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CNN Asks Catholic Bishop 'Why Not Get on Board' and Support Gay Marriage
mrc ^ | March 8, 2012 | Matt Hadro

Posted on 03/09/2012 1:56:31 PM PST by NYer

CNN's Kyra Phillips asked a Catholic bishop on Thursday "why not get on board" with dissenting Catholics who favor gay marriage. Given CNN's past [1] support [2] for LGBT causes, they clearly would not question the motives of a religious minister favoring gay marriage.

In fact, in 2010 Phillips fawned [3] over a Christian pastor who publicly began accepting the lifestyle of gays and lesbians. 

Phillips had cited a statistic saying 43 percent of American Catholics favor gay marriage. "So, Bishop, times are changing. Views are changing. You're changing your tactics even," Phillips said. "So, why not get on board with the 43 percent of Catholics?"

"Well their thinking is outside the realm of Catholic teaching for 2,000 years," Bishop Malone responded.

Phillips' interview with Bishop Richard Malone of the Diocese of Portland, Maine, was over the Catholic Church's new tactic concerning the state's referendum vote in November asking voters to approve same-sex marriage.

[Video below. Click here [4] for audio.]

 

 

The bishop wanted to focus the resources of the diocese on educating Catholics about a "more profound" understanding of marriage between a man and a woman. But as he told Phillips, "let there be no confusion about the fact that the diocese and I will still be very involved in the effort to protect marriage as the union of one man and one woman."

Phillips hyped the diocese's change in tactics as a "stunning move." She saw the opportunity to pop the question to the bishop, "Are you softening your stance on same-sex marriage?" To which  Bishop Malone responded "Not at all. It will be even stronger and more vigorous."

A transcript of the segment, which aired on March 8 on Newsroom at 11:19 a.m. EST, is as follows:

KYRA PHILLIPS: Well, in the battle over same-sex marriage, a stunning move by the Catholic Church in Maine. The church says it will not actively campaign against a November referendum asking voters to approve gay marriage. Now, that stands in stark contrast with the church's position in 2009 when it waged a campaign to overturn a law passed that same year legalizing same-sex marriage.

Now, the gay activist group, Human Rights Campaign, says the church spent nearly $2 million in the fight to repeal that law. Joining us now, the bishop of Portland, Richard Malone. Bishop, thanks so much for being with me. You're not going to take an active role, from what I see here, in fundraising, staffing, advertising, or campaigning against the gay marriage referendum this time around. Why?

Bishop RICHARD MALONE, Roman Catholic Diocese of Portland, Maine: Good morning, Kyra. Well, let there be no confusion about the fact that the diocese and I will still be very involved in the effort to protect marriage as the union of one man and one woman. But we've decided this year that our best efforts can be to put our energies and resources into educating our Catholic community better about the very nature of marriage.

PHILLIPS: So, Bishop, let me ask me – ask you. You know, this plan of action has changed quite drastically since 2009, you know, where you had very active campaign. And now you're moving toward education and putting funds towards that. Are you softening your stance on same-sex marriage?

MALONE: Not at all. It will be even stronger and more vigorous. One of our discoveries in 2009 was that really, many of our Catholic people in Maine could use a bit more profound understanding of how the church has understood marriage for 2,000 years. So, I decided, while we will certainly be in close contact with our allies who will lead the political battle, we intend to focus on the education and formation of consciences of our people.

PHILLIPS: Now, let me ask you, Bishop, according to the Public Religion Research Institute, right now – this is a recent survey that was conducted – Catholics are more supportive of legal recognition of same-sex relationships than members of any other Christian tradition and American overall. It reports 43 percent of Catholics nationally favor gay marriage. Is that why you're taking a different approach here?

MALONE: Well, you're on to something there, Kyra. To the extent that we can trust that those numbers are accurate – and that's always a question, of course – but that proves exactly the motivation for the approach that we're taking. We're taking no chances that our people will not have a really accurate understanding of what marriage is and to the impact on society should anyone try to change that definition of marriage.

PHILLIPS: So, Bishop, times are changing. Views are changing. You're changing your tactics even. Or your – I guess you say your strategy. So, why not get on board with the 43 percent of Catholics?

MALONE: The 43 percent who –

PHILLIPS: Who have no problem with gay marriage.

MALONE: Well their thinking is outside the realm of Catholic teaching for 2,000 years. And those are the folks that we want to focus on so they'll perhaps be able to have what I would call an intellectual conversion about a very key building-block of society, that is the nature of marriage as the union of one man, one woman.


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To: RinaseaofDs

A ‘cure’ would assume there is an underlying medical condition, a reason beyond the persons control. That is my only objection.

Personally, I think the best ‘cure’ for pedophilia is castration.


51 posted on 03/09/2012 3:06:58 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: NYer

What a bunch of ignorant ghouls of soddom. THese people are suffering from a slavery to sex derangement. It’s like asking why not injecting sugar to people with diabetes.


52 posted on 03/09/2012 3:08:33 PM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: reaganaut

Mine is similar. We haven’t had a murder in 15 or more years, and I often don’t bother to lock my car. There are almost 50,000 people here too, but it is a wealthy community, 30 miles outside Los Angeles. We do get a few burglaries, but not many. Too far to drive? Also, 2000 LAPD live in the next town...: )


53 posted on 03/09/2012 3:10:21 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Nancy who? Oh, yeah, that plastic surgery of a blow up doll. At this point in time, what is gay since it’s plastic?


54 posted on 03/09/2012 3:12:22 PM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: NYer

“why not get on board” with dissenting Catholics who favor gay marriage.”

Wow.

Do these people ever LISTEN to themselves?


55 posted on 03/09/2012 3:12:40 PM PST by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I think a lot of people simply don’t think, at all.


56 posted on 03/09/2012 3:15:36 PM PST by Tax-chick (Maybe it IS about contraception. Read "Planned Parenthood v. Casey" decision, 1992.)
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To: reaganaut

I know enough homosexuals to know that most, if not all, don’t want to be homosexuals. I can’t get my head around it, but I’m convinced its true.

Until there’s ANY evidence, and there is precious little, nothing can be assumed.

As for pedophila, I would like to think, but I don’t know, that there are pedophiles who truly don’t want to be. It would be better that a cure can be found than they be put to death or exiled.


57 posted on 03/09/2012 3:18:44 PM PST by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: steve86

Good . for you. But the Tridentine Mass is not why those kids no longer appear. We actually have a Tridentine Church a half mile away and those families are not there either. These kids went through the sacraments so they could have a church wedding if they desire to


58 posted on 03/09/2012 3:26:11 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: NYer

Just wrote CNN and asked them what cocktail lounge they plucked Phillips from.


59 posted on 03/09/2012 3:27:09 PM PST by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: Vigilanteman
Or maybe the survey was taken in Nancy Pelosi’s district.

No way! If it was Nancy's district it would be 93%, not 43%.

60 posted on 03/09/2012 3:27:53 PM PST by choirboy
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To: NYer
So, Bishop, times are changing.

“I am the LORD, and I do not change. That is why you descendants of Jacob are not already destroyed. Ever since the days of your ancestors, you have scorned my decrees and failed to obey them. Now return to me, and I will return to you,” says the LORD of Heaven’s Armies."

Malachi 3:6-7

61 posted on 03/09/2012 3:30:03 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: NYer

It reports 43 percent of Catholics nationally favor gay marriage

Really? I’d be very, very shocked if that is accurate.


62 posted on 03/09/2012 3:33:10 PM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: NYer
I propose that all guests to CNN take a drink of water just as the “journalist” asks them a question. This way, the viewing audience gets to judge the reaction to the question by the velocity with which the liquid is spewed back into the journalist's face.
63 posted on 03/09/2012 3:34:11 PM PST by liberalh8ter (Barack has a memory like a steel trap; it's a gift ~ Michelle Obama)
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To: RinaseaofDs

I grew up in Palm Springs, CA (lots of gays) and did a survey for a sociology course of 250 gays/lesbians. Over 80% admitted they were abused either sexually or physically. About 50% readily admitted it was a choice or they were pressured into the lifestyle (prostitution to pay for drugs, etc).

If they don’t want to be gay, they don’t have to be. You don’t need to give into every temptation that comes your way.


64 posted on 03/09/2012 3:39:07 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: stephenjohnbanker

In California? Wow. Our last neighborhood in CA we had Kevlar vests to garden in our front yard. They even broke in through our iron bars when they robbed us right before we moved out of state.

You couldn’t pay me to live in CA again. God be with you.


65 posted on 03/09/2012 3:41:09 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

That sort of research direction wouldn’t alleviate the need to find some sort of remedy. Were that sort of research done responsibly and according to all accepted medical and scientific practices, then it would force the APA to place it back in the DSM as a psychological disorder.

If the research finds its a choice, and there is nothing that medical science can do, then we would be able to repeal all of these onerous marriage requirements and tort claims being foisted on us.

Until its done, we are going to get more of what we are getting. The homosexual lobby will fight any effort at coherent, proper research of the matter.

It will help turn the tide.


66 posted on 03/09/2012 3:46:02 PM PST by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: RinaseaofDs
What if we could cure homosexuality

They are significantly related. Pedophiliacs need to be sentenced to public execution.
The rate of recidivism is astronomical. They can not be "cured" only eliminated from the pool of society.
Given that Homosexuals always bring up science to try to "prove" they have no choice in what they do The aforementioned facts are the only actual scientific proof in this discussion that they need to be eliminated from the gene pool, forever!
67 posted on 03/09/2012 3:53:15 PM PST by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: NYer

The Bishop should have responded by asking Kyra Philips to explain how two people of the same sex can join together as husband and wife - which you have to have in order to have marriage. This is not “discrimination”, “hate”, etc. it’s just reality...two people of the same sex cannot be husband and wife...it’s just the way it is.


68 posted on 03/09/2012 4:00:23 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

Katherine Hepburn used to say that; “it’s just not possible” to roughly quote her. It’s silly; but having said that, I can’t stop two people who think they’re “in love” from shacking up together. I doubt they’d be inviting me to their “wedding” anyway if it became “legal”.


69 posted on 03/09/2012 4:08:27 PM PST by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: Twinkie
I can’t stop two people who think they’re “in love” from shacking up together.

No, that's right, and neither can the State of North Carolina, for example. If any association of people other than one man and one woman want to "get married," they can find a church that will do it for them, or get a Wiccan practitioner, or a friend with some cool academic robes, or whatever. What they can't do, without the state's police power behind them, is force me or anything else to recognize them as a married couple.

I had a friend from college who held a "commitment ceremony" with his homosexual partner. We were invited, although it was a courtesy invitation, since we lived in a far-off city with several small children. It was a housewarming celebration, as well, so we sent them a gift to recognize their home-ownership.

70 posted on 03/09/2012 4:15:06 PM PST by Tax-chick (Maybe it IS about contraception. Read "Planned Parenthood v. Casey" decision, 1992.)
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To: NYer

What a totally disgusting B****!!!!!

Good thing I don’t have CNN. I would have thrown something at the TV!!


71 posted on 03/09/2012 4:20:12 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: reaganaut

“God be with you.”

He is.


72 posted on 03/09/2012 5:04:05 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Tax-chick

Yep....when they leave work, they turn off their brains.


73 posted on 03/09/2012 5:05:19 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: TalBlack

” Do these people ever LISTEN to themselves?”

They don’t DARE!


74 posted on 03/09/2012 5:06:30 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Maybe their jobs don’t require thinking. Mine didn’t, really ... just following the instructions to fill out the forms correctly, day after month after quarter after year ...


75 posted on 03/09/2012 5:10:48 PM PST by Tax-chick (Maybe it IS about contraception. Read "Planned Parenthood v. Casey" decision, 1992.)
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To: Tax-chick

People tend to go to their little corners, and ignore reality......unless it is a reality TV show, that is.
The average American is so disassociated with reality, they can’t name the VP.


76 posted on 03/09/2012 5:16:46 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Dick Cheney!


77 posted on 03/09/2012 5:17:42 PM PST by Tax-chick (Maybe it IS about contraception. Read "Planned Parenthood v. Casey" decision, 1992.)
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To: Tax-chick

LOL!


78 posted on 03/09/2012 5:19:45 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Tax-chick

And the POTUS is Saul Alinsky : )


79 posted on 03/09/2012 5:20:41 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

For the rest of his life, at least.


80 posted on 03/09/2012 5:20:58 PM PST by Tax-chick (Maybe it IS about contraception. Read "Planned Parenthood v. Casey" decision, 1992.)
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To: Tax-chick

Yeah......cadavers r us : )


81 posted on 03/09/2012 5:21:51 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Vigilanteman

I’d pay to hear one of them say that. I’d also pay to hear the idiot journalists reply.


82 posted on 03/09/2012 5:46:06 PM PST by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: xkaydet65
Of the 103 students who were confirmed in 2001 only my daughter and two or three others were to be seen at Sunday Mass less than two years later.These are the 43% and that number IMO is low.

Sadly, I have to agree with you. I TAUGHT in our Parish's Confirmation program over the last two years, and I wonder how much they actually learned. I do know that most of them never attended Mass before, during, or after the classes, and still haven't since Confirmation. Of course, before they were driving, it wasn't entirely their fault. Their parents weren't catechized properly, so they hardly ever went to Mass themselves. Sports and family activities always seem to take precedence, and Mass and Parish activities were less important.

I can only hope anything I said might have touched them, and someday they'll make their way back. They will have to battle their peers and the popular culture if they do want to live their faith.

83 posted on 03/09/2012 8:34:14 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: NYer

Wow, the temerity of CNN’s reporters.


84 posted on 03/12/2012 12:03:42 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Future Snake Eater

“At the beginning of Creation, God made them Male and Female.” - Jesus : Mark 10:6


85 posted on 03/12/2012 8:16:07 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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