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Gingrich must endorse Santorum
http://www.freerepublic.com ^ | 6 March 2012 | impimp

Posted on 03/06/2012 6:59:02 PM PST by impimp

I have advocated Gingrich staying in until sometime in March. I felt the vote splitting would help prevent Romney from locking up a sufficient number of bound delegates to take the nomination. The plan did a good job so far, but not a great job.

I think now the mathematics is shifting such that Gingrich needs to bow out. The reasons for the shift are:

1. winner-take-alls coming up soon - vote splitting begins to really hurt us in these primaries 2. we need money consolidating behind Santorum. 3. Santorum made the Indiana ballot after all

But now Gingrich needs to bow out.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chat; chitchat; gingrich; kenyanbornmuzzie; mittromney; newtgingrich; personal; ricksantorum; santorum; vanity
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To: seekthetruth

JOHN King will be the superior delegate counter. No FAUX for me. Megan Kelly makes me crazy. FOX is static. CNN is nuts and bolts on election evenings.


51 posted on 03/06/2012 7:19:50 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. Newt knows where all the bodies are buried, because he buried them.)
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To: impimp

Seriously? I like Newt, A lot and so do my friends. I hope he rises again and kicks Obummer arse.


52 posted on 03/06/2012 7:20:12 PM PST by GreatRoad (O < 0)
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To: RFEngineer

What do you mean he cannot win? He won the largest amount of delegates available tonight from one state! Obama would run all over Santo.


53 posted on 03/06/2012 7:20:15 PM PST by lahargis (https://www.newt.org/donate)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Noindividualmandatistan


54 posted on 03/06/2012 7:20:15 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: impimp

Uh, let me think about this for awhile...NO!


55 posted on 03/06/2012 7:20:26 PM PST by LaybackLenny (All hail Her Royal Highness Sarah, Queen of The Hobbits)
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To: impimp

“must”? Who the hell are you to tell to Speaker Gingrich what he “must” do? GFY.


56 posted on 03/06/2012 7:21:00 PM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: impimp

Anything that knocks out the used car salesman is fine with me..Or maybe Romney is the Schticky salesman..whatever!


57 posted on 03/06/2012 7:21:00 PM PST by hope
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To: Catsrus

What are you talking about? Are you on a different web site called FR? Romney and BHO are no different with one exception one thinks he is going to be god the other thinks he already is.


58 posted on 03/06/2012 7:21:24 PM PST by svcw (Only difference between Romney & BH is one thinks he will be god & other one thinks he already is.)
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To: Steelfish

I don’t want a Santorum president and NO, I don’t like Romney either, I dislike them equally.

I will vote against Obama in Nov but I won’t be voting for Santorum or Romney.

My state doesn’t vote until May 29th and I would like a chance to vote for the candidate of my choice.

I really give two chits what the Santorum, Paul or Romney folk want. I don’t support those candidates and I won’t.

Go Gingrich!

Oh and 2.50 a gallon gas is possible.


59 posted on 03/06/2012 7:21:31 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Christie at the beach

“the leftists are still causing havoc.”

Oh, so Newt is blaming his 15% showing on democrats, not republicans. Let’s see that would mean that democrats would be voting better than 4-1 in a republican primary, assuming 100% of actual republicans are voting for Newt, which if you are a Newt supporter, is part of the pathology.


60 posted on 03/06/2012 7:21:41 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: impimp

Newt Gingrich gives us Mitt Romney which gives us Barack Obama.


61 posted on 03/06/2012 7:22:42 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: impimp

Newt should only drop out if Santorum agrees in writing to make him his running mate. Look how many of you people support Newt. I like him too, but about a year ago 90% of you threw him under the bus for supporting Scuzzzy Fava up in NY.


62 posted on 03/06/2012 7:23:34 PM PST by Greg123456
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To: lahargis

“What do you mean he cannot win? “

Am I missing something, or is Newt in 3rd place in the Republican Primary?

He cannot win the general when he has been soundly repudiated in the primaries. Newt will be watching the election from the sidelines. Republican voters have spoken. They don’t want Newt.


63 posted on 03/06/2012 7:24:35 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: impimp

Newt needs to do something dramatic like say Paul Ryan is his top pick for VP if he’s the nominee. As we see with the results, his solutions and intellect are being ignored. I really don’t get it. I guess you actually have to pay attention to understand why Newt is best and too many people are too busy to care. Look at the past. Bob Dole? Snoozefest! John McCain? Was afraid to fight Obama in the debates. Now we have Santorum. I might agree with Santorum on the social issues, but the country is so morally bankrupt, they’ll be too many “scared” of him as the mainstream media distorts his social positions. Is Santorum really going to debate Obama and win decisively. I just don’t see Santorum winning because he’s not provocative enough. If you want to cut through the media and realy take apart Obama truly educating America once and for all why conservative ideas are better than liberals ideas, why capitalism is better than socialism, you must unleash Newt. It’s that simple. Why so many people don’t see this makes me sick. But if this country was stupid enough to make Obama a President, I can’t expect them to be smart enough to make Newt one. Pretty sad state of affairs.


64 posted on 03/06/2012 7:24:46 PM PST by larryleo (We all need to get Newtered!)
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To: impimp

No. Then I’ll have no one to vote for. I’m NOT into compromise anymore.


65 posted on 03/06/2012 7:25:14 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: impimp

Come on, Imp- not gonna happen.

FLASHBACK- JANUARY 31, 2012–

BACKGROUND: NEWT Lost FLA- but still leading nationally: Rick loses in NH, SC, FLA, and soon, nev- . Did he bow out with honor?

No, just the opposite. Instead, of competing with Newt in the arena of ideas, Rick went “romney”- he back-stabbed his mentor and fellow conservative. From FR:

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“Rick Santorum’s presidential campaign announced a new television ad that will begin airing Tuesday in Colorado and Nevada.

The ad attacks Newt Gingrich as being too liberal for the GOP nomination by arguing that he shares many policy positions with President Obama and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.). “All three supported radical cap and trade legislation that would destroy American jobs and drive up energy costs. All three supported giving illegal aliens some form of amnesty. All three sported the government health mandates which take away our freedom and is the core of ObamaCare. And all three of these politician’s supported the Wall Street bailouts that was a slap in the face to the Tea Party,” the narrator says.

It goes on to refer to the trio as “cap and trade loving, bailout supporting, soft on immigration, big-government mandating politicians.” The commercial is a sharp indictment of Gingrich, with whom Santorum has split more conservative voters in early primary contests.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2840754/posts

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Rick set the rules on how one deals with fellow conservatives– now he has to play by them. You reap what you sow— Rick understands that.


66 posted on 03/06/2012 7:25:30 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: ansel12

Have you seen this? Pro Newt.

http://www.politijim.com/2012/02/worship-santorum-shoe.html


67 posted on 03/06/2012 7:26:31 PM PST by Taxachusan ("Let me be clear...and cheerful.")
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To: svcw

Nope, not on another site - its just that people want to throw darts at Santorum’s past votes, and ignore what Romeny has done. Maybe I should have said Gingrich instead. Same difference - they are all flawed candidates.


68 posted on 03/06/2012 7:26:41 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: VinL

Precisely. Mr. Moral Oral.......


69 posted on 03/06/2012 7:27:43 PM PST by Toespi
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To: impimp

Like Sarah said “oh boo-hoo. No way should anybody drop out.”


70 posted on 03/06/2012 7:28:56 PM PST by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you got ta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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To: impimp

I am really surprised that there are so many FReepers who are supporting Newt vs. Rick Santorum.

This is the same Newt who sat on a couch with Nancy Pelosi and declared that global warming is caused by manmade activities and then he was to come out with a book about his BIG, BOLD IDEAS concerning MAN CAUSED GLOBAL WARMING errrr “Climate Change”. (conveniently you cannot find that book being peddled by old Newt yet...Hmmm, I wonder why?)

Then we find out that he also supports the “individual mandate” or also known as ROMNEYCARE and Version II which we all affectionately call OBAMACARE. So let me get this straight, Newt is on the side of OBAMA and MITTENS, and yet “he is our man” ?????

Now Rick Santorum isn’t perfect, I’ll grant you that. No one is. But I’ll take someone who understands those two basic issues and stands on the side of freedom vs Government Tyranny!

Newt needs to drop out and endorse Rick yesterday. He is done, and all he will do by continuing on is to split the vote and allow Romney to waltz into the nomination. Those calling for a brokered convention are delusional.

What happened to you FRiends? Has FR gone insane?

Here we have the most Conservative Electable candidate possible in Rick and you guys are cheering on a Super-RINO?


71 posted on 03/06/2012 7:30:18 PM PST by adm5 (AMERICA HAS ONLY GOD AND THE SECOND AMENDMENT LEFT TO SAVE THE REPUBLIC. by: LibLieSlayer 3/18/10)
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To: RFEngineer

So in the primaries we should go with a sweater-vest panty-waist social conservative (a la Huckabee) or a heretic? (If he’s that wrong about the Bible what else is he missing?)

Churchill was a similar anti-choice, but he proved worthy when the test came...


72 posted on 03/06/2012 7:30:28 PM PST by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: Greg123456

You may be on to something. I am concerned about the 12 amendment to the constitution. Can someone please comment on the 12th amendment and what can be done so that we comply with the constitution AND maximize the probability of winning the VP and the Presidency. We don’t want just one !


73 posted on 03/06/2012 7:30:28 PM PST by impimp
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To: Still Thinking

Newt might still win Alabama and Mississippi, which would set up a win in winner take all Texas. Whole new game if that happens.

Now, not sure I would predict all of that, but all of that is possible. With all of that possible, he should and will stay in.

Because Santorum cannot win the general election.


74 posted on 03/06/2012 7:30:58 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: GeronL

Sweatervestia? RomneyVPistan? LoseBigtoBarryberg?


75 posted on 03/06/2012 7:33:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: VinL

Yep, and everyone is likely to take aim on RS this week. We’ll see how it holds up.


76 posted on 03/06/2012 7:33:05 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: HMS Surprise

If Newt were to drop, that might be helpful to Santorum. Let’s say it gets him nominated..... we win nothing because there is no way that he can win against Obama.

I can’t stand Romney, but even if he wins the nomination, we still lose to Obama. If I am wrong and either of those two beat Obama, we still lose because they are not up for the job.

At this point, it’s Newt or a convention for me. LOL... but even then, anything could happen.

Unlike you, I could not vote for Santorum.

A crazy year for sure, but I do not want Newt to give up.


77 posted on 03/06/2012 7:33:19 PM PST by Gator113 (** President Newt Gingrich-"Our beloved republic deserves nothing less." ~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: adm5

Thank you. These are all things I played over in my mind when I went to vote today. I saw Newt sitting with Pelosi on that couch, and it irked me to no end. So, I ended up voting for Rick -


78 posted on 03/06/2012 7:34:08 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: impimp

No.


79 posted on 03/06/2012 7:34:33 PM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: impimp
I have done enough research on Rick. He like Mitt would do nothing to slay big government. Neither one would turn our Republic towards Liberty.

I will not support Rick. The only possible way I see to defeat Obama is if Newt wins. Mitt and Rick would only delay the inevitable.

It would be funny to watch Rick and Myth get slaughtered. Between the three Statists (rick, mitt and obama) the one honest enough to run in the Statist party will win.

80 posted on 03/06/2012 7:35:14 PM PST by sand88 (Nothing on this Earth would get me to vote for Mitt.)
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To: Still Thinking

Things are moving.

Romney - 292
Rick - 121
Newt - 77
Paul - 52

CNN Totals


81 posted on 03/06/2012 7:36:29 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. Newt knows where all the bodies are buried, because he buried them.)
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To: impimp

Convention ....


82 posted on 03/06/2012 7:37:48 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: One Name

“Churchill was a similar anti-choice, but he proved worthy when the test came...”

Actually Churchill had popular support, which Gingrich does not have.

What is so hard for you Newt supporters to understand? He tried, he failed.

Do we really have to suffer through conspiracy theories and Churchillian analogies to justify Newt staying in the race when he has minimal support?


83 posted on 03/06/2012 7:38:06 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: impimp
Absolutely NOT! Santorum needs to "bow out" and endorse Gingrich. Santorum is too stupid to be President and would be more likely to lose to Obama than even Mitt.

Santorum is not presidential material.
84 posted on 03/06/2012 7:38:22 PM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: Marguerite

85 posted on 03/06/2012 7:38:30 PM PST by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you got ta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

You think the Ohio Gop-e is playing Dem games- holding back the Romney vote to see how many he needs at the end?


86 posted on 03/06/2012 7:38:46 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: Taxachusan

He is pretty good, you should consider using his stuff as thread articles.


87 posted on 03/06/2012 7:39:01 PM PST by ansel12 (Santorum-Catholic and "I was basically pro-choice all my life, until I ran for Congress" he said))
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To: Greg123456

No way. Why should Newt be a baby sitter for baby Rick. And Rick’s a liar.


88 posted on 03/06/2012 7:39:49 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“What needs to happen, is Gingrich and Santorum to strike a deal, and start campaigning as a ticket.”

IMHO, you have the solution, provided that it is NEWT-Santorum. THAT is as far as I would compromise, and I can’t stand Santorum.


89 posted on 03/06/2012 7:40:06 PM PST by Gator113 (** President Newt Gingrich-"Our beloved republic deserves nothing less." ~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Catsrus

NEwt is the only one that can handle BO the right way. It’s pure baloney to say that he can’t beat BO. BO is useless without his telepromptor. Santorum needs to drop out and endorse Newt. Go Newt. Santorum is too green for this time around and for the times we are living in.


90 posted on 03/06/2012 7:41:10 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: impimp
You don't seem to be getting a lot of support here.

Let me add my lack of support.

Go Newt.

91 posted on 03/06/2012 7:41:27 PM PST by TChad
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To: Christie at the beach
Rick the spoiler? Wow, you sound like a lib, making stuff up as you go along. Rick has won ND, TN, OK and maybe Ohio. The other states, Rick is in second place - not Newt. Rick has won IA, CO, MN, etc.

Gingrich has won (cough) two - SC and GA, his home state.

Newt is clearly the spoiler. However, don't worry about it. Gingrich won't withdraw. Newt's ego is as big as the Titanic. Sorry, bad analogy.

92 posted on 03/06/2012 7:41:45 PM PST by Dave W
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To: RitaOK

Yes, CNN is much better at this.


93 posted on 03/06/2012 7:42:06 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: RFEngineer

I love this. How many states are left to vote? I just love you nuts who think only a few should make the decision.


94 posted on 03/06/2012 7:42:20 PM PST by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you got ta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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To: impimp

No. This needs to go on. Sorry.

Both Santorum & Romney are weaklings. They won’t fight Obama tooth and nail, the way this election will have to be fought. You saw how McCain folded, like a wet hankie. We need someone who will fight to the last inch. Even then Gingritch might lose to “Deep Pockets” Obama. But Gingritch is the only one who will take it to the bitter end.


95 posted on 03/06/2012 7:42:51 PM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (If you back Newt . . . then SEND HIM MONEY!! "Be Breitbart, Baby!")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

fascinating...


96 posted on 03/06/2012 7:43:22 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (NEWT in 2012)
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To: impimp
Rick needs to withdraw and endorse Noot.

Noot has actually balanced the federal budget.

97 posted on 03/06/2012 7:43:31 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopaths.)
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To: dandiegirl

“Santorum needs to drop out and endorse Newt. Go Newt. “

So is this the new strategy? Newt needs everyone to quit so he can win? Brilliant.


98 posted on 03/06/2012 7:44:02 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“No you are thinking inside the box.

What needs to happen, is Gingrich and Santorum to strike a deal, and start campaigning as a ticket.”
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Network, your assessment is right on as far as I’m concerned and would be a winning strategy. Unfortunately, personalities and self-defeating, childish stubbornness are in play (on all conservative sides). If such an alliance were to take place before the big winner-take-all primaries start to roll out in April, there would still be time for this approach to succeed. I’m not a defeatist by nature but I am beginning to despair at the way things are developing — a way that continuing unchanged will lead inexorably to a Romney nomination.


99 posted on 03/06/2012 7:44:55 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: impimp

Uhm. No.

I don’t want Santorum - not one bit. He’s a fine man and all... but I don’t want him for my president now. I want a mean-ass fighter thank you.

Santo may not win a single state vs ozero. He has no chance.

Newt.


100 posted on 03/06/2012 7:44:58 PM PST by Principled
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