Skip to comments.New Navy rules take aim at alcohol abuse, smoking (Breathalyzers on ships)
Posted on 03/05/2012 8:49:32 PM PST by same old song
The Navy will take a more aggressive approach to curbing alcohol and drug abuse and continue moving toward a smoke-free force under initiatives announced this afternoon by Navy Secretary Ray Mabus.
In response to concerns about alcohol abuse, particularly among younger sailors and Marines, the department this year will install Breathalyzers on every ship so that crew members coming aboard to work will be tested. Crew members already on board will be randomly tested.
If a sailor is found to be intoxicated, he or she will be subject to counseling and treatment but not formal reprimand or punishment. The machines are intended to help detect problems that can be addressed before alcohol abuse causes a serious career-ending problem.
The department also is beginning a new alcohol education program. Particular attention will be given to younger service members who, Navy officials believe, may misunderstand how long alcohol remains in a persons system.
The Marines are expected to introduce the Breathalyzers to some units during the year.
The readiness effort also includes stronger discouragements of tobacco use among sailors and Marines. The department is ending the subsidy of cigarettes and other tobacco products sold at base commissaries and exchanges. The Navy is also making available smoking cessation materials to all personnel at no cost.
Navy officials believe that smoking contributes to poor health among active-duty sailors and retirees. They contend that cracking down on the behavior can reduce time lost to sickness and reduce health care expenses.
The new initiatives also include programs to address sexual assault and to begin random testing for spice, an illegal synthetic drug that mimics marijuana.
Mabus remarks, made at Norfolk Naval Station aboard the Bataan, an amphibious assault ship, were broadcast worldwide through military television and web sites during a special all hands call.
Navy officials said that the new effort is intended to build resiliency and to hone the most combat effective force in the history of the Department of Navy.
What about other intoxicants? Lots have no easy tests, requiring blood samples and complex labwork.
All this while welcoming the AIDS crowd aboard. It’s a crazy Navy Charlie Brown.
So, the USA wants to have no human beings in the Navy.
Zero tolerance in a 100% volunteer service.
I guess Secnav can’t do the math.
This country was built by hard-smoking, hard-drinking men. Where are they now?
wasn’t Mabus the same clown who approved the USS Giffords?
What a f**ed up world we live in, now.
Just another example of libs trying to use the military as a lab for the quixotic theories of sociologists.
Since they’re less free by design, the military is a natural mine canary signalling for what Our Betters have planned for the rest of us.
The higher health payments required of military people —oh I’m SURE they wouldn’t do that to US, you know...?!
Most mouthwashes are 40 proof. So brush your teeth, rinse with Listerine and get tagged as an alcoholic. What a great way to start a new day!
However, I fear this is about catching the hangovers at quarters in the morning.
THAT will put a lot of sailors in the cross hairs.
Given a vote, I’d vote for a Naval force more hardened for battle rather than a force more regulated against enjoyment.
But smoking poles is now officialy “Okey-Dokey.”
And packing fudge is OK too, so long as there’s no actual “cane sugar” involved.
You don't drink.
You don't smoke.
What in hell do you do?
Considering the current policies at least a foxhole might be safer than dropping the soap in the shower!
When I was in, drinking was a command sanctioned sport.
There are non-alcoholic mouthwashes aplenty.
Subtle innuendos follow/there must be something inside
What about those homosexuals who snort poppers?
On that thread we react favorably to the federal government intruding in the private lives about what we are permitted to ingest and not ingest on pain of criminal sanctions. It does so without constitutional warrant.
Here, we are dealing in an area in which the federal government has and should have extreme sweeping power over the private lives of its sailors to maintain combat effectiveness and yet in this area we have resistance from FReepers. Here the federal government is fully authorized by the Constitution to act but it has refrained from imposing criminal sanctions.
If we are conservatives, it seems to me we ought to judge matters first on their constitutionality and then on whether we like the policy rather than determining constitutionality by whether we like the policy.
Uh....one of the first things we loaded onto my ship during our initial outfit....was hundreds of cases of Budweiser. It surprised me a bit at first, but...it didn’t go to waste. :)
I was under the impression they had done this years ago when I was still active duty. I used to smoke Japanese cigarettes when I was stationed in Japan-they were cheaper than smokes on base. Sea stores are long gone. And I know the smoking cessation stuff was available. I was going to go through a program and then ended up quitting cold turkey on my own.
The alcohol crackdown doesn't surprise me a bit-it's all part of the "intrusive leadership" initiative. All I can say is that I'm glad I'm not in anymore. At the end of this month I officially go on the retired list. They won't even be able to recall me anymore.
Oops, wrong navy...
You, sir, 'get it'.
The liberals now in charge of our military are truly nuts!
I served aboard a CVA and cigarettes were $1 a carton, although we had ration cards that only allowed two cartons every two weeks (paydays). .....When in the Med, our V-2 division CMDR arranged a day off for us when we were on “holiday routine”. Liberty boats took us to a small island nearby, along with food and cases of beer. We played baseball, ate, smoked and drank a lot of beer, while getting sunburned because we didn’t wear our shirts.
During all my time aboard ship, I don’t recall smoking or drinking causing anyone to have to go to sick bay.
The Navy has always forbade alcohol on ships. And, has always busted sailors that showed up for duty after drinking.
That’s BS. I served on a CVA and there were LOADS of beer and liquor.
A V-2 Division party on an island in the Med requistioned many cases of beer from ship stores.
We once had to pull out of Mayport with a skeleton crew to plow right through Hurricane Donna. The officers’ quarters just below deck and forward were flooded because of the high waves. During clean up, the enlisted men were able to “salvage” a lot of bottles and even cases of hooch.
Or those that maintain BAL of an unacceptable amount.
Back in my days on the Connie, you'd see the occasional flask. Sometimes you could catch a whiff of pot around a catwalk between flight ops. Only saw two guys get the boot though. Both for repeatedly getting so drunk they were still smashed the following day.
Ray Mabus is the kook who used to be governor of Mississippi. He is an Obama arse licker.
After you’ve looked the other way to fill the ranks with convicted felons to kill Arabs, I guess now that we don’t need them anymore we’re back to “raising the bar”...
Mostly dead From Cirrohsis and lung Cancer.
What shall we do with a drunken sailor,
What shall we do with a drunken sailor,
What shall we do with a drunken sailor,
Early in the morning?
Put/chuck him in the long boat till he’s sober.
Put him in the long-boat and make him bale her.
What shall we do with a drunken soldier?
Put/lock him in the guard room ‘til he gets sober.
Put him in the scuppers with a hose-pipe on him.
Pull out the plug and wet him all over
Tie him to the taffrail when she’s yardarm under
Heave him by the leg in a runnin’ bowline.
Scrape the hair off his chest with a hoop-iron razor.
Give ‘im a dose of salt and water.
Stick on his back a mustard plaster.
Keep him there and make ‘im bale ‘er.
Give ‘im a taste of the bosun’s rope-end.
What’ll we do with a Limejuice skipper?
Soak him in oil till he sprouts a flipper.
What shall we do with the Queen o’ Sheba?
What shall we do with the Virgin Mary?
“This country was built by hard-smoking, hard-drinking men. Where are they now?”
Those left in the military are trying to avoid the fudge-packers Obama has set loose - with the approval of most of the US population.
That response was supposed to have been on private reply. I have requested that the moderatoe remove it.
Hard to put that tooth paste back in the tube,huh? :)
Don’t you know it! The risks one takes when posting when half awake.
I’m glad I retired 10 years ago. I wouldn’t last 6 months in today’s navy.
Yeah, then ya realize 300K people are looking at it and you want to find a hole to crawl in. Yep, I think a lot of us have been there. YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ADMIN!!! :)
My father used to sing me to sleep to that song.