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Jerry Brown predicts ongoing budget problems, "finger-pointing" if his tax measures fails
Sacramento Bee ^ | 3/9/12 | David Siders and Kevin Yamamura

Posted on 03/09/2012 8:01:19 AM PST by SmithL

Gov. Jerry Brown said Thursday he is racing to clear the November ballot of two rival tax initiatives because failure will lead to severe ongoing budget problems and Democratic blame-trading.

"If we get down the road and there are no taxes," he said, "there's going to be a lot of finger-pointing."

The Democratic governor, who proposes to raise the state sales tax and income taxes on California's highest earners, said a proposed tax on millionaires would attract many of the same people who might otherwise support his plan, splitting the vote and likely leaving both measures to fail.

"That would, I think, pretty well ensure the defeat," Brown told The Bee's editorial board. "I don't want to say it's an absolute, but it's – I want to choose my words wisely – but I wouldn't be counting on that tax measure."

Brown's meeting was his second this week with a newspaper editorial board, in an increasingly public effort by the governor and his allies to pressure the supporters of two other tax plans to withdraw. Also Thursday, the California Business Roundtable announced its opposition to the other measures.

Brown said his initiative may be able to withstand the presence on the November ballot of an income tax proposal backed by attorney Molly Munger, but he urged Democrats to coalesce around his proposal, which he said is "more 'MOR' – middle of the road."

Brown said the other tax proposals would do little or nothing to address a state budget deficit he estimates at $9.2 billion.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: goldenstate; moonbeam; smokeandmirrors; taxandspend

Gov. Jerry Brown told The Bee’s editorial board that time is short for budget proposals: “We’ve got to get the truth out and what the consequences are.”

1 posted on 03/09/2012 8:01:25 AM PST by SmithL
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2 posted on 03/09/2012 8:14:09 AM PST by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: SmithL

Producers leave the state because of high taxes and massive regulation. Raise the taxes on the ones that have not left and add more regulation.

More producers leave the state because of even higher high taxes and regulation. Raise the taxes on the ones that have not left and add more regulation.

Even more producers leave the state because of even higher high taxes and regulation. Raise the taxes on the ones that have not left and add more regulation.

Repeat until it all collapses and there is nothing left but parasites and poverty. Blame the right.


3 posted on 03/09/2012 8:14:34 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: SmithL

Bye-bye California.

Let’s see how much longer your law to always pay your obligations hold up, when you’re out of money.


4 posted on 03/09/2012 8:17:12 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: SmithL

If there’s any good political news out of California nowadays, it may be that Democrats, from Governor Brown on down, control the state politically.

Every single statewide constitutional officer of California is a Democrat. Democrats control both the State Assembly and State Senate by comfortable margins.

California has problems, but politically, there is no way to deflect or share the blame. Good Democrats are in charge from top to bottom. The success or failure of their plans is all on them. Republicans cannot be blamed for anything that happens in California.


5 posted on 03/09/2012 8:17:54 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SmithL

Why are they doing ballot initiatives to raise taxes?

Governor Arnold S. sponsored a special election a few years ago, with a package of tax increases to be voted on. Even liberal California voted these taxes down. There were 5 proposed tax increases on the ballot, if I recall correctly, and all five were voted down with well over 60% voting no.

And why does this go to the voters? Why doesn’t the legislature and governor earn their salaries, and deal with the structural finanancial problems, by doing their job and passing legislation?

Is it all political, so that the legislature and governor can say the people voted for taxes, not them???

Then, if the tax increases are voted down, then what does Jerry do?


6 posted on 03/09/2012 8:22:20 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Moonbeam created this problem when he authorized public employee unions during his first run as gov.

Chickens comin’ home to roost.


7 posted on 03/09/2012 8:29:00 AM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: Proud2BeRight

Jerry Brown’s thinking:

“We have a lot of wealthy people and businesses moving out of California. That’s a fact. When they leave us, we lose tax revenue. What we need to do is replace that revenue by raising the taxes on the wealthy people and business owners that have not yet left. That’s the only way to save our state.”

Holy $hit!

The rest of the country should be protesting about all of our federal tax dollars being dumped into CA to keep it propped up. CA is the largest leech on the national economy in the nation. They take in far more federal funds than they dish out. The whole country is paying taxes to support the likes of California and New York
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8 posted on 03/09/2012 8:32:18 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (With regards to the GOP: I am prodisestablishmentarianistic!)
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To: SmithL

“If we get down the road and there are no taxes,......”

Wow I did not know that Gov. Moonbeam’s California had the likelihood of no taxes.

Really.

I am assuming that “no taxes” is some kind of democRAT speak for “massive, new, oppressive, economically-savaging taxes”


9 posted on 03/09/2012 8:40:35 AM PST by rod1
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To: Proud2BeRight

Need to add one thing to each step.

- Continue to pay people not to work, continue and increase public sector union payoff through higher pay and better benefits than private counterparts, encourage more illegals to enter the state and get free health care and welfare.


10 posted on 03/09/2012 8:41:24 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“Then, if the tax increases are voted down, then what does Jerry do?”

Goes to the court, they overturn the will of the voters and the tax increase goes into effect.

That is pretty much what happens in Kalifornia. People there are just too stupid to do anything. I have no sympathy.


11 posted on 03/09/2012 8:50:43 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The left are all fluked up!!)
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To: SmithL

California is selling yet more high interest bonds. Robbing MasterCard to pay Visa.


12 posted on 03/09/2012 9:02:11 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: SmithL

Time for California bankruptcy to readjust the gravy train of enormous pensions.


13 posted on 03/09/2012 9:45:25 AM PST by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“Then, if the tax increases are voted down, then what does Jerry do?”

I don’t know, tell me. Seriously, I can’t wait for the ballot measures to all fail. I hope that they all stay on the ballot to insure that none of them passes. They say it is “unconstitutional” for a state to go bankrupt. So tell me, when a state is out of money, isn’t that the functional equivalent of being bankrupt irrespective of what the Constitution says? As a life-long Californian, I want the State to go under with the RATs at the helm. They’ve made this mess, they need to be held to account for it.


14 posted on 03/09/2012 9:56:03 AM PST by vette6387
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To: SmithL

For too long Calif. has been led by liberal fools trying to be all things to all interet groups.
It quite obviously has not been a good experiment.
Now our neighbors in Calif are following govenor moonbeam and he has a, “plan”?
Good luck with that.
But hey, you elected that damned idiot just as we elected this punk ass marxist black ass clown so I guess we all deserve the ass whoopin we’re getting/


15 posted on 03/09/2012 10:38:28 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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"If we get down the road and there are no taxes," he said, "there's going to be a lot of finger-pointing."

WHAT??!! There ARE taxes, lots and lots of them. California has one the highest tax burdens in the nation. High sales taxes, high income taxes, high business taxes, crushing regulations, you name it.

The problem is spending, but of course the governor doesn't want to touch that.
16 posted on 03/09/2012 10:45:54 AM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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