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Will 2012 Be a Republican Year? (It's not just the Presidency but every level of government)
American Thinker ^ | 03/07/2012 | Bruce Walker

Posted on 03/07/2012 6:29:47 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Although most conservatives understand the important of defeating Obama, the next Congress has to be almost coequal in importance. ObamaCare, for example, cannot be repealed without control of the House of Representatives and not only control of the Senate, but enough senators to forestall a filibuster. Appointments to the federal bench, especially the Supreme Court, require Senate approval. Many of the reforms which conservatives see as vital to economic growth -- reform of the tax code, deregulation of environmental extremism, and changes to the entitlements systems -- will require congressional concurrence.

The structure of the Senate races in 2012 and also in 2014 favors Republicans. This is a consequence of the Democrats' big win six years ago in the 2006 election. Ten Republicans defend seats, and seven of those -- Indiana, Tennessee, Mississippi, Texas, Wyoming, Utah, and Arizona -- have been strongly Republican in recent decades. How Republican? Each of those seven states has a Republican governor, two Republican senators, and Republicans control both houses of the state legislature.

Two states may be considered toss-ups: Nevada and Maine. Both states have Republican governors. Nevada has one senator of each party, and Maine has two Republican senators. The Nevada legislative chambers are split, but both houses of the Maine legislature are controlled by Republicans. The ethical imbroglio of John Ensign and the decision by Olympia Snowe not to seek re-election, however, put these seats in play. The only Republican Senate seat in jeopardy because the state is strongly Democrat is Massachusetts, but Scott Brown still runs surprisingly well in polls.

Democrat senators are retiring in North Dakota, Nebraska, Virginia, Wisconsin, and New Mexico. North Dakota and Nebraska are very red states, and Virginia is also a red state, though less emphatically. Republicans have strong candidates in Wisconsin, Virginia, and New Mexico.

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KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012polls; 2012swingstates; bho2012; gop; republican
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1 posted on 03/07/2012 6:29:53 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

not if they continue to be as blind to and feckless with the Alinsky tactics as they’ve been in this whole Sandra Fluke deal


2 posted on 03/07/2012 6:36:01 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind
Will 2012 Be a Republican Year?

I sincerely hope not. The Republican Party has proven that they are NOT the conservative stewards of the government and are as bad or worse than the left. I would far rather that 2012 be a Tea Paty Year.

However, barring that, our government needs a major overhaul and reset that takes us BACK to the original Constitution written and presented by the Founding Fathers. There are a few minor tweaks needed that eliminate the present situation, but those aren't the major issues; we need to get back to the government our Founders created, NOTv the government that the 'Pubbies and Dems have given us today.

3 posted on 03/07/2012 6:51:41 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Will 2012 Be a Republican Year?

I sincerely hope not. The Republican Party has proven that they are NOT the conservative stewards of the government and are as bad or worse than the left. I would far rather that 2012 be a Tea Party Year.

However, barring that, our government needs a major overhaul and reset that takes us BACK to the original Constitution written and presented by the Founding Fathers. There are a few minor tweaks needed that eliminate the present situation, but those aren't the major issues; we need to get back to the government our Founders created, NOTv the government that the 'Pubbies and Dems have given us today.

4 posted on 03/07/2012 6:51:57 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: DustyMoment

RE: I sincerely hope not

Well if your hope becomes reality, guess whose year 2012 will be?


5 posted on 03/07/2012 6:55:02 AM PST by SeekAndFind (question)
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To: SeekAndFind

Joe is the reason Obama’s handlers are so careful to stack the crowds, pre-screen the questions, and manage anyone that might embarrass the donkey butt in chief.


6 posted on 03/07/2012 6:56:58 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: FreeAtlanta; SeekAndFind

I need a cup of coffee. I posted to the wrong thread. sorry.


7 posted on 03/07/2012 6:58:16 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d like to say that the republican party of Romney can go straight to hell, but alas, they have beat me to the punch.


8 posted on 03/07/2012 7:00:39 AM PST by TADSLOS (Obama is all Greek.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes. The defeat of Obama, even by an undesirable nominee like Romney, will be important. I believe there are very bad ramifications if Obama is kept in power. He is working overtime to destroy prosperity and liberty.

Class warfare, racism, and unfettered power grabs by the federal government will grow unchecked in an Obama second term. Romney, if the nominee, has faults...but blatant class warfare and racist behavior isn’t among them. His tendency toward big government solutions can be circumvented by a Republican congress.


9 posted on 03/07/2012 7:11:38 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: DustyMoment

Primaries are the only way to change representatives.


10 posted on 03/07/2012 7:12:04 AM PST by DWC (historian)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes. The defeat of Obama, even by an undesirable nominee like Romney, will be important. I believe there are very bad ramifications if Obama is kept in power. He is working overtime to destroy prosperity and liberty.

Class warfare, racism, and unfettered power grabs by the federal government will grow unchecked in an Obama second term. Romney, if the nominee, has faults...but blatant class warfare and racist behavior isn’t among them. His tendency toward big government solutions can be circumvented by a Republican congress.


11 posted on 03/07/2012 7:12:35 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SeekAndFind

As things stand now, I think it’ll be a mixed bag at best. The GOP will likely hold onto the House and has a 50/50 chance of winning the Senate.

In WI, Walker will probably survive (barely) the recall attempt, but by the law of averages, at least one of the GOP senators there will fall. With the Voter ID law hamstrung by a pro-recall judge, the door is open for widespread fraud, so it’ll be up to patriotic citizens to monitor the polling locations.

I’m not confident at all about the Presidential race.


12 posted on 03/07/2012 7:14:46 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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To: FreeAtlanta
I need a cup of coffee. I posted to the wrong thread. sorry.

No worries... your comment still has a general application pretty much anywhere.

13 posted on 03/07/2012 7:16:54 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Last month I happened to get into a conversation with a pollster who let slip that her polling company had recently completed a poll on “race relation” and had been told by whoever paid for this poll not to release the results because of what it showed.


14 posted on 03/07/2012 7:31:23 AM PST by Larry381 ("Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.")
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To: DWC
Primaries are the only way to change representatives.

But, we don't. Evwery 2 years we re-elect the same 535 people to the Congress and wonder why things keep deteriorating.

We don't grasp the fact that the 535 people we keep sending the Congress who CREATED the problems have NO CLUE how to FIX the problems.

BTW, primaries are NOT the only way to change representatives.

15 posted on 03/07/2012 7:53:32 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Well if your hope becomes reality, guess whose year 2012 will be?

Does it really matter?? Right now, our choice is shaping up to be Obama and Obama'lite. There is no "None of the Above"!

16 posted on 03/07/2012 7:55:19 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: DustyMoment

RE: Does it really matter??

ABSOLUTELY.

I am CERTAIN that Obama will be appointing liberal judges like Ginsberg who will continue to wreck havoc on our system long after he is gone.

I am quite certain that a Santorum or Gingrich will appoint someone like Thomas or Scalia (because they said so ).

Romney did say he would follow GW Bush’s lead in appointing judges and justices.

See here:

http://archive.redstate.com/stories/featured_stories/romney_on_judges_follow_bushs_lead

G W Bush,for all his faults, gave us Alito and Roberts. Good men both.

Bush also appointed great jurists like Miguel Estrada and Janice Rogers Brown ( not always successful in his appointments, but still, you know his inclination ).

ON THIS ISSUE ALONE, THERE IS A GREAT GAP BETWEEN A FLAWED GOP PRESIDENT AND OBAMA.

And Let’s forget to mention EVERY SINGLE CANDIDATE’s PROMISE ( which I believe they intend to fulfill ) to help REPEAL Obamacare.

I’ll take Obama-lite to Obama anytime if the choice boils down to this.


17 posted on 03/07/2012 8:04:55 AM PST by SeekAndFind (question)
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To: SeekAndFind

Romney is a liar.


18 posted on 03/07/2012 8:06:02 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

RE: Romney is a liar.

Guess what, if you inspect their records, ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN CAUGHT LYING IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

If you’re looking for someone who NEVER lies, I’m not sure if you can find such a person anywhere on earth.


19 posted on 03/07/2012 8:08:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind (question)
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To: SeekAndFind

Romney lies whenever he opens his mouth. I won’t vote for him.


20 posted on 03/07/2012 8:48:23 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

RE: I won’t vote for him.

I guess you will just let Obama cruise then...


21 posted on 03/07/2012 8:52:36 AM PST by SeekAndFind (question)
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To: SeekAndFind

There’s little if any difference between Obama and Romney.


22 posted on 03/07/2012 9:00:50 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ScottinVA

“As things stand now, I think it’ll be a mixed bag at best. The GOP will likely hold onto the House and has a 50/50 chance of winning the Senate.”

Unfortunately, Boehner and McConnell have shown themselves to be supporters of the status quo and not reformers of the socialist welfare state. A Romney Presidency with Boehner and McConnell leading Congress is likely to sustain the substantial changes (regulatory and legislative) accomplished by Obama/Pelosi/Reid and not roll them back. Plus this “moderate” leadership team is unlikely to make any progress toward fiscal responsibility.


23 posted on 03/07/2012 9:02:12 AM PST by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: trisham

RE: There’s little if any difference between Obama and Romney.

Why are you certain that Romney will not keep his promise to repeal Obamacare?

He already said that on his first month in office, he will issue an executive order to grant WAIVERS to every state that wish NOT to participate in Obamacare.

That waiver alone will deal a death blow to this law.

That is a huge difference right there.


24 posted on 03/07/2012 9:03:35 AM PST by SeekAndFind (question)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obamacare is Romneycare. He’ll never repeal it.


25 posted on 03/07/2012 9:05:54 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SeekAndFind

With Romney as the candidate Republicans may have major losses in the House and not gain in the Senate. Many who would vote for a conservative presidential candidate will see no reason to vote for president and will stay home and thus not vote for Senators and Representatives either.


26 posted on 03/07/2012 9:10:18 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: trisham

RE: Obamacare is Romneycare. He’ll never repeal it.

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Here is where we differ in our perception. I believe HE WILL REPEAL IT.

And I am not being naive about it.

If he does not keep this one promise he has shouted on the rooftops in every debate and speech, and on that basis, receiving the votes he’s been getting, he’s killing himself politically.

He might have lied before but Romney is no fool and not a suicidal politician.

Even a liar will keep his promise once in a while. This is going to be one of those times.

On this one issue alone, it is worth NOT sitting this election out and allowing Obama to cruise.


27 posted on 03/07/2012 9:13:29 AM PST by SeekAndFind (question)
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To: arthurus

RE: With Romney as the candidate Republicans may have major losses in the House and not gain in the Senate

I cannot speak for anyone else. I only have one vote in the primaries and if it comes to NY, I’ll vote for either Newt or Santorum (whoever is left by then ).

But even with this effort of mine, Romney still becomes the ultimate nominee, I’ll vote for him in November, if only to get Obama out of our lives.


28 posted on 03/07/2012 9:16:15 AM PST by SeekAndFind (question)
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To: DustyMoment

The new Tea Party blood that has been in Washington since the last elections has given us legal unrestricted detention and assassination of citizens among other atrocities. There is no integrity in them. We work and elect our guys to Congress and when they get there they are not our guys anymore. The problem is that as Representatives they make lots of money working for companies and groups with money to give them and do not need to even be re-elected to lever themselves into the financial Elite of the society. Once elected they are quickly affluent.


29 posted on 03/07/2012 9:16:30 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: SeekAndFind
Romney did say he would follow GW Bush’s lead in appointing judges and justices.
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And Let’s forget to mention EVERY SINGLE CANDIDATE’s PROMISE ( which I believe they intend to fulfill ) to help REPEAL Obamacare.

You must be one of those people that walks into a used car lot and believes everything the salesman tells you...

By the way, how many conservative judges did Governor Romney appoint in Massachusetts?

30 posted on 03/07/2012 9:16:41 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Mitt Romney is SEVERELY conservative - and I'm SEVERELY against giving him my vote!)
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To: COBOL2Java

RE: You must be one of those people that walks into a used car lot and believes everything the salesman tells you...

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And you must be someone like Diogenes, who would stroll about in full daylight with a lamp; when asked what he was doing, he would answer, “I am just looking for an honest man.”

At some point, you have to trust your guts.

I am not naive, Romney is no conservative.

But if we are dealt a bad bargain, Romney vs Obama, I will not sit this one out. My slogan is ABO ( Anybody But Obama ).

I’d rather have a possible repeal of Obamacare (Romney’s promise) than have a SURE NON-REPEAL.


31 posted on 03/07/2012 9:20:21 AM PST by SeekAndFind (question)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The defeat of the kenyan by Obamney will simply preserve the Obamunist gains and solidify the new bureaucracy for the Democrat- perhaps even kenyan- Restoration in 2016. A Romney presidency will also leave a majority Democrat House and Senate, perhaps super majority, for the 2016 incoming Social Democrat.


32 posted on 03/07/2012 9:20:47 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: SeekAndFind
Feel free to provide a post where I've said I'm "sitting out this election". I plan to write in Newt's name if he isn't our candidate.

Romney lies. Why would I believe that this one time he would tell the truth?

33 posted on 03/07/2012 9:30:04 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SeekAndFind
And you must be someone like Diogenes, who would stroll about in full daylight with a lamp; when asked what he was doing, he would answer, “I am just looking for an honest man.”

Nice straw man you've got there. By all means, vote for the slimeball Myth in November. He won't win, anyway, so it really doesn't matter.

Even Mark Levin expressed concerns last night that Bishop Romney's sleazy scorched-earth campaign tactics may so badly poison the Republican well that most Gingrich and Santorum supporters will refuse to get behind him and the GOP after the convention.

34 posted on 03/07/2012 9:30:16 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Mitt Romney is SEVERELY conservative - and I'm SEVERELY against giving him my vote!)
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To: COBOL2Java

RE: . By all means, vote for the slimeball Myth in November. He won’t win, anyway, so it really doesn’t matter.

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Well, with that, you’ve already conceded the presidency to Obama.

Funny you mentioned Mark Levin, because he said if Romney (God forbid) is the candidate, he’ll vote for him if only to prevent another Obama term. He thinks like me.


35 posted on 03/07/2012 9:35:29 AM PST by SeekAndFind (question)
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To: trisham

RE: Romney lies. Why would I believe that this one time he would tell the truth?

You don’t have to just as I am willing to. It’s all a matter of perception.

One thing is certain, we can’t both be right on this matter.

We can only find out of Romney (God forbid) gets elected over Obama.

Sometimes we are not given the choice of good vs evil, but two evils. I still believe Romney is the lesser evil of the two.


36 posted on 03/07/2012 9:38:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind (question)
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The FR Golden Gate Plan! => Post 55 "GOP Brokered Primary Now!" thread
37 posted on 03/07/2012 9:51:20 AM PST by Golden Gate
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To: SeekAndFind

If Romney is our candidate he will lose, but even if he won, we would gain nothing.


38 posted on 03/07/2012 9:52:53 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

RE: If Romney is our candidate he will lose,

I’m not going to argue this one, all I can tell you is this — I CAN ONLY TRY TO PREVENT A GREATER EVIL FROM PREVAILING.

RE: but even if he won, we would gain nothing.

Assuming Mitt wins, I will disagree with this. Repeal of Obamacare is NOT nothing.


39 posted on 03/07/2012 9:59:29 AM PST by SeekAndFind (question)
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To: FreeAtlanta

No problem... LOL

This made it worth the misplaced post— “donkey butt in chief.”


40 posted on 03/07/2012 10:00:02 AM PST by Gator113 (** President Newt Gingrich-"Our beloved republic deserves nothing less." ~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: SeekAndFind
Your happiness at getting the kenyan out of your life will live only till shortly past the Romney inauguration. Then your dissatisfaction will be compounded by the fact that you voted for a Republican socialist. The result after four years will be no different, perhaps worse because the Congress will be irretrievably in the hands of the Democrats.
41 posted on 03/07/2012 10:02:54 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: arthurus

RE: Your happiness at getting the kenyan out of your life will live only till shortly past the Romney inauguration

As opposed to what? Keeping him in my life? No thanks.


42 posted on 03/07/2012 10:04:43 AM PST by SeekAndFind (question)
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To: SeekAndFind

RE: Then your dissatisfaction will be compounded by the fact that you voted for a Republican socialist.

And this is worse than keeping a known marxist/socialist in office? No thanks.


43 posted on 03/07/2012 10:06:07 AM PST by SeekAndFind (question)
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To: SeekAndFind

You may repeat that as many times as you like, but Romney lies.


44 posted on 03/07/2012 10:08:38 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SeekAndFind

RE: perhaps worse because the Congress will be irretrievably in the hands of the Democrats.

Not if conservatives don’t sit this one out and vote for conservative people in Congress in large numbers.

Here’s another choice — LEAVE THE PRESIDENT’s NAME UNCHECKED and ONLY VOTE FOR A CONSERVATIVE SENATOR OR CONGRESSMAN.

That would at least mitigate a total disaster.

This is at least better than sitting the elections out.


45 posted on 03/07/2012 10:09:13 AM PST by SeekAndFind (question)
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To: trisham

RE: You may repeat that as many times as you like, but Romney lies.

Look who’s the one repeating his posts. I already know he lies. But I asked you before, show me one who never lies...

We’re not voting for saints or angels here. Only the LESSER of two evils if it ever boils down to Romney vs Obama.


46 posted on 03/07/2012 10:11:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind (question)
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To: SeekAndFind

If I were looking for a saint, I wouldn’t be voting at all.


47 posted on 03/07/2012 10:19:53 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: arthurus
With Romney as the candidate Republicans may have major losses in the House and not gain in the Senate. Many who would vote for a conservative presidential candidate will see no reason to vote for president and will stay home and thus not vote for Senators and Representatives either.

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You make a very good point.

48 posted on 03/07/2012 10:21:27 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

RE: If I were looking for a saint, I wouldn’t be voting at all.

How about this — given the choice between two evils, what would you do?

A) Stay home
B) Vote for the lesser of the two
C) Throw away your vote on someone who isn’t the nominee ( which is as good in practice a A above ).


49 posted on 03/07/2012 10:30:24 AM PST by SeekAndFind (question)
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To: SeekAndFind

ABO

I would vote for Charles Manson over thugbama if forced to at this point.


50 posted on 03/07/2012 10:39:08 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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