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Gingrich must endorse Santorum
http://www.freerepublic.com ^ | 6 March 2012 | impimp

Posted on 03/06/2012 6:59:02 PM PST by impimp

I have advocated Gingrich staying in until sometime in March. I felt the vote splitting would help prevent Romney from locking up a sufficient number of bound delegates to take the nomination. The plan did a good job so far, but not a great job.

I think now the mathematics is shifting such that Gingrich needs to bow out. The reasons for the shift are:

1. winner-take-alls coming up soon - vote splitting begins to really hurt us in these primaries 2. we need money consolidating behind Santorum. 3. Santorum made the Indiana ballot after all

But now Gingrich needs to bow out.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chat; chitchat; gingrich; kenyanbornmuzzie; mittromney; newtgingrich; personal; ricksantorum; santorum; vanity
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To: adm5

That pales when compared to Santorum trying to remove the pro-life plank from the republican party platform and supporting Mitt Romney.

Gingrich was leading a conservative revolution while Santorum was fighting it.


101 posted on 03/06/2012 7:44:58 PM PST by ansel12 (Santorum-Catholic and "I was basically pro-choice all my life, until I ran for Congress" he said))
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To: impimp

100% correct. Folks need to wake up.


102 posted on 03/06/2012 7:45:08 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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To: RitaOK; onyx; TitansAFC; b9; Gator113; Marcella; katiedidit1; annieokie; true believer forever; ...

On Fox, Sarah Palin just said she voted for NEWT GINGRICH in Alaska


103 posted on 03/06/2012 7:45:38 PM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: RFEngineer

I think freeper threads where the two sides yell that the other side’s candidate has to quit are kind of funny.

But you are right about one thing, it is hard to see how Newt goes from a string of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th-place finishes to winning the nomination and being able to destroy Obama in the fall.

Even here, he maintains his strong showing in threads in part because of the site supports Newt; as nasty as the two sides are sometimes, when Santorum supporters go over the edge, they don’t last long.

Hopefully, that won’t give people the wrong impression that Santorum support is dropping.

This was Super Tuesday. This was when Santorum was supposed to collapse, burn out, “drop like a rock” if I remember the term. And Gringrich was ascending, rising, a shining shooting star that would sweep the day and prove his worth.

Now I guess there will a whole new set of promises; Gingrich will win the NEXT set of states. Maybe he will. Maybe we should hope he will. I would have loved to see him sweep super tuesday, if for no other reason than we’d stop these rediculous threads.

Instead, we might get a Santorum sweep, or more likely the same outcome as two weeks ago, good but not quite good enough if Santorum can’t quite take Ohio.

One thing is clear. If Santorum was gone, Romney would likely have sealed the nomination today. It would have been a long slog still, but having swept February and taken half the states today, the “inevitability” argument would have taken hold.

Santorum is the one candidate who stood in the breach after Florida, fought in those states that Newt dismissed as places nobody cared about, and stopped the Romney bandwagon in it’s tracks. For that alone, he deserves a lot better than the smears he gets hit with regularly here.


104 posted on 03/06/2012 7:45:49 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

“But Gingritch is the only one who will take it to the bitter end.”

Newt has reached his bitter end tonight.


105 posted on 03/06/2012 7:46:20 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: impimp

Heh. That’s pretty funny. It’s not going to happen. Not all voters are feminists with desires for big revenues going to social services (Santorum’s voting record).


106 posted on 03/06/2012 7:46:30 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: adm5

For you to say baby rick is the most conservative shows you didn’t look at his record. And he’s a liar.


107 posted on 03/06/2012 7:47:20 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: independent in tx
"and [Santorum] gets caught up in social issues."

We thank God somebody does, because Obama and the Democrat Party are equally engaged in destroying our social and moral underpinnings as they are in enforcing Marxist economics.

We can have conservative free-market economics, but the nation is toast if it has a societal reprobate mind.

Millions of us want free-market economics in a nation not run by moral perverts, thank you very much.

108 posted on 03/06/2012 7:51:09 PM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: abigailsmybaby

“I love this. How many states are left to vote? I just love you nuts who think only a few should make the decision.”

Not enough for Newt to get the nomination. THe guy is at best 3rd place. So according to you he needs to just make up the difference in volume?


109 posted on 03/06/2012 7:51:09 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: lahargis
Excuse me, please! Newt has won only two states - GA and SC - his home state and the neighboring state. Depending on Ohio, Ricky has won either 8 or 9 - all in various parts of the country. I do like Newt, but most people don't.

If Newt can't win Republican primaries, please, please, tell me how he is going to beat Obama?

It's good to be passionate about your candidate, but at the same time, please do not be delusional.

110 posted on 03/06/2012 7:52:21 PM PST by Dave W
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Didn’t everybody take aim on RS 3 weeks ago after he won 3 states? Then they took more aim at him when he barely lost Michigan. He was “dropping like a rock”, right?

So far, he’s held a little better than we could have hoped for, although his national numbers have been dropping precipitously. Unfortunately, Gingrich numbers aren’t rising.


111 posted on 03/06/2012 7:53:41 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: impimp
HELL NO! NEWT IS IN TO THE END! AND I AM IN WITH HIM!
112 posted on 03/06/2012 7:53:56 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: RFEngineer

Look, we aren’t into Romney. Romney needs two conservative contenders two spend money on defeating in order for RINO Establishment to get the picture that “conservatives aren’t going to take it anymore.”

NO MORE RINOS’!

I wait for Alabama and TEXAS though things are tough. We are sending the Establishment the message.

NO ROMNEY.


113 posted on 03/06/2012 7:53:58 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. Newt knows where all the bodies are buried, because he buried them.)
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To: RitaOK

Romney surging, Santorum barely holding the lead in OH. Santorum by 0.3% (3000 votes out of a million cast) with 250K still to count.


114 posted on 03/06/2012 7:54:03 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: RFEngineer

LOL... Seriously. Some Freepers believe Newt is entitled to the delegates even though he got only 15% of the votes merely because “he’s the most conservative candidate”. They seem believe it.


115 posted on 03/06/2012 7:54:35 PM PST by paudio (no tagline for now...)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Well said. Finally, some sanity.


116 posted on 03/06/2012 7:55:45 PM PST by Dave W
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To: Marguerite

Alaska...the one state Ron Paul will win.


117 posted on 03/06/2012 7:55:56 PM PST by Greg123456
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To: presently no screen name
For you to say baby rick is the most conservative shows you didn’t look at his record. And he’s a liar.

And that is the part that will do him in if he gets the nod. It will be a repeat of PA in 2006.

118 posted on 03/06/2012 7:56:12 PM PST by Abby4116
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To: Marguerite
On Fox, Sarah Palin just said she voted for NEWT GINGRICH in Alaska.

The wisdom of Todd and Sarah Palin can't be disputed. Governor Palin knows the energy industry and realizes that Newt Gingrich's plans to get gasoline prices to $2.50 is realistic.



119 posted on 03/06/2012 7:57:16 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

No, Newt’s Super PAC and Newt’s campaign appear to resist taking on Santorum for some reason. Very poor strategy - very poor - but they haven’t.

Romney meanwhile spent a lot of his money going after Newt in Florida.


120 posted on 03/06/2012 7:57:18 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: RFEngineer

You have to suffer awhile yet, I suspect.

We are not kowtowing at present.

Deal with it.


121 posted on 03/06/2012 7:57:24 PM PST by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: Irenic
AMEN IRENIC! I share your sentiments!
122 posted on 03/06/2012 7:58:41 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: katiedidit1

In other words, what you are really saying is, “I’m going down with the ship.” And that’s fine, nothing wrong with that.


123 posted on 03/06/2012 7:58:55 PM PST by Dave W
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To: paudio

“They seem believe it.”

Newt supporters press on in their hapless quest. but they only evolve from the pathological to the pitiful.

Sad, but strangely humorous.


124 posted on 03/06/2012 7:59:21 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: impimp

Why wast his time endorsing Rickey, when he could just go all the way and endorse Obama?


125 posted on 03/06/2012 8:00:17 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Gingrich ran Robocalls attacking Santorum in Georgia, the one place he didn’t really need the votes, but still it was an attack on Santorum.


126 posted on 03/06/2012 8:00:17 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: RFEngineer

The hell of it is, you don’t have crystal ball.


127 posted on 03/06/2012 8:00:58 PM PST by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you got ta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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To: Dave W

NO more rinos! not ever. Been there and done that..got the hat and tee shirt. Voted for Bush and he was way too moderate for me; voted for the jerk Mccain and he is another rino. NO MORE! No more money to the gop...the only man that can turn this nation around is NEWT!


128 posted on 03/06/2012 8:03:34 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: impimp

He’s pimp, whadya expect?!


129 posted on 03/06/2012 8:03:38 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Still Thinking

Yes, I am watching. Hamilton Co. puts Myth up in Ohio, what 3000 + ?
Very tight. Hope Ricky pulls it out from Romney.

What a message to the Establishment, huh? Maybe a mortal wound in that the people say, “No More!”


130 posted on 03/06/2012 8:04:56 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. Newt knows where all the bodies are buried, because he buried them.)
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To: RitaOK

The delegate totals in your post are the main part of my comment: Each Candidate has his own, non-transferrable following.

If the purpose of the Primary is to develop ideas (planks) that are tested by the Primary voters, (volunteers, donations, rally attendance, votes, delegates), then this Primary has been a smashing success!

The last point is that every delegate not won by Romney increases the chances that NO candidate will win enough delegates before the Convention in Tampa.

The MSM is totally clueless about the importance of having a brokered Convention.

If there is no brokered Convention due to a Romney Primary win, the Taxed Enough Already Party will take over the GOP before the next election in 2014.


131 posted on 03/06/2012 8:05:05 PM PST by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: impimp

Let Santorum bow out. Newt is heading for Tampa.


132 posted on 03/06/2012 8:05:24 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: abigailsmybaby

“The hell of it is, you don’t have crystal ball.”

I don’t need a crystal ball to see Newt is not getting enough votes in the primaries to win the nomination.

If you see anything different it’s a bad crystal ball.


133 posted on 03/06/2012 8:05:27 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: impimp

I agree.


134 posted on 03/06/2012 8:05:35 PM PST by Eagle of Liberty (We the People are coming!!)
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To: RitaOK

“Asked about Rick Santorum’s contention that Gingrich is dividing the conservative, anti-Romney vote, Sarah Palin dismissed the complaint. “Oh, boo-hoo,” she said.

-:)


135 posted on 03/06/2012 8:05:53 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: Usagi_yo

bump


136 posted on 03/06/2012 8:06:09 PM PST by KingNo155
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To: presently no screen name

Is Rick for Cap-N-Tax/Global Warming? No.

Is Rick for Obama/RomneyCare? No.

Guess who is? Newt.

So yeah, “baby rick” is the most conservative of those running for the Republican nomination.


137 posted on 03/06/2012 8:06:16 PM PST by adm5 (AMERICA HAS ONLY GOD AND THE SECOND AMENDMENT LEFT TO SAVE THE REPUBLIC. by: LibLieSlayer 3/18/10)
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To: impimp

NUTS!

I haven't read the replies yet, but I'm here to tell you to go to hell with your fracking idea.

You're a fracking IDIOT to even suggest that Newt step out of the race.

Rick Sanctamonious IS A BIG GOV'T republican and a PILE OF CRAP, who has not done a fraction of what Newt has done to push CONSERVATIVE POLICIES. And this pile of absolute crap ALWAYS has an excuse when he screws up instead of manning up and accepting responsibility for his actions.

“Where liberty dwells, there is my country." –Benjamin Franklin

Islam Delenda Est!

REFUSE. RESIST. Do NOT Submit! ★FREEDOM!★


139 posted on 03/06/2012 8:08:45 PM PST by Neil E. Wright (An OATH is FOREVER OathKeeper III We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

So that makes the ratio of negative ads against Newt versus negative ads against Santorum, what, only about 20 thousand dollars to one ratio?


140 posted on 03/06/2012 8:09:32 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: VinL

“Asked about Rick Santorum’s contention that Gingrich is dividing the conservative, anti-Romney vote, Sarah Palin dismissed the complaint. “Oh, boo-hoo,” she said.

-:)

Ahahaha she’s great!


141 posted on 03/06/2012 8:09:36 PM PST by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: adm5

Check the baby’s record - lots of poop in it.

He has a BIG gov’t spending rash.


142 posted on 03/06/2012 8:10:05 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: GeronL
If Newt can’t even take 2nd place outside of his own state, then he has no business staying in. I am sure Rick can find a Cabinet position to offer him.

I'm afraid that's the case. I hoped Newt would do better in the south, but it is not to be. I predict he will drop out this week.
143 posted on 03/06/2012 8:11:02 PM PST by Antoninus (In states where Newt is ahead, vote Newt. In states where Rick is ahead, vote Rick. Defeat Romney.)
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To: Dave W

You really need an education on the difference between primaries and caucuses and what each says about electability. But I don’t have my kindergarten teaching certificate.


144 posted on 03/06/2012 8:13:20 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: RitaOK

RCP’s showing Rinomney +1,837 (+0.2%) with 85% counted. Still very close, but Romney’s been gaining steadily so who knows. :(


145 posted on 03/06/2012 8:13:27 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Dave W

With supporters like we have seen here, how does it matter if Newt only got 15%? They will make him to believe that he’s the chosen one and entitled to the nomination. Primary results be darned!


146 posted on 03/06/2012 8:13:58 PM PST by paudio (no tagline for now...)
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To: Graewoulf

YES! YES! YES! Every delegate kept out of the Romney columns speaks to the socialists running the Republican party that, WE ARE DONE!

Thank you for bringing your point home, my friend.

1000 votes separate Myth and Rick, and upward to 3000 shortly. A caucus state.


147 posted on 03/06/2012 8:14:46 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. Newt knows where all the bodies are buried, because he buried them.)
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To: Neil E. Wright

“NUTS!

I haven’t read the replies yet, but I’m here to tell you to go to hell with your fracking idea.”

You sound like a liberal opposed to fracking. Do you want us all to buy Chevy volts too just like the Dems?


148 posted on 03/06/2012 8:15:16 PM PST by impimp
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To: Antoninus

He did get 2nd in Florida, right next to his state.


149 posted on 03/06/2012 8:15:38 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: RitaOK

Thanks for the count!

So it appears that even if you add Santorum’s and Newt’s delegates together they add to 198...still less than Myth. that leads me to think that neither Newt nor Rick are “hurting each other” and splitting the vote. I don’t know how many are committed delegates.

It looks like there is a difference of 44 delegates between them. No big deal. The popular vote doesn’t count in the general. So if both men have the stamina and funds to stay in, I think that is great. Maybe the rest of the country would like to have a chance to vote.

And may I add...Go Newt!!


150 posted on 03/06/2012 8:18:15 PM PST by berdie
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