Posted on 03/08/2012 10:20:32 AM PST by SeekAndFind
We have Barry - you think voters are voting from knowledge and truth? LOL!!
In elections Santorum does terribly with women.
In his 2006 reelection effort for his Senate seat, he got 39% of the female vote.
RE: In elections Santorum does terribly with women.
WHICH ELECTIONS? He won several and lost one.
You’re only showing the 2006 elections, a terrible year for Republicans where they lost BOTH houses by a huge margin.
What about 1994 and 2000? and his two congressional elections? All of which he won.
You tell me how Santorum did in 1994, the year before he started campaigning in support of making the Republican party pro-abortion, 3 years before campaigning for the pro-abortion Whitman, or how he did in 2000, after he and Specter had lost that fight to make Republicans pro-abortion, and 4 years before he was fighting for Specter again.
Santorum was destroyed in 2006, the election after his never ending support for the radical pro-abortion Specter over the pro-life conservative.
No republican lost like Santorum, most of them lost by 1 or 2 points. Santorum broke records with an incredible, massive, 18 point loss.
Thanks, Lauren!
Nobody WON, like Santorum:
“Two years later, he (Santorum) won 61 percent of the vote even as President George H.W. Bush lost his district by 22 points — an astounding result, really.”
And Rick Santorum won 4 out of 5 races.
btw, Reagan won in a landslide AFTER losing a race.
A lot changed from winning a good election in a Congressional district in 1992, and breaking records in a landslide loss as he was run out of his Senate seat in 2006.
Maybe it was his never ending support for liberal, pro-abortion candidates.
Three years after that 1992 election that you are so proud of, Rick Santorum was endorsing a campaign to force the Republican party to stop being pro-life.
Santorum was campaigning for a Presidential candidate running on this plank. “”“In 1996, I intend to win the other house — the White House — with ten commitments to America… including a woman’s right to choose…”” I pledge to lead the fight to strip the strident anti-choice language from the Republican National platform…””
Santorum admits that he had been pro-abortion all of his life, until he switched in preparation to launch his political career.
Reagan was never kicked out of an office, or lost a general election, or failed to be reelected, you are talking about Presidential primaries which nobody refers to as losing "elections".
RE: Whitman
Who was the alternative to Whitman in NJ? ANS: Jim Florio ( an even more pro-choice candidate). As I said, you are not always given the choice between two palatable candidates. You have to choose the lesser of the two evils. That does not make Santorum ( who was and still is a stalwart in defending the unborn) pro-choice ( as you would want to imply ).
And look what Whitman did in NJ, SHE REVERSED MANY OF FLORIO’s devastating tax policies.
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RE: Arlen Specter (again)
1) Specter SUPPORTED Santorum in ALL his candidacy, from Congress to Senate ( all 16 years ). You expect Santorum to turn traitor on someone who stalwartly supported him for 16 years? Hey, why did Sarah Palin, Tea Party darling, support John “Amnesty” McCain in Arizona over his tea party supported opponent? Same answer — LOYALTY.
That doesn’t imply that Santorum is pro-choice.
2) And let’s talk about Arlen Specter ( the pro-choice senator ).
Well, how do we like Justice Clarence Thomas? He’s about my favorite member of the Supreme Court. But it was Sen. Specter who cut Anita Hill’s testimony to pieces in the Judiciary Committee hearings in 1991. Without Specter’s evisceration of Miss Hill’s inconsistencies, it is highly doubtful that Thomas would have survived.
SO, Pro-life, originalist, Catholic, conservative CLARENCE THOMAS became Supreme Court justice partly BECAUSE Arlen Specter FOUGHT for him. And guess what? SANTORUM CITED THIS IN HIS CAMPAIGN FOR SPECTER.
I’ll never forget watching the confirmation vote on Justice Thomasthat night. Hollywood’s Ted Danson was sitting right in front of me, gripping the brass rail. His knuckles went white, and the large bald spot on the back of his head went red, as Thomas’s nomination was approved by the thin margin of 52-48. And yes, Arlen Specter VOTED and FOUGHT FOR HIM.
Later that night, Sen. Specter strode over to the den of that lion of the right, Paul Weyrich, to receive the plaudits of grateful conservatives.
So, what did Specter do after Rick Santorum endorsed him in 2004? Do we remember the 2005 hearings for John Roberts and Sam Alito? Chairman Specter skillfully guided both of those worthy gentlemen to seats on the Supreme Court.
I knew that it was by no means assured that they would get though the Kennedy-Biden-Leahy-Schumer gauntlet of the Judiciary Committee.
But they did. And we can thank Arlen Specter for that. He ruled the narrowly divided Judiciary Committee with a firm hand. He put Ted Kennedy down, sharply. That was a joy to see. And all the while, Specter was undergoing chemo and radiation for a brain tumor!
I agree with all my conservative friends. I don’t like Arlen Specter. I wish we had not had to support him ever. But Ronald Reagan backed the infinitely worse Lowell Weicker of Connecticut (who gave the state its INCOME TAX when it formerly had none ) and got nothing from Weicker in return ( and where are the condemnation of Ronald Reagan for this? NOTHING BUT SILENCE ).
So nope, ONE SUPPORT OF ARLEN SPECTER WHO DID MANY GOOD THINGS FOR THE CONSERVATIVE CAUSE ( 3 Justices of the SCOTUS owe their confirmation to his fighting for them and many other judges in the lower courts ), does not support your notion that Santorum is a fake conservative.
Sometimes, looking at things in perspective goes a long way.
RE: Reagan was never kicked out of an office, or lost a general election, or failed to be reelected, you are talking about Presidential primaries which nobody refers to as losing “elections”.
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Your argument looks like this — If a Politician loses a race either the presidential race or the race in his state, his career is at an end and he is thus, un-electable.
For a refutation of that see — Nixon, Richard.
The man lost in 1960 vs Kennedy and then went on to LOSE the governor election in California in 1962. You know the rest of the story.
Wrong. Santorum has to wait until Newt is out of the water with very little chance of winning - that's their plan all along. If Santorum dropped out now, Newt would over take Mitt in a NY minute. Mitt isn't cruising anywhere as long as Newt is in it.
You can’t legislate people’s behavior. Their hearts have to be changed. The church does that, not the BIG gov’t candidate.
It’s the economy, stupid. Newt already balanced the federal budge 4 times with the democratic president.
I’ll take the PROVEN DOER not a BIG gov’t talker. THE GOP E will never get my vote and Santorum is/has always backed the GOP E.
You got the truth back to your 'follow the leader' approach - if some paid entertainer like Levin supported him it must be right.
So much for having a discussion.
So much for thinking for yourself. You are the media's and the advertisers who support them - dream. They do it because it works every time. The clueless masses go willingly off a cliff with their propaganda - just give them a talking head that they believe in and we got them.
And the GOP E takes care of trashing who they will (any proven conservative, Newt and Sarah) and they get what they want - NO ONE ROCKS THEIR BOAT!
And WeThePeople are defeated once again by those who 'follow the leader' instead of thinking for themselves.
You asked the question “Who would...?”
And I answered your question “Mark Levin.”
And I answered BIG DEAL - a sponsor paid talking head with restrictions for paycheck.
Ain't that the truth...
See Newt sit...
See Newt chat...
Santorum was a sitting Senator running for reelection, and he was dumped in a history making 18 point rejection.
Santorum is the guy who endorsed this party platform in 1996.
"In 1996, I intend to win the other house — the White House — with ten commitments to America… including a woman’s right to choose.” "I pledge to lead the fight to strip the strident anti-choice language from the Republican National platform"
RE: Even Nixon was never defeated in a history making landslide as an incumbent, so I don’t know what your point was
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My Point was 2006 was an ABERRATION.
I’m not at all confident that Pat Toomey could have carried Pennsylvania that year, as President Bush was losing the state to John Kerry.
When we ask what Reagan would do, it might be helpful to
recall what Reagan actually did. So now, if we get Rick Santorum in the White House, Pat Toomey in the Senate, and Arlen Specter in retirement, why can’t we conservatives be happy?
Who was the alternative to the rabidly pro-abortion Specter in 1996, and 2004?
Would you support this agenda? Watch the video.
This is the video of Specter’s announcement and platform, Santorum is there on stage endorsing it.
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/64281-1
Santorum is seen nodding and applauding at Specter’s side:
3:46 mark: “In 1996, I intend to win the other house — the White House — with ten commitments to America… including a woman’s right to choose…
13:22 mark: “Even though we have this historic opportunity for these achievements, there are those in our party who would lead us down a different path — and squander this unique moment in our nation’s history — by using our political capital — to pursue a radical social agenda — that would end a woman’s right to choose…
13:48 mark: “When Pat Robertson says there is no constitutional doctrine of separation between Church and State, I say he is wrong…
14:31 mark: “When Ralph Reed says a pro-choice Republican isn’t qualified to be our President, I say the Republican Party will not be intimidated or blackmailed by those kinds of threats.I, and millions of other pro-choice Republicans, will not be disenfranchised and made second class citizens.
15:33 mark: “… it is not Christian, or religious, or Judeo-Christian to bring God into politics; or to advocate intolerance and promote exclusion.
15:54 mark: “I want to take abortion out of politics. I want to keep the Republican Party focused on the vital economic and foreign policy issues — and leave moral issues such as abortion to the conscience of the individual. I believe abortion is an issue to be decided by women…
16:40 mark: “I pledge to lead the fight to strip the strident anti-choice language from the Republican National platform…”
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