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Families' exodus leaves S.F. with lowest pct. of children in U.S.
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 3/9/12 | Heather Knight

Posted on 03/09/2012 7:37:04 AM PST by SmithL

Last year, a family of three earning $111,000 a year could afford just 23 percent of homes for sale in San Francisco - mostly in southern neighborhoods, including Bayview-Hunters Point.

The median price of a house in the city in 2010 was $668,000. Just 2 percent of new housing units built in the city since 2001 are single-family, detached homes.

These were just a few of the scores of statistics presented at a special Board of Supervisors hearing Thursday to help explain why San Francisco is bleeding families with children - losing 5,278 people younger than 18 between 2000 and 2010, according to census figures.

There are actually about 3,000 more children younger than 5 in the city than there were in 2000, but about 8,000 fewer school-age youths.

The flight of families with children - particularly middle-income and African American families - is leaving San Francisco older, whiter and richer. That has concerned city officials and family advocates who say families with children are essential to a diverse, thriving city.

Keeping city diverse

"This has been a personal issue for me for quite some time," said Supervisor Mark Farrell, who called the hearing and said his two young children are losing lots of their friends to the suburbs - and that his own adult friends are increasingly moving.

"Keeping families in San Francisco is important for a diverse city," he said. "Having children in our parks and our schools and strollers on our sidewalks is important to the vibrancy of our neighborhoods."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; US: California
KEYWORDS: antifamilies; itsforthechildren; sanfranciscovalues
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Why would such a thing happen?

Let me count the ways!

1 posted on 03/09/2012 7:37:07 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Liberal Ameritopians see EVERYTHING through the prism of racial identity.

Shortened:

Liberals are racists.


2 posted on 03/09/2012 7:39:07 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SmithL

Folsom street “fair”...


3 posted on 03/09/2012 7:39:12 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: SmithL

There must be 50 reasons to leave San Francisco……


4 posted on 03/09/2012 7:39:52 AM PST by Lockbox
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To: SmithL
The flight of families with children - particularly middle-income and African American families - is leaving San Francisco older, whiter and richer.

Correction:

The flight of families with children - particularly middle-income and African American families - is leaving San Francisco older, whiter, richer and gayer.

6 posted on 03/09/2012 7:41:35 AM PST by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
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To: SmithL

Oh, I’m sure those San Fransicko homos are very upset about families with children fleeing the city.


7 posted on 03/09/2012 7:41:54 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: SmithL
You can leave, but you will have to leave your children behind to be adopted by and artist and his dancer boyfriend.
8 posted on 03/09/2012 7:42:50 AM PST by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: Lancey Howard

Of course they are; it makes recruitment more difficult.


9 posted on 03/09/2012 7:43:04 AM PST by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
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To: SmithL

San Francisco, Like Manhattan is an adult playground, but there is no way in hell I would ever think of raising children in either of those places.


10 posted on 03/09/2012 7:44:19 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Michael.SF.

I maintain that anybody who deliberately takes a child into San Fransicko should be jailed for child abuse.


11 posted on 03/09/2012 7:44:36 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: SmithL

What is the problem? This is precisely what the Gay Mafia wants. Get rid of those “breeders”.


12 posted on 03/09/2012 7:45:48 AM PST by headstamp 2 (Liberalism: Carrying adolescent values and behavior into adult life.)
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To: SmithL

Oh, the breeders are leaving!
That will make it more difficult for the recruiters!..........


13 posted on 03/09/2012 7:46:13 AM PST by Red Badger (If the Government can make you buy heath insurance, they can make you buy a Volt................)
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To: SZonian

This liberal city has done so much to accomodate a steady parade of kooks and crackpots and gays and assorted liberal types over the years.

Now, they are having liberal angst about families with children not wanting to live in the environment they have created? They want, dare I say, “normal” or “mainstream” families with children to live in their community, after they have done so much to make their city unfriendly to families?????

This city, which does so much for “tolerance” of the most bizarre people, is concerned that some people are voting with their feet, and deciding to live elsewhere???

Is this satire or is it real?


14 posted on 03/09/2012 7:46:15 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SmithL

On top add Gays and Lesbians population and they don’t make babies.


15 posted on 03/09/2012 7:46:55 AM PST by jennychase
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To: SmithL

So are they turning all the empty public school buildings into bath houses?


16 posted on 03/09/2012 7:47:43 AM PST by matginzac
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To: Lockbox
There must be 50 reasons to leave San Francisco……

It's way too gay, Jay.

Bums crap on the street, Pete.

Taxes are high, Kwai.

...

17 posted on 03/09/2012 7:50:08 AM PST by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Wife and I spent a week in San Diego (she at a convention; me along for the ride.) We saw the Midway, Balboa Park and the Zoo.
I have to say we were nearly overrun by baby strollers at the zoo. Plenty of families in California, just further south...


18 posted on 03/09/2012 7:50:58 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Beware the Sweater Vest)
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To: SmithL

Didn’t see any mention of the ok on public nudity.


19 posted on 03/09/2012 7:52:02 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: SmithL

These same people, who now have their liberal angst about families with children leaving S.F., would be the loudest to condemn these same families, when complaints are made about the public behavior of certain “gay” men.

These same liberal types will condemn the families as being “homophobic”, etc. if they say anything about the “gay” culture and the environment of S.F. So why do they want them around in the first place? The more “normal” people who leave, that leaves S.F. more gay, more adult, more liberal, with fewer people to complain about their “tolerance” of the bizarre in that city.

Why again do they want families with children to stay?


20 posted on 03/09/2012 7:53:33 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

About the families that are leaving...

well, they’re just “intolerant” and “racist” and “sexist” and “homophobic” and....

Well, you get the idea.

Unfortunately, satire has become the new reality.


21 posted on 03/09/2012 7:53:50 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: GOP Poet

Leah Garchik { Right to bare and right to stare }


22 posted on 03/09/2012 7:54:33 AM PST by SmithL (If you reward certain behavior, don't be surprised when you see more of that behavior)
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To: Michael.SF.

There's only one solution.........

23 posted on 03/09/2012 7:54:52 AM PST by Red Badger (If the Government can make you buy heath insurance, they can make you buy a Volt................)
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To: SmithL
The problem is the NAMBLAs and other homosexual in San Francisco want teen boys for sex partners not flabby fifty somethings who have had every STD known to medical science. Lesbo’s want young barbies not 60 year old Rosie O’Donells.
24 posted on 03/09/2012 7:55:17 AM PST by detective
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To: SmithL

Bush’s fault.


25 posted on 03/09/2012 8:00:07 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("The facts of life are Tory." -- Margaret Thatcher)
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To: SmithL

And this isn't the first time that the rulers of San Francisco have ignored the obvious.

26 posted on 03/09/2012 8:03:40 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: SmithL
"Having children in our parks and our schools and strollers on our sidewalks is important to the vibrancy of our neighborhoods."

Stroller obstacle course avoiding the homeless and their pets, used syringes and condoms.

27 posted on 03/09/2012 8:04:32 AM PST by C19fan
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To: SmithL

Queers don’t breed.


28 posted on 03/09/2012 8:06:36 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: GOP Poet

SF passed an ordinance requiring nudists to “cover up” upon entering a restaurant. What, are we living in the Dark Ages?


29 posted on 03/09/2012 8:06:55 AM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: Moonman62

That bottom (pun intended) photo was the one I was thinking of...


30 posted on 03/09/2012 8:06:55 AM PST by null and void (Day 1144 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: SmithL

I sure would like to be a fly on the wall listening to these imbaciles ponder the mystery of why SF is not an attractive place to start or raise a family.

I lived there for 3.5 years. We relocated to TX because it was time to start a family.


31 posted on 03/09/2012 8:07:14 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (With regards to the GOP: I am prodisestablishmentarianistic!)
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To: SmithL
Well goodie for them. Soon, they will have all single homos living there. Or shacked up together. They can have their 1,000 different sexual partners living right down the street. All of them will be homos. Goddie for them. I am waiting for the BIG ONE to crack SF wide open and swallow that cesspool whole.
32 posted on 03/09/2012 8:11:32 AM PST by RetiredArmy (God is watching America. He is judging America. He does not like what He is seeing.)
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Oh, I’m sure those San Fransicko homos are very upset about families with children fleeing the city.”

Yes, they are upset because sodomite pedophiles will have to travel outside the city to find victims.


33 posted on 03/09/2012 8:12:28 AM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: SmithL
"Having children in our parks and our schools and strollers on our sidewalks is important to the vibrancy of our neighborhoods." Well... make some changes to make SF a family-friendly city.... and we don't mean the "Heather-has-two-Mommies" variety, either...

Oh, what the hell am I saying.. it's San Francisco! Traditional families are so 1960s!

34 posted on 03/09/2012 8:13:10 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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To: HamiltonJay

I will not even visit, much less live or raise children.


35 posted on 03/09/2012 8:16:15 AM PST by steve86 (I have Schizoid Personality Disorder and am exercising the privileges thereof)
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To: Michael.SF.

‘The flight of families with children - particularly middle-income and African American families - is leaving San Francisco older, whiter, richer and gayer.’
*

BINGO! I thought they would be happy with a “thriving city” of fags?


36 posted on 03/09/2012 8:17:36 AM PST by max americana
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To: SmithL

Seriously, if San Francisco wanted children to live there they would tell their bohemian residents to keep their clothes on in public places. No decent parent wants to subject their children to the ruling trashiness there.


37 posted on 03/09/2012 8:17:49 AM PST by formosa (Formosa)
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To: SmithL

A business contact in San Fran once told me “when we hire people, we tell recruiting firms to not even bother with candidates who are married with children, or planning to have children. They will take one look at the cost of housing here, realize that no matter how hard they work they will never, ever be able to afford a house, and then they’ll turn down the offer.”

Sounded like they had been through that drill many times before.


38 posted on 03/09/2012 8:18:40 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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There must be 50 reasons to leave San Francisco……

It's way too gay, Jay.

Bums crap on the street, Pete.

Taxes are high, Kwai.

LOL

It's no place to raise a boy, Roy

Street fairs are rude, Jude

Walkin' the streets is a real thrill, Phil

39 posted on 03/09/2012 8:24:20 AM PST by and so? (If it angers you, a sarcasm or irony tag after everything I post should be assumed)
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To: SmithL
The flight of families with children - particularly middle-income and African American families - is leaving San Francisco older, whiter and richer. That has concerned city officials and family advocates who say families with children are essential to a diverse, thriving city.

Here we are talking about families with children leaving San Francisco, and that can't be addressed on it's own merits. No diversity actually trumps when the problem is addressed. '...essential to a diverse thriving city.' This should read, '...essential to a thriving city.'

The big sins here are, older, more wealthy, and a more White city. You've got evidence of prejudice against the elderly, the wealthy, and Whites.

Leave out the wealthy and White portion of this, and it is reasoned to address the elderly because you need replacement people in any society. Add those in, and ageism becomes something of a problem too.

God forbid a subject of importance be raised without racism and prejudice rearing it's ugly head.

I would not advocate for a Whites only town, but if that is the eventuality, it's not a crime against nature. It would have happened because Black families made choices that were theirs to make. There could just as easily crop up a town that was all Black. Big whoop. Who cares.

Families with kids are leaving San Francisco. Who could have seen that coming? LOL, they made their own bed, now let them sleep in it with whoever they want, and shut up.

Let me guess what's next here. They'll start subsidizing Blacks with children who will move back into town. I'll bet this was the main goal all along, to justify the unjustifiable.

40 posted on 03/09/2012 8:27:05 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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the gay city does not need children in parks and in strollers etc.....the children shouldn't have to live like that, being the oodled and eye candy for perverts....

being "older,whiter, and richer" is not a good thing apparently.....and here I've hit the first two....

41 posted on 03/09/2012 8:31:43 AM PST by cherry
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To: formosa
Seriously, if San Francisco wanted children to live there they would tell their bohemian residents to keep their clothes on in public places. No decent parent wants to subject their children to the ruling trashiness there.

In a city whose residents dress their toddlers in bondage gear for "pride" parades, I highly doubt that'd go anywhere. Best for families with a sense of traditionalism to bolt out of there.

42 posted on 03/09/2012 8:33:51 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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To: SmithL

After decades of anti-family policies, SF wants families to stay???

This is almost as preposterous as Sleep Train, after jumping ship and spending three days castigating Rush Limbaugh, asking to return to his show as a sponsor.


43 posted on 03/09/2012 8:38:54 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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To: SmithL

They only want the children because they are pedophiles.


44 posted on 03/09/2012 8:40:49 AM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: Red Badger

Thanksgiving turkey has never quite been the same since I learned the “other use” for a turkey baster.


45 posted on 03/09/2012 8:41:51 AM PST by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
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To: SmithL

“No, honey, don’t look back.”


46 posted on 03/09/2012 8:42:13 AM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Michael.SF.

Not whiter - more Asian.
White kids proportions also continue to fall.
Asians continue to rise.


47 posted on 03/09/2012 8:43:12 AM PST by buwaya
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To: SmithL

Been happening since 1968.

The real exodus was 1968-78. School attendance almost halved. The biggest factor was integration/busing, that was the last straw for many.

Since then its been a slow steady decline.

There are periodic laments like this published every once in a while. I have been seeing them since the early 1980’s. They mean nothing.


48 posted on 03/09/2012 8:46:48 AM PST by buwaya
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To: RetiredArmy

Homo population hasn’t really increased since the 1970’s as far as I can see.

The really important demographic change is that the city is much more Asian.


49 posted on 03/09/2012 8:48:26 AM PST by buwaya
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To: SmithL

Sodom.

I’d take my kids out of there too. Who wouldn’t? The schools are liberal re-education camps, but then so are most of the burbs too.


50 posted on 03/09/2012 8:49:45 AM PST by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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