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Republicans worry about healthcare law repeal's impact on health programs
The Hill ^ | 3/7/12 | Julian Pecquet

Posted on 03/07/2012 1:59:14 PM PST by ColdOne

President Obama's healthcare reform law skews healthcare funding in a way that would put many of the nation's medical programs at risk if the law is repealed, the top Republican on the Senate Appropriations Health subcommittee warned Wednesday.

The remarks from Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.) are surprising because Republicans - including Shelby - have been calling for the law's repeal ever since it was passed. In his opening statement at a hearing on the Health and Human Services Department's proposed budget for FY 2013, Shelby suggested lawmakers should start taking a hard look at the impact of repealing the law as the Supreme Court this month prepares to hear hours of arguments for why it should strike it down.

"The administration has used the Affordable Care Act's mandatory spending, which is not subject to a vote by Congress every year, to backfill key discretionary programs," Shelby said in his opening remarks.

"The administration then diverts discretionary dollars to fund new programs. When the Affordable Care Act is repealed, many important programs like Community Health Centers and the [federal] Immunization program at the Centers for Disease Control will be in jeopardy because their base funding … has been so significantly reduced."

Shelby also raised concerns with the budget's flat-funding of medical research at the National Institutes of Health, at $31 billion. The administration says it is overhauling its NIH grant-making process in order to increase the number of new research grants.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aca; corruption; fraud; govtabuse; obama; obamacare; romneycare

1 posted on 03/07/2012 1:59:18 PM PST by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

They’re worried that if we take off the hangman’s noose, we’ll fall off the chair?

Cowards all.


2 posted on 03/07/2012 2:02:25 PM PST by lurk
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To: ColdOne
Obamacare was never about health care.

It was always about overwhelming the system.

An integral part of the plan was to create a monstrosity that would wreak havoc whether it was repealed or not.

3 posted on 03/07/2012 2:03:55 PM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: ColdOne

Paving the road for romney - “O’Romneycare”...coming to a government near you in November.


4 posted on 03/07/2012 2:05:58 PM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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To: ColdOne

That’s why you get the big paycheck, Senator. To fix messes like this.


5 posted on 03/07/2012 2:06:45 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ColdOne
With Romney, ObamaCARE is here for "good" (bad,actually).

IS THIS REALLY THE GREATEST MOMENT IN AMERICAN CONSERVATISM?

YOU ARE THERE

THE IMPOSITION OF OBAMACARE/ROMNEYCARE
AND DEATH PANELS BY MYTH ROMNEY,
THE “SWIMMER” AND THEIR TRAINED (INCARCERTED, TESTIFYING) FELON.


6 posted on 03/07/2012 2:06:45 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: ColdOne

Don’t worry we’ll get over it!
Just repeal the whole mess and consider any good part of any legislation.


7 posted on 03/07/2012 2:09:48 PM PST by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: ColdOne

I personally believe, that despite his promises to the contrary, a President Romney would decide that it would be too harmful to totally repeal Obamacare. He’ll do what he has said he would do before .... ‘keep the good parts’ .... and tinker around the edges with the rest. The cancer that is Obamacare has already metastasized into the system .... and into the brains of certain RINOs/Republicans/Romney.


8 posted on 03/07/2012 2:12:09 PM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: ColdOne

All he’s saying is that Obamacare diverted funds from other programs, and they will need to be restored if Obamacare is repealed. Seems rather obvious.

But I guess we can’t expect people to actually analyze information and do stuff in an intelligent manner.


9 posted on 03/07/2012 2:12:37 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: ColdOne

Last week John McDole was on Greta talking about repealing and replacing.......BSBSBSBS


10 posted on 03/07/2012 2:13:30 PM PST by CMailBag
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To: lurk
Shelby, is, of course, a FORMER Democrat politician who was actually elected as a Democrat.

Somebody here disputed my contention that this made Shelby a classic RINO.

Well, now you see it ~ Shelby is a RINO.

It's easier for a tiger to change its stripes than it is for a RINO to become a Conservative Republican.

11 posted on 03/07/2012 2:14:20 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Noob1999

Absolutely. Repeal the Damned thing and let us worry about that later.

We can fix anything in a short while without Obamacare.

What we cannot fix is what we will get if we keep it.


12 posted on 03/07/2012 2:14:40 PM PST by Venturer
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To: ColdOne

Just repeal it. We’ll take our chances.


13 posted on 03/07/2012 2:15:40 PM PST by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: ColdOne

Shelby is a converted Republican! Used to be Democrat!!!


14 posted on 03/07/2012 2:15:54 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: ColdOne
What do you expect from a Democrat Republican Democrat Republican?
15 posted on 03/07/2012 2:21:25 PM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: lurk
First 0bamacare was passed with only 24 hours to read and understand some 2,700 pages.

Now almost a year later a member of the LOYAL republican opposition worries, I repeat worries repealing it. Senator you are cya with excuses not to repeal or not to fund 0bama/Romneycare.

The only thing both parties are LOYAL to is getting REELECTED so they can feed at the taxpayers trough for another term.

16 posted on 03/07/2012 2:22:42 PM PST by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: ColdOne

Of course they cave (or lied-or both) Why should the feckless Republicans actually do anything that the vast majority of the American public want??


17 posted on 03/07/2012 2:23:27 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: tallyhoe

I am Alabama born and live here. Shelby is one of my senators. Shelby is a bum. I will claim Sessions. Not Shelby. EVERY and I mean EVERY thing that I have sent to the both of them and my congressman Mike Rogers has been answered by Sessions and Rogers. NEVER has Shelby responded to ANYTHING, NOTHING. SILENCE.


18 posted on 03/07/2012 2:25:02 PM PST by RetiredArmy (God is watching America. He is judging America. He does not like what He is seeing.)
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To: ColdOne

When adults look at this bill, they can see how its drafters knitted threads from it to every nook and government cranny they could to prevent repeal, or to make repeal painful. Adults will see past all that crap, and TRASH THE WHOLE GD THING. IF a lawmaker can not see that, then that lawmaker is a either a fool or a ‘Rat.


19 posted on 03/07/2012 2:25:34 PM PST by C210N
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To: ColdOne

And so the usual GOP crapfest begins.

If a mafia enforcer stood behind each one to ensure they kept their promises and did the right thing the gutless bastards would still equivocate and then fold.

This all amounts to the same situation as 1775; tyranny and taxation without real representation.


20 posted on 03/07/2012 2:26:47 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: ColdOne

Good time to start zero-based budgeting for all departments.


21 posted on 03/07/2012 2:31:33 PM PST by DallasDeb (usafa06mom)
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To: Williams

All he’s saying is that Obamacare diverted funds from other programs, and they will need to be restored if Obamacare is repealed.”

That may be what he thinks needs to happen but I don’t think that necessarily true. There is such an accounting mess in DC that we might be better off cancelling everything and starting over. It seems to take Congress five new laws or regs to fix one enacted previously and it generally ends up being worse than when it first began.


22 posted on 03/07/2012 2:37:00 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: ColdOne
He is not the only Repub to have said something like this. We talk about repealing it and they blink, and stammer, you mean throw out the whole thing?

This is a bill congress didn't write, they didn't read, no one wants, and yet you have Repubs afraid to repeal it.

God help us.

23 posted on 03/07/2012 2:53:02 PM PST by marron
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To: ColdOne

See - we can’t repeal it. It’s too important.

Now why don’t you little people go pay your taxes? We need raises. :)


24 posted on 03/07/2012 2:57:02 PM PST by Tzimisce (this sucks)
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To: ColdOne

Isn’t that so like a stinking politician; they proclaim a problem so they, the politicians can dump billions of our money into a solution that the people DO NOT WANT because it includes unaffordable/unconstitutional mandates and erodes the people’s liberties. The citizen outrage continues to grow so the politicians pander and say they will repeal the solution (only because they want to be reelected) and soon start admitting the solution is actually worse than the original problem. So it has now evolved to the political mantra that the solution can’t be repealed because repealing it will cost too much money and will create more problems and exacerbate the original problem. While they’re stepping in high cotton on our dime due to their laws and regulations we the people are left to wade neck deep in their created swill. Anybody else getting sick of this crap?


25 posted on 03/07/2012 3:07:35 PM PST by drypowder
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To: ColdOne

“The administration then diverts discretionary dollars to fund new programs. When the Affordable Care Act is repealed, many important programs like Community Health Centers and the [federal] Immunization program at the Centers for Disease Control will be in jeopardy because their base funding … has been so significantly reduced.”

DO YOUR JOB.


26 posted on 03/07/2012 3:08:19 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Burning the Quran is a waste of perfectly good fire.)
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To: ColdOne

And so it begins......


27 posted on 03/07/2012 3:12:02 PM PST by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: ColdOne

If our elected officials (most of them lawyers), had read the bill before passing it, they would have seen the poison pill in the contract.


28 posted on 03/07/2012 3:18:44 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: ColdOne
The GOP needs another name change.

Instead of simply the Stupid Party they now need to be known as The Stupid and Cowardly Party.

I think they are already the latter, but in the interest of truth in advertising, they need to make it official.

29 posted on 03/07/2012 3:25:21 PM PST by Gritty (Never, never, never, give in except to convictions of honor and good sense-Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: ColdOne
So we had to pass Obamacare to find out what was in the 2000+ pages of legislation. Now that we know it's carp, it is too late to fix major problems.

A massive number of people wrote, telephoned and emailed Congress to express their very negative views on Obamacare before it was deemed passed. As Ben Franklin put it, "a republic, if you can keep it".


30 posted on 03/07/2012 3:59:11 PM PST by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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To: ColdOne

This is actually an important note for conservatives.

An essential part of Obamacare was that it had to destroy Medicare, Medicaid, and other federal health care systems, so that it could absorb their functions. And this is probably the only successful thing Obamacare has accomplished. Those systems are in tatters.

So if the Republicans “just kill” Obamacare, it will result in a disaster. It has to be a “controlled demolition” to get rid of the damned thing, without suddenly throwing millions of people “out on the street”, with no support at all.

Republicans have to plan *right now* on how they are going to bring about an end to Obamacare “safely”.

This is terribly hard. They do not want to bring back Medicare and Medicaid, which are unstable and collapsing, so they must devise some stable replacement, with hopefully far less government involvement, until private systems can fill the gap.


31 posted on 03/07/2012 3:59:41 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: ColdOne
Translation: We have examined our campaign coffers and junkets and saw a substantial increase in Insurer donors {who stand to make Billions under Obamacare} during the past several quarters. As a result we concluded we will one and all sell out and hope the voters forget be election time. Thank for supporting the Democratic-GOP one Party System.
32 posted on 03/07/2012 4:02:24 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: ColdOne

Any bill to repeal it all could also return funding mechanisms to their previous state.

I swear these people are going to force this to end in bloodshed.


33 posted on 03/07/2012 4:12:04 PM PST by free me (heartless)
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To: DallasDeb

Good time to start zero-based budgeting for all departments.
______________________________________________________________

Excellent point! Though it’s always a good time for that most necessary reform.


34 posted on 03/07/2012 4:17:43 PM PST by free me (heartless)
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To: ColdOne
“backfill discretionary programs ...”

We can't afford and we do not need discretionary programs. I'd be quiet happy if those items enumerated in the Constitution were funded. No more, no less. The rest goes to the several States and the People.

35 posted on 03/07/2012 4:24:54 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Newt makes me want to become a better American. There are no bounds to greatness.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

YES! Totally agree. So shut up and fix it, SENATOR!


36 posted on 03/07/2012 4:33:33 PM PST by itssme
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To: MissMagnolia

>>I personally believe, that despite his promises to the contrary, a President Romney would decide that it would be too harmful to totally repeal Obamacare. He’ll do what he has said he would do before .... ‘keep the good parts’ .... and tinker around the edges with the rest.<<

And I personally believe that you’re absolutely correct. If the GOP nominates Romney, we’ll be better off with Obama as President for four more years because a GOP Congress can defund ObamaCare. But if Romney is President, we’ll get exactly what you fear, tinkering around the edges, because the GOP will fall in behind their “leader.”

Of course, four more years of Obama and maybe health care will be the least of our concerns.


37 posted on 03/07/2012 6:21:05 PM PST by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: Joe the Pimpernel

“It was always about overwhelming the system.”

Exactly; it was about destroying private-sector healthcare.


38 posted on 03/07/2012 6:23:13 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: Joe the Pimpernel; unkus; JLAGRAYFOX; justiceseeker93; gonzo; libertyhoundusnr; IrishMike; ...

Never Again? In my opinion, ObamaCare is Holocaust II with Death Panels instead of showers and wooden soap. Big Brother and his Big Sis will determine who lives and who dies. Anyone wonder what the Regime’s database has on each of us to decide if we get healthcare or a Hospice Pill? I’m sure being Freepers doesn’t add to our resumes.


39 posted on 03/07/2012 7:01:30 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Never Again? In my opinion, ObamaCare is Holocaust II with Death Panels instead of showers and wooden soap. Big Brother and his Big Sis will determine who lives and who dies. Anyone wonder what the Regime’s database has on each of us to decide if we get healthcare or a Hospice Pill? I’m sure being Freepers doesn’t add to our resumes.


There is no doubt in my mind that if he could get away with it, 0bama would make Hitler and Stalin look like Boy Scouts.

If 0bamacare is not repealed, the evil bastard is well on his way.

May God have Mercy on the United states.


40 posted on 03/07/2012 7:09:37 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: RetiredArmy

every once in awhile Shelby dawns his Democrat hat!! He cain’t hep it. He was born with his foot in his mouth!


41 posted on 03/07/2012 7:26:45 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: ColdOne

This is not the year and this is not the time...but, I think it is time for a new party. A truly realistic move toward a third party.

Our present two party system is broken and corrupt. I see people on both sides of the aisle that shouldn’t be sitting in the positions of power that they currently hold.

The Framers should have put term limits within the Constitution. Yes, we can vote them out. But, unfortunately, too many people in this country are disengaged from what is really going on in Washington.

This allows these politicians to continually grab power through their political machines and money bases. The average citizen cannot begin to run a viable political race against these individuals.

I don’t think our Founders ever envisioned this happening.


42 posted on 03/07/2012 7:53:58 PM PST by BlessingsofLiberty (BOYCOTT NEVADA...!!!!)
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To: Williams

There’s no need to impose any thinking on this thread. This is the emotive forum!


43 posted on 03/07/2012 9:09:58 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: lurk
Cowards all.

Nope, they were in on this from the get go, else Boehner would have defunded it. Instead he caught Bachman to keep the funding in, lying in the process.

44 posted on 03/08/2012 12:30:31 AM PST by itsahoot (Stolen Elections, Not Just For Democrats Anymore.)
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To: Joe the Pimpernel

>> Obamacare was never about health care.

That’s right. It’s about control.


45 posted on 03/08/2012 12:38:50 AM PST by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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