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In event of an Iran-Israel showdown, what would US military do?
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 3/5/2012 | Anna Mulrine

Posted on 03/06/2012 9:08:13 PM PST by U-238

How would the US military respond if Iran attacked US interests – in retaliation for, say, an Israeli strike on its nuclear facilities? What would a US counterattack look like?

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's visit to Washington Monday to meet with President Obama – which comes in the midst of increasingly vocal warnings from Pentagon officials urging caution on any military action in the region – has brought these questions into sharp focus this week.

These questions, too, were at the heart of one of the largest US military war-game exercises in a decade, meant to mirror the conditions that US troops would face if Iran were to, say, shut down shipping through the Strait of Hormuz.

The war game, dubbed “Bold Alligator,” included some 16,000 US Navy seamen and Marines, as well as a a contingent of US allies from Europe and Australia, and took place near Norfolk, Va., last month.

Yet Iran conducts its own war-game exercises, too, designed to practice how best to make US military operations in the region difficult, defense analysts note.

The Pentagon’s exercise, for its part, was designed to explore what might happen when US troops face threats in a populated, “built-up” area like the Persian Gulf, according to senior US military officials.

The exercises were “certainly informed by recent history,” says Adm. John Harvey, head of the US Navy’s Fleet Forces Command.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boldalligator; fifthfleet; iran; israel; persiangulf; straitofhormuz; usnavy

1 posted on 03/06/2012 9:08:18 PM PST by U-238
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To: U-238

Arrest their Commander In Chief?

2 posted on 03/06/2012 9:17:28 PM PST by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: U-238

Obama would order a neutral sounding tactic such as a complete no-fly zone that would hamper Israel’s efforts at self-defense. And win another Nobel for it.

Transgressions by Iran would be ignored. Israel would eventually have to break the no-fly zone, too. Obama would then order the shoot-down of Israeli planes.

The short term pieces after that are fuzzy, but the end game is WWIII.

And no, Israel no longer has any choice but to go down this road...

3 posted on 03/06/2012 9:21:59 PM PST by piytar (Rebellion is here! Free Republic is on the front line! NEVER SURRENDER!)
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To: piytar
The short term pieces after that are fuzzy, but the end game is WWIII.

Especially when China and Russia is siding with Iran.
4 posted on 03/06/2012 9:24:08 PM PST by U-238
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To: U-238

If it were after Obama is gone, I am 100% certain that we would aid Israel no matter what it took. If it’s before Obama is gone, I figure Iran would be defended no matter what. That is what I take from the ideology of Obama. Bend over, bow down, concede, and comfort our enemies, and never do 1 single thing in the interest of America. This man is NOT one of us.

5 posted on 03/06/2012 9:24:17 PM PST by lwoodham (Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.)
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To: U-238

On orders from their Commander In Chief: THEY WOULD DO NOTHING!

6 posted on 03/06/2012 9:24:43 PM PST by LADY J (You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have. - Author Unknown)
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When you add more players to the board it makes things a little complicated.

7 posted on 03/06/2012 9:24:53 PM PST by U-238
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To: U-238

We will supply the Israelis with everything they need in terms of logistics and intelligence. We will not be involved militarily. We have no mutual defense pact with Israel.

8 posted on 03/06/2012 9:27:19 PM PST by kabar
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To: U-238

What would the US do? That depends on whether or not there’s a Kenyan Jew-hater in the White House at the time.

9 posted on 03/06/2012 9:27:34 PM PST by Redcloak (Mitt Romney: Puttin' the "Country club" back in "Republican".)
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To: kabar

November 24, 2010 Memorandum of cooperation relating to technical assistance in developing and modernizing Israel’s civil aviation security infrastructure
September 10, 2009 Agreement amending the agreement of March 31, 2001 for the arrow system improvement program (ASIP)
January 16, 2009 Memorandum of Understanding Between The United States and Israel Regarding Prevention of the Supply of Arms and Related Materiel to Terrorist Groups
May 29, 2008 Agreement on cooperation in science and technology for homeland security matters, with annex
February 10, 1998 Acquisition and cross-servicing agreement with annexes.
January 28, 1998 Treaty on mutual assistance in criminal matters.
September 3, 1996 Agreement for technology research and development projects.
April 30, 1996 Counterterrorism cooperation accord
July 18, 1996 Memorandum of Agreement concerning the tactical high energy laser (THEL) advanced concept technology demonstration (ACTD).
April 30, 1996 Counterterrorism cooperation accord to enhance capabilities to deter, prevent, respond to and investigate international terrorist acts or threats of international terrorist acts against Israel or the United States.
November 28, 1991 Agreement on cooperation to combat illicit narcotics trafficking and abuse
October 18, 1991 Memorandum of Understanding for a loan of a multi-sensor integrate system for the purpose of test and evaluation
June 1991 Agreement pertaining to Arrow Continuation Experiments (ACES) the second stage of the joint U.S.-Israel Arrow missile program
January 22, 1991 Agreement on the status of United States personnel
September 8, 1989 MOU regarding transfers of materials, supplies and equipment for cooperative research and development programs
April 1989 Memorandum of Agreement between the Strategic Defense Initiative Organization and Israel’s Defense Ministry to develop a $35 million computer facility as part of the Arrow missile program
May 24, 1988 Agreement relating to mutual defense assistance
April 21, 1988 Agreement regarding payment for tooling costs of accelerated production of M-60A1 tanks
December 14, 1987 Agreement concerning construction of air base facilities
November 29, 1983 Agreement concerning funding of air base facilities
December 10, 1982 General security of information agreement
April 6, 1979 Agreement creating the Joint Political Military Group and Joint Security Assistance Program
April 6, 1979 Memorandum of Agreement concerning the principles governing mutual cooperation in research and development, scientist and engineer exchange, and procurement and logistic support of defense equipment, with annexes and attachment.
October 23, 1975 Memorandum of Agreement regarding joint political, security and economic cooperation.
July 23, 1952 Mutual logistic support agreement

10 posted on 03/06/2012 9:31:30 PM PST by U-238
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To: kabar

11 posted on 03/06/2012 9:39:23 PM PST by U-238
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To: U-238

With Obama in the White House?

They’d watch it on CSPAN between games of ping pong.

12 posted on 03/06/2012 9:48:40 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Jack Hammer

We would have to wait until mac daddy finished more important tasks:

Planning his next, 156th, vacation
Planning his next party
Playing all his race cards
Admiring himself in the mirror
Patting himself on the back
Making another useless speech that is nothing but lies
Bowing before some mideast rag head

And then comes the moment when he decides to do NOTHING.

13 posted on 03/06/2012 11:17:42 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: piytar

Re #3:

I fear you may be correct. Obama IS MUSLIM. He will not help Isreal but will try to shield Iran.

14 posted on 03/07/2012 4:51:36 AM PST by appalachian_dweller (Live each day as if it's your last. It might be.)
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To: U-238

I am aware of most of those agreements, but we do not have a mutual defense agreement whereby an attack against Israel is considered an attack against the United States and vice versa. There is no such thing in our relationship similar to Article 5 of the NATO Treaty, i.e, an attack against one is an attack against all. Article 5 was implemented for the first time after 9/11, which is why NATO is in Afghanistan.

15 posted on 03/07/2012 7:09:56 AM PST by kabar
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To: U-238

Here is the tactical problem:

Iran is well aware of Israel’s (rightful) intentions and America’s weapons, and have up-armored every critical process in their nuclear weapons program.

Tunneling is something that Iran has always done better than any country in the world, throughout history, it’s an engineering fact.

Israel’s goal is to attack, not to necessarily succeed. A show of strength at a minimum.

America has a different challenge, we cannot participate in an attack that doesn’t win. If our bunker-busters don’t work, we lose the credibility of that weapon system.

The world will then know that anyone, N Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, Myanmar, Pakistan, etc can hide evil underground.

Our military planners doubt the bunker-busters will work.

De-mystifying ground penetration bombs ends their diplomatic and strategic use.

OK, everyone will know how deep to dig.

And...Iran will learn from any failed attack that it cannot be stopped by Israel or America. They will bray like a pack of mules at the world...and be believed.

I believe that Iran wants to be attacked.

16 posted on 03/07/2012 7:51:36 AM PST by gandalftb (11th MEU, 2/4 Echo, TRAP Force)
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To: gandalftb

Bump for later reading...

17 posted on 03/07/2012 5:20:33 PM PST by AdvisorB (Dilma is "hope and change" Brazilian style.)
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To: gandalftb

Bump for later reading...

18 posted on 03/07/2012 5:20:42 PM PST by AdvisorB (Dilma is "hope and change" Brazilian style.)
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To: U-238
When Israel unleashes on Iran then Iran won't be doing nothing for a considerable time. This will not be a Bush leave things intact type of attack. Israel will destroy Iranian infrastructure bringing the nation too it's knees in short order. The U.S. will learn of it as the bombs are dropped and the first wave Israeli planes are returning to base.

Our unceasing since Poppy Bush being in Israel's business as far as them trying to deal with their own terrorist threats has done Israel great harm and U.S. no good. Our Schmucks in DC need to learn a valuable history lesson. The ONE who watches over Israel never slumbers and I don't mean Obama. We do her harm at the very risk of our acquired blessing as a nation.

19 posted on 03/07/2012 5:35:41 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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