Skip to comments.The Rush Limbaugh LIVE Radio Show Thread - Thursday, March 8, 2012
Posted on 03/08/2012 7:42:18 AM PST by IMissPresidentReagan
Quick post Hubby's grandmother is not doing well so off to see her. Please send prayers. She's a real gem!
It’s very confusing. First, it’s hereditary so all the exercise in the world and eating cardboard does nothing. My Mother had very high cholesterol and never took any medicine. She died from lung cancer. My brother who eats great and stays in shape but has high chol. swears by Lipitor. Me, I’m undecided. Tried flaxseed once a day but doesn’t agree with me.
Inflammation. As Spock would say “fascinating.”
Heads up to you for the first part of Rush’s second hour today. It’s about the cholesterol controversy.
Sugar, flour, corn, sunflower ...all bad? ANyone know where this article is that Rush is reading?
I knew it!!! Fake foods (margarine) are killers! Pass the butter.
The sales pitch for the Dr’s book.
Author’s license revoked.
I’m afraid of butter....
Thanks for link! Honest...with husband’s “cocktail” of meds and instructions on eating (no “real”’eggs; no butter; lean, white meat or fish only) I called it “Frankenfoods” and was pretty much told THIS WAS THE SETTLED MEDICAL SCIENCE.
What Rush is describing is what Atkins said about fat and the Atkins diet.
I have to say you that my daughter, who has been an elite athlete, works out daily and follows a low fat diet with little red meat, has had high cholesterol since she was in college. Her body fat is extremely low, yet she has high cholesterol.
Meant to say my brother swears by Lipitor for years but still has relatively high chol.
I love butter and olive oil. Love sugar too though..and bread...and pasta ;) The family likes Olivio spread.
I have extremely low cholesterol, and I really like double-blind studies. There is good information here, but there is a danger in citing a doctor who has lost his license for the reasons stated. Rush should have vetted this guy first, and I sent an email to Rush saying so.
Reducing cholesterol isn’t going to work if you don’t cut back on carbs at the same time.
Dwight C. Lundell, M.D. lost medical license in 2008. Since that time he has been promoting books that clash with scientific knowledge of heart disease prevention and treatment.
What the hell is Rush pushing?
Rush talking now about cars. I have a Toyota Rav4 (the little SUV), and I love it. It gets better gas mileage than advertised, it carries everything I want to take anywhere, and it’s a real pleasure to drive.
Well, I think that Obama wants to run against Romney and I will tell you why.
Obamacare will fundamentally change the US and shackle each and everyone of us to the government.
I’m thinking that Obama isn’t going to let this opportunity go down in flames. I think that Obama is planning to back down on the federal mandate before the election, right after Romney gets the nomination. Obama will instead call for states to individually pass the mandate. Romney has already said that this was possible.
Romney will be left standing there stammering and stuttering with nothing to say. Obama will have won.
Dwight C. Lundell, M.D. lost medical license in 2008. Since that time he has been promoting books that clash with scientific knowledge of heart disease prevention and treatment. His book, The Great Cholesterol Lie, invites people to "forget about everything you have been told about low-fat diets, saturated fats, cholesterol and the causes of heart disease." According to The Great Cholesterol Lie Web site:
This article tells why I would not trust Lundell's advice.
After graduating from the University of Arizona Medical School in 1971, Lundell completed a one-year internship and two years of surgical residency in general surgery at the University Medical Center in Tucson, Arizona, followed by two years of residency in chest surgery at Yale University Medical Center in New Haven, Connecticut. He became certified in cardiothoracic surgery, which he practiced for about 25 more years.
|In 2007, Lundell began the Healthy Humans Foundation Blog, which stated that he was "refocusing" his career on the prevention and cure of heart disease . He also produced a book called The Cure for Heart Disease which, according to its description on Amazon Books, "is different than every other book exploring the number one killer of Americans" and is "a riveting yet straight forward discussion that challenges public consensus, explains the reasons for the epidemic of heart disease, and provides an easy to follow guide to eliminate heart disease."  A comment on the Amazon pageindicate that it advocates a high-protein, low-carbohydrate diet, low-dose aspirin, and fish oil and conjugated linoleic acid supplements for everyone.||
In 2004, the Healthy Humans Foundation issued a news release that plugged the book and said that Lundell had retired from the practice of surgery in 2004 .
Between 2000 and 2008, Lundell was subjected to five regulatory actions by the Arizona Medical Board:
Lundell also ran into considerable difficulty in his nonmedical affairs. Although the full records are not readily available, documents I found on the Internet indicate the following:
Lundell says he founded the Healthy Humans Foundation "to help the human race free themselves of chronic diseases such as obesity, diabetes, heart disease, mental disorders, and other diseases caused by improper nutrition and misleading consumer information."  I was unable to find an entry in the business listings of the Arizona Secretary State or the IRS's database of nonprofit organizations.
From 2007 through May 2010, Lundell was listed as an advisor to NourishLife, a company that markets vitamins, fish oil supplements, and conjugated linoleic acid supplements as "pharmaceutical grade" products claimed to help children with speech problems. After the Chicago Tribune criticized the products and mentioned that Lundell had lost his medical license , he was removed from the page of advisors on the NourishLife Web site.
Lundell's book, The Great Cholesterol Lie, is offered for $49.95 through The Truth About Health Disease Web site, which also invites people to sign up as members:
Dr. Lundell would like you to believe that he has special knowledge of heart disease prevention. I do not trust his advice.
This article was revised on September 21, 2011. quot;  A comment on the Amazon pageindicate that it advocates a high-protein, low-carbohydrate diet, low-dose aspirin, and fish oil and conjugated linoleic acid supplements for everyone.Grado G.
Interesting. But the facts he quotes in the article still stand, for instance:
Despite the fact that 25% of the population takes expensive statin medications and despite the fact we have reduced the fat content of our diets, more Americans will die this year of heart disease than ever before.
I don’t know, but he should have vetted this guy first.
Thanks for the link. I have taken myself off my statin prescription given to me due to chest pains, HDL too low and inflammation. I was always achy. I am totally free from soreness and working to regain my agility such as touching my toes while standing and head to knees. Food changes are key.
1. NO processed foods.
2. NO sugar and flour products.
3. I have dairy and meat sparingly - butter on baked sweet potatoes and cheese on salads. If I need something quick, I juice or eat raw vegetables. I never eat pork or bacon, chicken and beef are hormone free, antibiotic free, and grass fed.
I fear for my country but not because I think the GOP race is going on too long. I can only imagine how PO’d I would be if I lived in CA or TX and told I couldn't participate in the GOP primary because “we are splitting the vote” OR “we have to move on and focus on Obama”.
I tuned in late and caught only the tail end of the piece he was reading about inflammation in your arteries. Can you or anyone direct me to the article he was reading from? thanks!
Most of the complaints stem from poor record keeping. Also, what doctor, practicing for 25 years, hasn’t had a complaint or 2 about a surgical procedure.
Oh, I did. Not completely but a lot. I also walk 4-5 miles six days a week.
I hope this doesn’t come back to bite Rush.
We’re good, aren’t we? Man, what did this take, 10 minutes?
Why would any good FReeper automatically believe the Arizona Board of Medical Examiners?
I googled the doctor also. Piecing together several from several sites:
It seems he practiced medicine for 32 years and retired. In retirement, he began alternative medicine. He lost his license due to losing diction notes.?
IMHO...he was a target of mainstream medicine, big pharma, and food corporations.
My new diet keeps me out of the middle of the grocery store just veggies, fruits, some grain, some meat, and some diary.
Not that good. And this took me 5 minutes.
Dr. Stephen Barrett of Quackwatch Exposed In Court Cases
At trial, under a heated cross-examination by Negrete, Barrett conceded that he was not a Medical Board Certified psychiatrist because he had failed the certification exam.
This was a major revelation since Barrett had provided supposed expert testimony as a psychiatrist and had testified in numerous court cases. Barrett also had said that he was a legal expert even though he had no formal legal training.
The most damning testimony before the jury, under the intense cross-examination by Negrete, was that Barrett had filed similar defamation lawsuits against almost 40 people across the country within the past few years and had not won one single one at trial.
Subject: Quackwatch Founder Stephen Barrett loses Major Defamation trial in Hometown
In a stunning development, Lehigh Valley Pennsylvania Judge J. Brian Johnson on Thursday, October 13, 2005, tossed out nationally known self-proclaimed consumer medical advocate Stephen Barretts defamation lawsuit just minutes before it was going to be considered by a local jury.
The lawsuit, filed in August 2002, against also nationally known Pennsylvania chiropractor, lecturer, researcher and publisher, Stephen Barrett sought unspecified damages against Koren and his company, Koren Publications, Inc. for statements that he wrote in his newsletter in 2001 about Barrett.
Barrett, a long-time nemesis of chiropractic, filed the lawsuit because of Korens publication that Barrett was licensed and in trouble because of a $10 million lawsuit and because Barrett was called a Quackpot.
In his defense, Koren contended that the statements were true and not defamatory and that he had a First Amendment right to write them in his newsletter.
Thursdays ruling by Judge Johnson represented a major reversal of the finding of an arbitration in August 2004 wherein a panel of three local private attorneys reviewing the case had found in favor of Barrett and awarded Barrett $16,500 in damages and that Koren should publish a retraction. That award was appealed by Koren.
Dr. Koren was represented by well-known health freedom San Juan Capistrano, California, attorney Carlos F. Negrete for trial and Washington, D.C. attorney James Turner of Swankin & Turner. Easton, Pennsylvania attorney Christopher Reid of Laub, Seidel, Cohen, Hof & Reid served as local counsel for the team and was co-counsel for the trial along with Negrete.
Turner and Negrete have been well known for their representation of clients in the health food, supplement and vitamin industries as well as representing naturopaths, nurses, dentists, physicians, chiropractors and complimentary therapists across the country.
Turners experience dates back the 1960s when he joined consumer advocate Ralph Nader and was one of the groundbreaking Naders Raiders that made consumer advocacy popular and brought about significant changes in manufacturing and consumer protection.
In making the ruling to throw out the case, Judge Johnson granted a rare directed verdict to the jury finding there was insufficient evidence to support Barretts claims. Judge Johnson indicated that this case was one of those rare times where such a motion was appropriate.
Barrett operates the web site www.quackwatch.org , www.chirobase.org and 20 other web sites and has been a long time critic of chiropractic calling much of it”quackery”.
The victory to chiropractor Koren comes almost 18 years to the date that chiropractors received national attention with their victory against the American Medical Association (AMA) by obtaining an injunction against the AMA from an Illinois federal judge for engaging in illegal boycotting of doctors chiropractic in Wilk et al vs. AMA.
Barrett had been an outspoken supporter of the AMA at the same time that Koren had been a vocal advocate that the AMA has, in recent years, violated the spirit of the federal judges order.
After the ruling, Koren proclaimed that: I am overjoyed and enthusiastic that this nightmare is over and that the science, art and philosophy of chiropractic and the work of all of my colleagues have been vindicated.
This case took a toll on my life and family, but I knew that I was right in publishing the truth.
Dr. Barrett has no right to misinform the public about chiropractic and other natural healing arts or to try to silence anyone who criticizes him or tell consumers that he is not what he purports to be.
I believe that it is not right to be silent when there is a duty to inform the public and let the truth be told.
For years, Barrett has touted himself as a medical expert on quackery in healthcare and has assisted in dozens of court cases as an expert. He also was called upon by the FDA, FTC and other governmental agencies for his purported expertise.
He was the subject of many magazine interviews, including Time Magazine and featured on television interviews on ABCs 20/20, NBCs Today Show and PBS.
He has gained media fame by his outspoken vocal disgust and impatience over natural or non-medical healthcare, including his criticisms of two time Nobel Prize winner Linus Pauling.
Dr. Tedd Koren is known for his writings and lectures on chiropractic science, research, philosophy, and chiropractic patient adjusting.
He is known for his Koren Publications chiropractic patient education brochures, posters, booklets, books and other products that are used in chiropractors offices throughout the United States and around the world.
Dr. Koren also co-founded a chiropractic college, is on the extension faculty of two chiropractic colleges, is published in chiropractic and bio-medical journals and has received numerous awards in his field. His web sites include www.korenpublications.com and www.teddkorenseminars.com
In his 2001 newsletter, Koren published articles that revealed that even though he touted himself as a medical expert, Barrett had not been a licensed physician since the early 1990s.
He also published that Barrett had been the subject of a $10 million racketeering lawsuit [that had been withdrawn] and called him a quackpot for the contradiction of his website and lack of credentials.
Korens trial attorney, Carlos F. Negrete of San Juan Capistrano, California, is known for his defense of physicians, chiropractors, dentists, clinics and natural heath providers who practice what is known as complimentary & alternative medicine and holistic healthcare. Negrete has also handled groundbreaking cases against HMOs in California and has represented many celebrities and politicians.
At trial, under a heated cross-examination by Negrete, Barrett conceded that he was not a Medical Board Certified psychiatrist because he had failed the certification exam.
This was a major revelation since Barrett had provided supposed expert testimony as a psychiatrist and had testified in numerous court cases.
Barrett also had said that he was a legal expert even though he had no formal legal training.
The most damming testimony before the jury, under the intense cross-examination by Negrete, was that Barrett had filed similar defamation lawsuits against almost 40 people across the country within the past few years and had not won one single one at trial.
During the course of his examination, Barrett also had to concede his ties to the AMA, Federal Trade Commission (FTC) and Food & Drug Administration (FDA).
This was not the first time that Negrete was a trial attorney in a Barrett case. He also represented anti-fluoridation advocate Darlene Sherrell in a federal lawsuit filed in Eugene, Oregon by Barrett.
Barrett also lost in trial of that case. Negrete also represented Robert King of King Bio Natural Medicine of North Carolina and MediaPower (manufacturers of CalMax and Nu-Zymes) of Maine in cases filed by an organization led by Barrett, which were lost by Barrett’s organization.
Barrett has also filed a lawsuit against Negrete and his client Dr. Hulda Clark (author of The Cure for All Diseases and The Cure for All Cancers) , which is now pending and awaiting trial in San Diego, California federal court.
After the Koren trial, Negrete stated: The de-bunker has been de-bunked. I am pleased and satisfied with this outcome for Dr. Koren and am proud that Dr. Koren did not succumb to the pressures of the intimidation of Barretts legal wrangling. Not everyone can stand up to someone as well known as Barrett.
Negrete continued, It is another great day for health freedom and alternative healthcare around the world. I am especially pleased that this most important victory was in Barretts own hometown. It just goes to show you that there is justice anywhere, even when you are a visitor challenging the home team.
Barrett is a shill for the medical and pharmaceutical cartels and his bully tactics and unjustified discrediting of leading innovators, scientists and health practitioners should not be tolerated.
Negrete said, You can be assured that our legal team will be wherever health freedom advocates and practitioners are being persecuted. The tide is now turning and people are no long accepting that synthetic drugs are the only form of treatment are the only way to address health concerns.
“Every day, consumers are becoming more educated about the benefits of holistic and alternative methods. This is something that the medical establishment obviously fears and wants to crush with false propaganda.
Koren said that he would now go back to his home in Pennsylvania to spend more time with his family and continue to write, research, and lecture on topics concerning chiropractic and healthcare and the experiences he has gained from this precedent setting legal battle.
He plans to give new lectures to chiropractors across the country who are under attack or have been subjected to governmental actions.
He also announced that he is forming a new organization aimed at informing and assisting chiropractors across the country.
The trial started on Monday, October 10, 2005 and ended on October 13, 2005 Barrett was represented by local Allentown attorney, Richard Orloski.
There are many reasons for losing a license. The facts are still facts. Agreed.
Good work, bluerose. I think that what the good Dr. Lundell says is probably true (although I am no doctor, nor do I play one on TV.) I dislike self-appointed truth policemen, like this Dr. Barrett, a psychiatrist who does not have the depth of knowledge to be trustworthy on a subject such as this.
In 2003, the board noted that 13 out of 20 charts reviewed by the consultant were deficient because they did not include adequate initial evaluations of the patients. Lundell was censured again and was placed on probation that included quarterly chart reviews .
In 2004, the board found fault with his management of two patients and concluded that his records for these patients were inadequate. He was reprimanded and ordered to serve two more years of probation, during which he was required to undergo an extensive evaluation of his fitness to continue practicing medicine .
In 2006, the board sent him an advisory letter for failure to maintain adequate records and for a technical surgical error .
In 2008, the board reviewed Lundell's management of several more patients and revoked his medical license. The board's order indicated that the board began investigating his care of seven patients after the Banner Desert Medical Hospital suspended Lundell's surgical privileges .
Financial and Legal Trouble
And that doesn't include the bankruptcies, and tax evations. This is more than bad record keeping and a couple of complaints, including the dead guy.
I just think Rush should have vetted the guy first before getting behind it. It may come back to bite him.
Prayers to her...
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Who's winning?? Will history repeat itself??
Thanks and I think Barret should add himself to his list:
“At trial, under a heated cross-examination by Negrete, Barrett conceded that he was not a Medical Board Certified psychiatrist because he had failed the certification exam. “
Obama or a RINO LIBERAL?? God BLESS the USA... we need it!!!
I love my Rav4 too!! great little SUV
Where do they find these people?
They get them in the LIBERAL version of the ZOO...the Universities!!!
Yes, I saw and read that the first time. Did you see my post on Barrett? Here’s another:
Quackbusters Are Busted!
Though they seem to have more lives than a cat, it seems likely that Quackbusters will be down for the count.
by Heidi Stevenson
25 July 2010
Stephen Barrett is a retired psychiatrist and hires himself out as an “expert” to testify against non-mainstream medical practitioners. He is a retired psychiatrist, though he was never certified because he didn’t pass the board examinations. In America, once licensed as a physician, it’s legal to practice any type of medicine desired. Simply take a look at the storefront self-styled plastic surgeons doing liposuction and other plastic surgery.
Barrett was terminated from a part time position by the Pennsylvania State Mental Hospital in 1993 and, in a profession that has supposedly been very short staffed for more than two decades, he was unable to find work. He turned his medical license in and retreatedsome say to his basement.
Please understand that I would never make fun of someone’s misfortunes in normal circumstances. In Barrett’s case, though, an exception needs to be made. He has done enormous harm to anyone who advocates or practices non-mainstream medicine. He has hired himself out as an expert to testify against such practitioners, and he has been the mouthpiece for Big Pharma’s attack on anything that isn’t manufactured and sold by them.
In other words, the California Supreme Court found that Barrett and Sampson were using the court system to operate a self-enrichment scam! Barrett and his partner in crime, Sampson, were attempting to enrich themselves by destroying the reputations and livelihoods of alternative healthcare practitioners.
In Canada, Barrett admitted to claims made by a plaintiff(3) that:
The sole purpose of the activities of Barrett & Baratz are to discredit and cause damage and harm to health care practitioners, businesses that make alternative health therapies or products available, and advocates of non-allopathic therapies and health freedom.
Barrett has interfered with the civil rights of numerous Americans, in his efforts to have his critics silenced.
Barrett has strategically orchestrated the filing of legal actions in improper jurisdictions for the purpose of frustrating the victims of such lawsuits and increasing his victims costs.
Barrett failed the exams he was required to pass to become a Board Certified Medical Doctor.
Stephen Barrett founded and has been the figurehead of Quackbusters since its inception. What more should anyone require to acknowledge Quackbusters’ lack of their authenticity?
Where Has Barrett’sand Quackbusters’Funding Come From?
Barrett has launched at least 14 expensive legal actions at a single time, cases that can be assumed to cost at least $100,000 each to pursue. In the Federal Court in Oregon, he was forced to respond to questions about his income.
In two years’ time, Barrett had made a total of $54,000.
Where did Barrett get the money to pursue so many cases? Thus far, no one seems to have found the hard proof, but it’s obvious that the backing for his nefarious machinations has been Big Pharma and Big Medicine, which seek to drive any and all competition out of business and make them illegal.
Chu doesn’t need to own a car.
He’s riding around in the very highest style (and expense) all on our great-grandkids’ very last dime.
(And I’d kinda like to stop by next January and take every bit of it out of his hide.)
he has others drive him .....
UConn lost. Oh well.
Syracuse won, but it was a fun down to the wire game.
Romney is a moderate at best and he is proclaimed as a right-wing radical by leftists! Exactly, Rush!!
Rush now asking who was the last great Republican Moderate who ran on a campaign of moderation and won. Says that Nixon was the last and boy, did the left love him! He blew up govt and what did the left do? Brought about impeachment.
Yes, it was...many fingernails were lost on both sides. :-)
Voted for John Effing Kerry and supports Santorum?
I call BS!
I’m taking everything with a grain of salt. My ex takes these medicines, and for a while his feet were so swollen he couldn’t wear socks, wearing them hurt so bad. And he seemed exhausted all the time. On the other hand, the blood pressure attack damn near killed him. If I’m going to recommend something to him, it needs to be perfectly correct. His life is, literally, at stake.
Now Rush is doing a Life Lock ad. I guess they are still with him.