before a Democratic panel, pointed out that the University covered birth control pills when used for the treatment of a medical condition. This is the key to understanding Limbaugh’s comments. When used for medicinal purposes and healthcare, Georgetown has no problem covering the expense of birth control under their insurance plan. Fluke’s complaint was based on the fact that it was not covered for the use as a contraceptive, which would violate the Catholic church’s beliefs.
Limbaugh’s statements were not that much of a stretch. He might have been a tad hyperbolic in making his point, but this is how he earns a living. Whether or not you agree with the way he phrased his argument, he may have a point.
Of course, no one wants to actually talk about that aspect of the issue. They would rather make this an unneeded debate about contraception rather than admit this is about religious liberty.
Limbaugh, in his attempt to focus the debate back on the actual issue at hand, has been demonized by...well, just about everybody.
President Obama went so far as to call Fluke and offer his support. Meanwhile, DC residents are paying almost $5 a gallon for gasoline. Good thing he has his priorities straight.
There have been calls from all levels of Democrats, including former Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), for all Republicans to condemn Limbaugh’s comments. Congresswoman Louise Slaughter (D- NY) wrote a letter to Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) saying, “the Republicans have a special obligation to condemn the atrocious and hurtful words spoken by Mr. Limbaugh.”
Apparently, now everyone has to actively seek out and apologize for comments other people make, regardless of whether or not they agree with them, if the offender shares a similar ideology. Where does this line of reasoning take us? Should all Baptists have to make public statements that they do not agree with the actions of Westboro Baptist Church?
That would be ridiculous. Just like the outrage over Limbaugh’s criticism of Fluke. I might be in the minority on my campus, but I agree with Rush.
Post by Spring 2012 Townhall.com intern Mallory Carr
And that would be if the Westburros actually did buy into mainstream Baptist doctrine which they don’t! They are some weird kind of pretenders to Old Testament prophethood, if not an out and out scam for money. The New Testament means little or nothing to the Burros.
Are you aware that the word fluke also means parasite?
This is the first I’ve heard that Fluke’s testimony admitted that G-town would cover pills for medical reasons (ovarian cysts, etc). I heard that she claimed one of her friends lost an ovary because G-town refused to cover the pill even when her doctor told her she needed it.
Suppose I better go find the actual testimony.
Nancy Pelosis initiative to convince Sandra Fluke to testify to the principle of contraception as a health care necessity is simply wrong. Colleges and universities provide accidental injury/major medical and not traditional employee health insurance to students. Since students are generally young and not subject to the myriad diseases confronting older people or families with children, the coverage is limited. Not only contraceptives, but many medical procedures and drugs are not included. Since sexual intercourse is an optional, and not a required activity of law school students, contraceptives should not be among policy provisions.
Ms. Fluke testified that 40% of the women in law school considered sexual intercourse a compelling or preferred recreational activity. Therefore, the proper place to make her case is with the Georgetown University Student Association. The university encourages students to actively engage in more than 200 co-curricular clubs and activities. She testified to what would be more accurately described as a club sport or performing art, than as a health care necessity.
The analogy should not be considered facetious, but should awaken people to the limits of targeted, low cost insurance programs.
And that would be if the Westburros actually did buy into mainstream Baptist doctrine which they dont! They are some weird kind of pretenders to Old Testament prophethood, if not an out and out scam for money. The New Testament means little or nothing to the Burros.
I am convinced they are left-wing trolls out to make Christianity look bad. Hell, Phelps supported GORE.
To the democrats and news media: Go straight to hell! The only reason to be upset with Rush is that he made any kind of apology. It’s time to stop making apologies when there is no reason. It’s time to go to same depths as the liberals in attacking our opposition.
She’s certainly a tramp Or a “woman of easy virtue” as my mother used to say) but Rush *was* wrong to call her a prostitute.Orostitutes *charge* for their services,this tramp gives it up for free.
She’s certainly a tramp (or a “woman of easy virtue” as my mother used to say) but Rush *was* wrong to call her a prostitute.Orostitutes *charge* for their services,this tramp gives it up for free.
The way this woman insists on the pronunciation of her last name sounds a lot like the German word ‘’flucht’ which I believe, now I could very well be wrong, but I think it means f**k’’. If it does it certainly fits.
Gee, you mean she might have lied for dramatic effect. No, say it isn't so.
When. Where? You've posted this more than once today and each time I ask the same question, because that liberal activist Fluke did not say that to the Democrats in her presentation. If she said this, then I want to know when and where so I can use it when I talk with liberals. If she didn't and you are either making this up or are clueless, then It does not help this situation.
Some women have to take BCPs for medical reasons, irregular periods being a common reason. The BCPs keep estrogen and progesterone levels moderated and; thereby, promote menstrual regularity. I haven’t really commented on this issue until now but I think it should be mentioned that BCPs aren’t just for sluts who don’t want to get pregnant. Perhaps we should enter battle a little more thoughtfully in the future.
I expect those condemnations will be "coming down the pike" right after the Democrats call for all Democrats to condemn the untold nasty slurs and pejorative comments aimed at Republicans and conservatives by Bill Maher, Barney Frank, Hairy Reid, Chuck Schumer, Obama, any number of Hollyweird lefties, etc., etc., etc.
Yep, any ole day now. . . . .
It's a-comin'. . . . . .
Just you wait . . . . . .
THis link has some arguments: http://www.hollywoodrepublican.net/2012/03/sandra-fluke-and-the-womens-health-canard/
I think about this and remember an old saying: “I don’t drink, and I don’t chew. And I don’t go with the ones that do.”
I also remember a time when people preferred not to have sex prior to marriage.
but she insists that SOMEONE ELSE should pay for her contraception, thereby facilitating the activity.
They work for a living and PAY FOR THEIR OWN CONTRACEPTIVES!
Flucht means flight as in fleeing. To pronounce the ch sound pretend you have something in your throat and try to get it out. At least that is the best way I can explain it
Most women experience an irregular period at least once in their life. For the majority it is a common occurrence that happens due to stress, weight loss, fatigue and other difficult situations that cause irregular periods but many different types of birth control such as oral medication can also affect the irregularity of a period.
Women who use estrogen-containing birth control pills are at a 3- to 6-fold increased risk of developing blood clots. Blood clots may lead to deep vein thrombosis, heart attack, or stroke.
Ok. Got it. As I said I wasn’t sure. Maybe it was ‘’flick’’.
She also testified that a woman at Georgetown who was raped refused medical care because she "thought" that it might not be covered and she would be responsible for the bill.
I was disgusted by what I saw of her testimony because she changed the subject from contraceptives to all sorts of actual medical issues. As to the ovarian cysts. How did they treat them before birth control pills? IS this possibly the only medicinal approach?
I check out progressive radio to hear the other side of most arguments when I can. Today, Randi Rhodes said that at Georgetown, students must participate in the insurance program and it does not cover contraceptives. However, the same insurance program used by G'town employees does cover their contraception. If this is true, I think it changes the debate changes a bit. It seems to alter the veracity of G'town resisting the Obama proposal on religious grounds.
As with any news that is being filtered by two opposing sides of media, we probably don't know all the facts. But, on thing is for sure. Obama has snared a monster slice of women's vote with this hyped up story and Rush may have played a part in their success. It fits the Alinsky rule perfectly. They have found a demon.
Well, well well, isn’t that fitting for her?
"Flucht" in German means "flight," as in fleeing, not aviation. The word for someone who flees--a refugee--is "der Flüchtling." As for the vulgarism, the German word, the infinitive form of which rhymes with "chicken," is spelled similarly to the English word.
Secondly, she is a long time activist and has a “gender studies” degree. This whole thing has been phony and pretty pathetically choreographed from the start. Totally demonrat produced.
((’Today, Randi Rhodes said that at Georgetown, students must participate in the insurance program and it does not cover contraceptives. ‘))
Georgetown students are automatically enrolled in their health insurance - there is an easy way to waive it - show proof that you have comparable insurance from another source and the fee is waived.
It’s a healthcare mandate - like RomneyCare and ObamaCare - you can’t opt out of carrying health insurance as a student but you CAN opt out of the Georgetown insurance.
Thanks. “Flight’’ as in aviation is fleiger’’ isn’t it? Or is that ‘’flier’’? I studied French in high school(hated it!), I wanted to take German. Don’t know why I didn’t, always felt English is closer to German than any of the romance languages. ‘’Hand’’ in German is ‘’hande’’ in Latin it’s’’ mano’’, in French it’s ‘’main’’.
It wasn’t testimony. It was a taped press conference. She did not address Congress in person.
There was no cross-examination of the multi-year activist (who may or may not be a lesbian herself).
..............................She also testified that a woman at Georgetown who was raped refused medical care because she “thought” that it might not be covered and she would be responsible for the bill......................
Yeah, much better to be raped and dodge a check-up for STD’s or pregnancy and save $150, than to carry an HIV infected baby in your body.
Stupid is what stupid does! And they’re post graduate law students?????
Overweight women are prone to irregular menstrual bleeding and BCPs straighten that out. It is true that BCPs, like most drugs, come with side effects. I remember a 30 year old woman who had a stroke while taking BCPs. She smoked too as I recall which further increases the risk. Then there’s the psychological side effects which can be quite miserable for the woman (and anyone else that happens to be around her). It is my opinion that if a doctor prescribes BCPs for legitimate medical reasons, it should be treated like any other medicine. I also think a study should be done to see if taking BCPs for actual birth control puts a woman at risk for contracting and then spreading STDs like HIV, Herpes, etc. I would bet money that any serious unbiased research would show that BCPs are, in fact, responsible for an increased incidence of STD transmission (especially in younger populations) due to the perceived lack of need for a condom. If that is the case, and I believe it is, BCPs should be treated more like cigarettes than medicine (when used for birth control at least). It’s a complicated issue but my bottom line argument is that, with regard to billing, it should be treated like a medicine if it’s being used as a medicine and we should make that distinction before we start calling women sluts.
Here’s a special example of it:
Congresswoman Louise Slaughter (D- NY) and President Obama should apologize for the mysogynistic slurs of the hiphop artists that have been invited to the White House before they demand any apology from any else.
Well, they are lawyers.
I suspect that it’s also possible that Ms. Fluke’s family name is derived (anglicized) from the German name Pflug (meaning plow in English). The first step in anglicizing Pflug could have been a typical spelling change to Flug. And it could have evolved further in subsequent generations.
Incidentally, the German word for "hand" is "die Hand" and the plural is "die Hände, as in "Hände hoch!" ("stick 'em up!" or "reach for the sky!"--literally "hands high").
Getting back to the celebrity of the day, the German word "Fluch" means "curse." In Dutch, the word is "vloek," which is pronounced "fluke."
What about G’town covering contraceptives for ee’s but not students? Any insight?
I see. ‘’P’ in German is silent? “Pffeffer’’(sp) is ‘’sugar’’ right?
No she doesn’t.
Her “john” is the public. She demands the public pay for her “services”.
Brings new meaning to the term John Q. Public.
Perhaps you should read the insurance policy offered to Georgetown students. Medicinal use of BC pills is covered. Ms. Fluke says her lesbian friend with PCOS was denied coverage for the pills and lost an ovary after suffering a ruptured ovarian cyst. Where is the lawsuit?
I see. It seems to me German is a language that has many words either to describe one thing depending on the context or situation. Now ‘’fluch’’ is ‘’curse’’ and “Hexen’’is ‘’witch’’, right? Ergo in English to put the ‘’hex’’ on somebody is to ‘’curse’’ them? Also it seems German doesn’t use the Latin prefix ‘’anti-’’ but instead it use’s the word ‘’abwehr’’ or ‘’against’’. So ‘’anti-aircraft’’ become ‘’fliegerabwehrkannone’’ or ‘’flying against cannon’’?
why would I want to read the insurance policy offered to Georgetown student? That sounds like one of the last things I’d care to read.
Because then you would know that Georgetown covers medicinal BC.
as they should.
What about Liberal Swine Bill Maher’s comments?? Where’s the outrage?
"Abwehr" means "defense"--literally "fending off." "Fliegerabwehrkanone" literally means "aviator-fend-off-gun."
The Germans sometimes use the Latin/Greek/Syrian prefix "anti" (meaning "facing"), as in "Antialkoholiker" ("anti-alcohol activist" or "prohibitionist").
Fräulein Fluke ist eine Hexe. Sie hat einen Fluch auf uns gesetzt
Some. But John Rock, the inventer of the pill, make it perfectly clear what its main purpose is.
While Rush's comments may have been bad form, she is a law student...
Amateur now, but showing intent to go pro...
Wow. A complex language! It would appear to me then that as in the Romance languages the ‘’a’’ prefix denotes some kind of action in German? Like ‘’abstand(en)’’, stand back’’, ‘’antwort’’, ‘’answer’, ‘angriff’’, ‘’attack’’ and so on?