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UNIVERSITY OF ROCHESTER ECONOMIST: Rush Limbaugh Is Right, Sandra Fluke Is A 'Prostitute'
Business Insider ^ | Mar. 8, 2012, 5:29 PM | Grace Wyler

Posted on 03/09/2012 7:24:44 AM PST by SeekAndFind

It has been one week since Rush Limbaugh first called Georgetown University law student Sandra Fluke a "slut" and a "prostitute," but the controversy shows no sign of dying down.

Now University of Rochester economist and former Slate blogger Steven Landsburg has jumped to Limbaugh's defense.

In a blog post, Landsburg argued that while the talk radio host's language may have been off-color, Limbaugh's logic was analytically shrewd. Fluke, Landsburg writes, "deserves only to be ridiculed, mocked, and jeered" for saying that women should have access to contraception." He adds that Limbaugh's demand that Fluke and other Georgetown students post online sex tapes in exchange for contraception was actually a "spot-on analogy":

"If I can reasonably be required to pay for someone else’s sex life (absent any argument about externalities or other market failures), then I can reasonably demand to share in the benefits. His dense and humorless critics notwithstanding, I am 99% sure that Rush doesn’t actually advocate mandatory on-line sex videos. What he advocates is logical consistency and an appreciation for ethical symmetry. So do I. Color me jealous for not having thought of this analogy myself."

Unsurprisingly, Landsburg's arguments sparked a mini-firestorm at the University of Rochester, prompting the school's president to issue a public dissent. Landsburg has resoundingly dismissed his critics as "contraceptive sponges," and devoted another blog posts to rebutting their arguments in favor of contraception access.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: fluke; limbaugh; promiscuity; rush; rushfirestorm; rushisright; sandrafluke
BOY, I sure hope this professor has tenure...
1 posted on 03/09/2012 7:24:47 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
"deserves only to be ridiculed, mocked, and jeered" for saying that women should have access to contraception."

There the Left goes again, manipulating the language. Who has ever denied women "access" to contraceptives? As has been demonstrated, the spoiled co-eds of Georgetown can go to their nearby Target store and "access" contraceptives for $9 a month, without a prescription.

I guess they are equating the term "access" with getting something free of charge. By that logic, I can claim that I am being denied access to a Lexus because I can't get one for free.
2 posted on 03/09/2012 7:30:56 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Contraceptive sponges! LOL!

Viciously good wit!

Contraception in the courts of the Bourbons--a vinegar-soaked sponge used like an IUD.

In other words, a do***e bag.

This guy is more daring, in his way, than even our Rush.

3 posted on 03/09/2012 7:31:05 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: SeekAndFind

It is a shame that the state of academia is such that his argument is lost in the political correctness of it all. At the core of the argument is that we have a right to the product of our labors. That concept is so far removed from study these days that people don’t even recognize it when it hits them in the face.


4 posted on 03/09/2012 7:31:05 AM PST by JTHomes (Free markets now!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Landsburg has resoundingly dismissed his critics as "contraceptive sponges,"

I like this guy already
5 posted on 03/09/2012 7:31:19 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

I hope he has tenure also!

“Common Sense” today is lost, or neglected, or even despised.

I just heard in an old movie: “Today is Tommorrow”


6 posted on 03/09/2012 7:31:46 AM PST by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonymous)
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To: SeekAndFind
Landsburg has resoundingly dismissed his critics as "contraceptive sponges," ...
BWAHAHAHAHA He called them...er...ummm...uh...scum suckers!
Yeah, that's close enough.
7 posted on 03/09/2012 7:32:27 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Former Slate contributor . . ."

This guy is no right-wing nutjob, he's obviously a liberal with intellectual integrity (I didn't think their were any).

This guy is a hero for standing up for the truth, consistency, and rationality.
8 posted on 03/09/2012 7:34:12 AM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
women should have access to contraception

We're seeing this lie over and over. If the government doesn't force someone else to pay for it, the left says people don't have "access" to it. Anybody repeating this line should also be ridiculed.

9 posted on 03/09/2012 7:36:38 AM PST by MulberryDraw (Newt: "The high price of gas is the deliberate strategy of the left.")
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To: philman_36
I am surprised he finds them even "sponge worthy".

Seinfeld -
"The Sponge"
Season 7, Episode 9, Aired 12/7/95

10 posted on 03/09/2012 7:39:14 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: SeekAndFind

in a sense, Rush, and this feller, are the only voices standing up for the Catholic Church’s ideals


11 posted on 03/09/2012 7:43:41 AM PST by stickywillie (a corrupt parallel universe exists beside our wonderful Constitution)
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To: SeekAndFind

I hope there is a good audio of these comments so Rush can play them over and over on Monday!


12 posted on 03/09/2012 7:45:34 AM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: SeekAndFind
Landsburg has resoundingly dismissed his critics as "contraceptive sponges," and devoted another blog posts to rebutting their arguments in favor of contraception access.

LOL - contraceptive sponges.... We've got ourselves a new hero - seems that's happening more and more... life is good!

Hope Rush Limbaugh sees this...

13 posted on 03/09/2012 7:48:08 AM PST by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: SeekAndFind

Guess the University President doesn’t want to hear talk about “if you pay, you play” stuff ~ might well reveal some secrets at that campus!


14 posted on 03/09/2012 7:49:34 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: stickywillie
Standing up for the Catholic church is only a byproduct here. They are standing up for our freedom from the Government taking over every phase of our lives.
15 posted on 03/09/2012 7:55:54 AM PST by fish hawk (NAACP = Native Americans Against Corrupt Politicians)
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To: SeekAndFind

love it.


16 posted on 03/09/2012 7:56:07 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: SeekAndFind

“What he advocates is logical consistency and an appreciation for ethical symmetry.”

Yeah, let me know how that works out. You’ll find that at the end of the rainbow along with “hope and change”. It’s right next to the fountain of youth.

This guy has a way with phrases.


17 posted on 03/09/2012 7:58:50 AM PST by albionin
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To: SeekAndFind
What [Limbaugh] advocates is logical consistency and an appreciation for ethical symmetry.

I heard Rush talk about it.. I honestly had the same impression of what Rush was saying.. I simply lacked the eloquence to describe my feeling. I said that it was tit for tat.

18 posted on 03/09/2012 7:59:47 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: stickywillie
in a sense, Rush, and this feller, are the only voices standing up for the Catholic Church’s ideals

Not only the Catholic ideals but the actual Constitution of The United States too!!! The libs are so far off base on this that is is unbelievable even for their vacuous insight into the founding documents..

19 posted on 03/09/2012 8:00:12 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Me too. They’ll be burning him in no time. Hopefully in effigy, but who knows? We all know how liberal and tolerant and open to dialogue the left is...especially it’s academics and they’re minions, errr students.


20 posted on 03/09/2012 8:00:34 AM PST by pgkdan (Rick Santorum 2012. Conservative's last, best chance!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Dennis Miller said it best, “If Barack Obama really believes that every one should give some, then it is not unreasonable to expect a 30 year old career student to pay $2.74 per day for something that they want for them self.” That includes a pill, cell phone, or a cup of latte.
21 posted on 03/09/2012 8:01:16 AM PST by Why So Serious (There is no cure for stupidity!!!)
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To: pgkdan

they’re s/b their. duh.


22 posted on 03/09/2012 8:04:02 AM PST by pgkdan (Rick Santorum 2012. Conservative's last, best chance!)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Her argument focused primarily on the medical (and non-contraceptive) uses of birth control."

Fluke's Testimony: "Without insurance coverage, contraception can cost a woman over $3,000 during law school. For a lot of students who, like me, are on public interest scholarships, that’s practically an entire summer’s salary. Forty percent of female students at Georgetown Law report struggling financially as a result of this policy."

Fluke did talk a lot about certain medical cases wherein contraceptives would help. However, if her intent was to focus only on the medical benefits of contraceptives, she undercut herself by bringing up the figure of 40% of female students who struggled financially." She forgot the lesson of Upton Sinclair's book "The Jungle." It intended to extoll the virtues of Socialism, but society focused on the dreadful conditions of the meat packing industry.

Sandra Fluke:

"You might respond that contraception is accessible in lots of other ways. Unfortunately, that’s not true. Women’s health clinics provide vital medical services, but as the Guttmacher Institute has documented, clinics are unable to meet the crushing demand for these services. Clinics are closing and women are being forced to go without. How can Congress consider the Fortenberry, Rubio, and Blunt legislation that would allow even more employers and institutions to refuse contraceptive coverage and then respond that the non-profit clinics should step up to take care of the resulting medical crisis, particularly when so many legislators are attempting to defund those very same clinics?"

This gets back to the argument of contraceptives in general. It has been demonstrated that there are a number of contraceptive devices available over the counter. If a woman can't afford those, or will not ask her partner to use a condom, it supports the argument that a woman is asking someone else to pay so that she can have sex.

JMO, but is has been amply demonstrated that birth control devices are readily available, and contraceptive pills can be obtain cheaply or even free. And Fluke has not clarified what "vital medical services" the clinics provide that women so desperately need.

23 posted on 03/09/2012 8:06:06 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: SeekAndFind


24 posted on 03/09/2012 8:15:45 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Never really watched his show. I don’t plan to now either.


25 posted on 03/09/2012 8:26:25 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Sponge worthy! *snicker*

(I didn’t like the way Rush went about this -it was overly crude with no explanation or regrouping that Friday- but I guess the shock-jock way is fast becoming the only way in this society)


26 posted on 03/09/2012 8:29:37 AM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not to be confused with the late Steve Landesberg (1936-2010), best known for his role in the show “Barney Miller.”


27 posted on 03/09/2012 8:34:28 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: SeekAndFind

“contraceptive sponges”

Now that’s an instant classic. Thank you Professor Landsberg. Well shut my mouth, there is at least one decent professor in the United States after all.

Of course I don’t know the rest of this guy’s story, but on this issue he nailed it.

They’re contraceptive sponges. Love it.


28 posted on 03/09/2012 8:36:56 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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To: libertarian27
It got their attention, and is causing a big backlash against fluke.

If were going to be taken down by a president who believes that "then end justifies the means", well, we have to fight fire with fire.

Oversensitive people probably should not listen to Rush as he is not their shrink.
29 posted on 03/09/2012 8:37:30 AM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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To: Sudetenland
he's obviously a liberal with intellectual integrity

I'd sooner call him a libertarian. He's rather well-known in economics circles. Has several books in print.

I read his Armchair Economist. Not exactly my cup of tea, but entertaining.

30 posted on 03/09/2012 8:39:57 AM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: FrankR

It did get their attention - everyone’s attention:)

I don’t know if Rush intended to generate that much attention and the form that it came in as - from all sides.

If he was fully aware of the backlash against him - then kudos to his plan...but as a Rush listener and Conservative I am getting the backlash from people who know I am - it’s taken way-too-long for this to come full circle to the meat of this ‘free for all’ crap that Fluke spouted. Heck, I’m making up my own talking points to put this in prospective (as I ‘thought’ he was doing) - something that I didn’t hear Rush do until too late.....(everyone had their own version of what Rush was doing - it was a mess - he didn’t control it - and that, I think, was his mistake - a press release on a Saturday sort of confirms that to me)

In this day-and-age everything needs to be in fast, complete packages of information or it can go haywire - it didn’t have to.....


31 posted on 03/09/2012 8:58:51 AM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: SeekAndFind

Fluke’s years of liberal activism. Add her ties to the LGBTQ and her efforts to:

” force schools to pay for sex change operations”.

http://voices.yahoo.com/sandra-fluke-liberal-lesbian-activist-secret-11062294.html?cat=9

Sandra Fluke — Liberal Lesbian Activist on a Secret Mission ...

Consider also the little matter of Fluke’s efforts on behalf of the activist group called Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgendered Questioning.

Review — titled Employment Discrimination Against LGBTQ Persons.

“A prime example of direct discrimination,” the “gender law” article claims “is:

denying insurance coverage for medical needs of transgender persons physically transitioning to the other gender.”


32 posted on 03/09/2012 9:13:36 AM PST by ebysan (ebysan)
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To: libertarian27

Rush has always had a great talent for making tasty omlets from a bunchh of broken eggs...


33 posted on 03/09/2012 9:20:06 AM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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To: Mamzelle

“Contraception in the courts of the Bourbons—a vinegar-soaked sponge used like an IUD.”

Better than the Ancient Egyptian equivalent, which relied heavily on crocodile dung!


34 posted on 03/09/2012 10:04:25 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
There the Left goes again, manipulating the language

Like when they call anything limiting abortion an assault on women's "reproductive rights", as if people are trying to deny them the right to reproduce.

35 posted on 03/09/2012 10:07:57 AM PST by Lizavetta (You get what you tolerate)
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To: SeekAndFind

“BOY, I sure hope this professor has tenure...”

And Kevlar.


36 posted on 03/09/2012 10:13:06 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Don't blame me; I voted for the American.)
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To: ebysan

So, Ms Fluke is a . . . DYKE? :-)


37 posted on 03/10/2012 9:08:49 AM PST by man_in_tx (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!)
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To: DoughtyOne

[T]here is at least one decent professor in the United States after all.

Beaming-alums-of-University-of-Rochester ping.


38 posted on 03/11/2012 6:23:43 PM PDT by eddiespaghetti ((with the meatball eyes))
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