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Pat Robertson: Pot should be legal like alcohol
Associated Press ^ | Thursday, Mar. 8, 2012 | MICHAEL FELBERBAUM

Posted on 03/08/2012 9:21:14 PM PST by Mariner

RICHMOND, Va. -- Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson says marijuana should be legalized and treated like alcohol because the government's war on drugs has failed.

The outspoken evangelical Christian and host of "The 700 Club" on the Virginia Beach-based Christian Broadcasting Network he founded said the war on drugs is costing taxpayers billions of dollars. He said people should not be sent to prison for marijuana possession.

The 81-year-old first became a self-proclaimed "hero of the hippie culture" in 2010 when he called for ending mandatory prison sentences for marijuana possession convictions.

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Well idn't that the darndest thing...

Yes, it's front page news in the culture wars.

1 posted on 03/08/2012 9:21:17 PM PST by Mariner
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To: Mariner

Why not heroin,pcp,rat poison?


2 posted on 03/08/2012 9:24:05 PM PST by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: Mariner; a fool in paradise
Tomorrow's headlines today:

Potty Pat Pops: Legalize Pat!


3 posted on 03/08/2012 9:25:33 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Mariner
Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson says marijuana should be legalized and treated like alcohol because the government's war on drugs has failed.

Even Pat Robertson can see that - who can't at this point?
4 posted on 03/08/2012 9:25:38 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Mariner

If a drug is likely to lead someone to harming others, that is a justification for banning it.

It seems like marijuana and painkillers don’t fit into that category.


5 posted on 03/08/2012 9:25:47 PM PST by DNA.2012
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To: Mariner

You think he is voting for Ron Paul?


6 posted on 03/08/2012 9:27:20 PM PST by Linda Frances (Only God can change a heart, but we can pray for hearts to be changed.)
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To: DNA.2012
If a drug is likely to lead someone to harming others, that is a justification for banning it.

You mean like alcohol?
7 posted on 03/08/2012 9:28:17 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: DNA.2012

Have you seen what people will do to get painkillers? Even those that are prescribed it? But using your logic we should ban alcohol?


8 posted on 03/08/2012 9:28:43 PM PST by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: Linda Frances

Can you post something to which an appropriate response would be: “Lighten up, Frances!” !


9 posted on 03/08/2012 9:29:50 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: fr_freak

The truth is that if alcohol was discovered in the past 50 years, every nation would ban it and it would be a schedule 1 drug.


10 posted on 03/08/2012 9:30:59 PM PST by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: Mariner

Never met a dope smoking dope that I would hire or associate with.


11 posted on 03/08/2012 9:31:19 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Mark
Actually rat poison is legal now.

That said, I don't care how people choose to die and there don't appear to be any short-term health effects to people who smoke it. It probably costs less in the "taxpayer/debt funded medical system" than Pepsi does.

The enforcement of the law costs FAR MORE than any conceivable benefit to society.

Especially within the context of the hundreds, if not thousands of SWAT teams nationwide it has funded.

For what?

So some folks could tell some other folks how to live...when they harm no other person?

To me it's somewhat amazing the "tellers" haven't all been killed off yet.

12 posted on 03/08/2012 9:31:26 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: DNA.2012
"If a drug *product* is likely to lead someone to harming others, that is a justification for banning it."

I know you just said it but I just want to ask, does this sentence make sense to you?

13 posted on 03/08/2012 9:31:26 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Mariner

Mellowing out in his later years?

It makes more sense to a theologically minded person than one who is anchored solely in realpolitik. The bible warns against the usage of medicinal herbs for the purpose of communing with magical spirits, but there seems to be very little or none of this going on with marijuana. (Something like iboga would be another story.) That leaves it as basically another intoxicant, like wine, with the same issues that go with any intoxicant. Driving stoned should be no more tolerated than driving drunk, although we have no widespread measure of how stoned stoned is.


14 posted on 03/08/2012 9:31:39 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Revolting cat!

Excuse me, all I said was “do you think he’s voting for Ron Paul”???


15 posted on 03/08/2012 9:32:39 PM PST by Linda Frances (Only God can change a heart, but we can pray for hearts to be changed.)
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To: Proud2BeRight
"Never met a dope smoking dope that I would hire or associate with."

There are a number of groups I don't want to be associated with but is it your job to choose who you associate with or governments job?

16 posted on 03/08/2012 9:34:23 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Linda Frances

Thank you, my post was intended as a joke, so... Lighten Up, Frances!


17 posted on 03/08/2012 9:34:35 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Mariner

This modern drug prohibition has FAILED.(as the alcohol prohibition did)

What we are doing in an attempt to mitigate drug use, and the criminal enterprise that has grown around it is far worse than drug use itself. LEARN from history. We’re dammed fools for allowing this to continue.


18 posted on 03/08/2012 9:35:48 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: KoRn

So I should be able to go to Rite Aid and buy a 12 pack of Coke and 5 rails of Coke?


19 posted on 03/08/2012 9:36:58 PM PST by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: Proud2BeRight
"Never met a dope smoking dope that I would hire or associate with."

You probably associate with 1/2 dozen and don't even know it.

At my company we decided to stop testing for marijuana.

It was eliminating many of our best employees and candidates. We don't test pre employment or at any time thereafter.

We're the best around.

20 posted on 03/08/2012 9:38:18 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Pat is getting good at taking patently stupid positions as of late. I wonder if he has an itch for some media attention.

“Pat Robertson: GOP Base Is Becoming Too Extreme”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2797397/posts


21 posted on 03/08/2012 9:38:33 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Mariner

In many ways I agree. I think libs would be dying at a faster rate. Just my guess. But the CHILRUN! That worries me. But then SWAT can take them out.


22 posted on 03/08/2012 9:39:32 PM PST by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: LukeL

Why not? Knock yourself out, as long as you aren’t harming anyone else in the process.(driving under the influence, or in public laws should apply)


23 posted on 03/08/2012 9:39:39 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: LukeL
As most already know Coke was made with Coke. Didn't seem to bother anyone then. They should have at the least told us what is in it though.

if you want to regulate it fine. Do what you want. I like the old concept of freedom myself.

24 posted on 03/08/2012 9:42:32 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Mariner

I’ve been giving this issue some serious consideration and wondering what the potential consequences could be. Maybe I’m naive, but could legalizing marajuana also help reduce illegal immigration?

Much of the Northern part of Mexico is rampant with drug cartels and the violence and corruption inherently associated with such. Many illegal immigrants come to Texas to escape the violence, corruption, and decaying cities/towns of Northern Mexico. If marajuana were legal, perhaps the drug cartels would embrace free-market capitalism and the violence and corruption in Mexico would decrease. Mexicans might then be able to create a life for themselves in their own cities and towns. They might even begin to prosper in time.

(It was just a thought. Don’t freak out.)


25 posted on 03/08/2012 9:42:40 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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The drug war has long been over and has turned into a war on our rights.

All of the same arguments the drug warriors use can be used for banning guns. And all of the Wild West, blood-in-the-streets scenarios won’t happen when drugs are decriminalized and legalized.

Decriminalization is an inevitability. Some 12 states, even the Statist State of Mass., have decriminalized or are moving to decriminalize possession and use of pot.

The super-majority controlled Republican House of New Hampshire just voted in favor of decriminalization of pot:

http://www.unionleader.com/article/20120308/NEWS06/120309913

10+ years of study here on Portugal’s experiment:

http://www.cato.org/publications/white-paper/drug-decriminalization-portugal-lessons-creating-fair-successful-drug-policies


26 posted on 03/08/2012 9:42:55 PM PST by AlmaKing
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Even Pat Robertson can see that - who can't at this point?

It took a bout of senility for Robertson to come out with this. Frankly, anyone who thinks legalizing drugs would be good for society isn't playing with a full deck. As if the rot in our culture isn't pervasive enough, we want to make it even worse by taking the drug culture mainstream.

Ask yourself this. If the country has a liberal-tarian brain infarction and legalizes drugs, what's to keep the big recreational drug companies that spring up from advertising their products everywhere? Answer: Nothing. There will be big *legal* money involved and the drug purveyors will get whatever they want.

The day that happens is the day I start looking to emigrate.
27 posted on 03/08/2012 9:44:10 PM PST by Antoninus (In states where Newt is ahead, vote Newt. In states where Rick is ahead, vote Rick. Defeat Romney.)
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To: KoRn
This modern drug prohibition has FAILED.(as the alcohol prohibition did)

LOL. Want to see "failure"? Legalize drugs and watch what happens to this country. It will be uninhabitable by decent people.
28 posted on 03/08/2012 9:46:20 PM PST by Antoninus (In states where Newt is ahead, vote Newt. In states where Rick is ahead, vote Rick. Defeat Romney.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
"Much of the Northern part of Mexico is rampant with drug cartels and the violence and corruption inherently associated with such. "

According to PBS a couple of years ago (Lisa Ling did a special on pot) marijuana still amounts to over 60% of Mexican Drug cartel profits. These cartels also spoil public lands, kill intruders and import illegals with guns. The money is the foundation of their organization.

Over pot. Something at least 60% of America has used at least once and something 60% of America would use again if it were legal.

Already estimates are that those in the 3 West Coast states use at 25% at least once a year.

It is very, very common. I guess that makes all these people common criminals.

29 posted on 03/08/2012 9:48:31 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Yes, and Sears also sold a personal morphine/heroin kit. There are somethings which are too dangerous for anyone to do. This is why certain drugs are only given in a hospital or first tried in a hospital like sotalol


30 posted on 03/08/2012 9:49:38 PM PST by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: Mariner

Legalize it. I won’t use it.


31 posted on 03/08/2012 9:50:25 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Mariner; All
Thalimid or Thalidomide is used by cancer patients to reduce nausea.

You might remember the birth defects that drug caused, in England, when it was used there for morning sickness in women, years ago.

The stuff costs about $12,000.00 a month.

A Law Enforcement officer client of mine made me aware of how ridiculous this was. He had cancer.

He asked, “Can you think of anything cheaper, and safer, that might give me the munchies?”

Thalidomide is expensive because, if you drop a single pill, and a pregnant woman picks up that pill to place it on the counter, that woman's child is at HIGH risk for birth defects, just from the poison absorbed through her skin.

32 posted on 03/08/2012 9:51:20 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: Antoninus
"Frankly, anyone who thinks legalizing drugs would be good for society isn't playing with a full deck."

The suggestion is to legalize pot, not drugs. Well, unless you consider coffee and wine drugs. Or even opium.

However, whether you consider it rational for society or not, it appears inevitable. I'd like to hear all candidates position on the matter.

33 posted on 03/08/2012 9:51:57 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: All

This jackass still alive?... smoking the weed?...


34 posted on 03/08/2012 9:53:09 PM PST by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church in protecting our culture from perversion is ** DEAFENING **)
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To: Mariner

It’s legal in Switzerland. But, I guess, the Swiss are just stupid.


35 posted on 03/08/2012 9:53:12 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Proud2BeRight

Never met a dope smoking dope that I would hire or associate with.


I’d say you have associated with pot smokers but you didn’t realize it.

I smoke a little pot on occasion {probably once a year} and enjoy it. But I don’t get stoned. Just a “buzz” and that’s it.

Don’t freak out, man. LOL


36 posted on 03/08/2012 9:53:33 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Mariner

“The three religions of the Book, Judaism, Christianity and Islam, are not well known for having drug cultures associated with them, so it comes as something as a surprise to learn that Islam, perhaps the most puritanical of the three, has a strong undercurrent of marijuana use throughout its long history.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/ID11Ak03.html


37 posted on 03/08/2012 9:53:47 PM PST by ansel12
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To: Mariner

Please see my Post 36.


38 posted on 03/08/2012 9:55:40 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: ansel12
"throughout its long history."

It's definitely a cultural issue.

Pot has been around as an intoxicant to man for at least 5,000 years. It reaches back there with alcohol.

39 posted on 03/08/2012 9:56:24 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

I may take up Pot smokin if Obama wins again.


40 posted on 03/08/2012 9:59:07 PM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take?)
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To: Mariner

Pat lost it a long time ago.....


41 posted on 03/08/2012 9:59:26 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Antoninus

Do you honestly believe there are people NOT doing drugs right now because they are illegal? I seriously doubt it.

The laws and their effects on our freedoms are ruinous, not to mention the entire black market(s) and the additional violence they bring are even worse.


42 posted on 03/08/2012 9:59:46 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: LukeL
The truth is that if alcohol was discovered in the past 50 years, every nation would ban it and it would be a schedule 1 drug.

No doubt. And the number of no-knock raids and dogs and grandmas shot by SWAT would skyrocket. Because government knows what's best for us, whether we like it or not.
43 posted on 03/08/2012 9:59:55 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: Mariner

Dude, marihuana, coca, are Almighty God’s creations while alcohol, Internet, and Las Vegas aren’t!


44 posted on 03/08/2012 10:00:19 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
if we had a responsible human race, everything should be legal....but we don't...

we have perverts attacking women when they can get any fix they want for money or over the internet....yet women are raped....

we have people who can get prescribed narcotics and then demand more....demand to smoke the stuff.....

humans are not reliable....humans are weak and some are evil....

legalize pot...but we'll have just as many people in jail...

alcohol is always blamed by libertarians for all the car accidents, but the dirty little secret is many people who use alcohol also are using weed or other drugs, however those are not usually tested for....

45 posted on 03/08/2012 10:00:23 PM PST by cherry
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To: unkus

My dad, a proud Korea vet and Teamster smoked it to the day he died.


46 posted on 03/08/2012 10:00:45 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

One of the few things I’d agree with Pat over...well said.


47 posted on 03/08/2012 10:02:05 PM PST by MissouriConservative (Voting "None of the Above" in 2012.)
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To: Revolting cat!

...and Holland.


48 posted on 03/08/2012 10:02:26 PM PST by EEGator
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To: DNA.2012

There is plenty of harm caused to others by a persons use of drugs. The only reason to take them is to get high. Chasing that high leads to endless pain and misery for the users family and friends. There is the lying, the stealing (because they need the fix), and eventually the theft and other illegal activities that go along with it. If you live as a hermit and never have ANY contact with another human being then you could make the argument, not otherwise


49 posted on 03/08/2012 10:02:52 PM PST by Nifster
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To: fr_freak

sure but they tried that once already


50 posted on 03/08/2012 10:03:26 PM PST by Nifster
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