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1 posted on 03/09/2012 1:56:41 PM PST by NYer
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Yet, as Blessed John Paul II observed, the future of humanity passes by way of the family (cf. Familiaris Consortio, 85). Indeed, “the good that the Church and society as a whole expect from marriage and from the family founded on marriage is so great as to call for full pastoral commitment to this particular area. Marriage and the family are institutions that must be promoted and defended from every possible misrepresentation of their true nature, since whatever is injurious to them is injurious to society itself” (Sacramentum Caritatis, 29). In this regard, particular mention must be made of the powerful political and cultural currents seeking to alter the legal definition of marriage. The Church’s conscientious effort to resist this pressure calls for a reasoned defense of marriage as a natural institution consisting of a specific communion of persons, essentially rooted in the complementarity of the sexes and oriented to procreation. Sexual differences cannot be dismissed as irrelevant to the definition of marriage. Defending the institution of marriage as a social reality is ultimately a question of justice, since it entails safeguarding the good of the entire human community and the rights of parents and children alike.
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2 posted on 03/09/2012 1:58:25 PM PST by NYer (He who hides in his heart the remembrance of wrongs is like a man who feeds a snake on his chest. St)
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Because it would be promoting sin and the church should not take that path.

How effen stupid are these “journalists”?


3 posted on 03/09/2012 1:58:30 PM PST by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To compormise with evil is to become evil oneself.


4 posted on 03/09/2012 1:58:50 PM PST by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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The thinking man opts for the wisdom of the ages over the spirit of the age every time.


5 posted on 03/09/2012 2:00:04 PM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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On board with the minority?


9 posted on 03/09/2012 2:03:53 PM PST by MNDude
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There is a biblical basis for government acting under majority rule:

Mark 15:6-15

New International Version (NIV)

6 Now it was the custom at the festival to release a prisoner whom the people requested. 7 A man called Barabbas was in prison with the insurrectionists who had committed murder in the uprising. 8 The crowd came up and asked Pilate to do for them what he usually did.

9 “Do you want me to release to you the king of the Jews?” asked Pilate, 10 knowing it was out of self-interest that the chief priests had handed Jesus over to him. 11 But the chief priests stirred up the crowd to have Pilate release Barabbas instead.

12 “What shall I do, then, with the one you call the king of the Jews?” Pilate asked them.

13 “Crucify him!” they shouted.

14 “Why? What crime has he committed?” asked Pilate.

But they shouted all the louder, “Crucify him!”

15 Wanting to satisfy the crowd, Pilate released Barabbas to them. He had Jesus flogged, and handed him over to be crucified.


10 posted on 03/09/2012 2:04:21 PM PST by Raycpa
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Because it would be sinful and contrary to the Christ’s teaching?


11 posted on 03/09/2012 2:07:03 PM PST by SandyInSeattle (Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface)
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Why not get on board? Because God isn’t PC. The Bible is clear about the fate of practicing homosexuals.

Stupid people like this CNN reporter make my brain sad.


13 posted on 03/09/2012 2:07:34 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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Really, why not change the name of the Church to “The Church of Whass Happenin’ Now”

Let’s take polls and vote every month on what we should believe. Morality to be determined by majority rule


14 posted on 03/09/2012 2:07:47 PM PST by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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I have a counter question:

“What if we could cure homosexuality? Do homosexuals that wish to be heterosexual, but cannot on their own, have the right to advocate for a cure without political reprisal?

Today, if the Church announced that it was funding an effort into the causes of homosexuality in pursuit of a cure, would we be met with anyting other than scorn?

We could do more research into whether pedophilia and homosexuality are related, and research or therapeutic approaches into one may reveal insights into the others.”


15 posted on 03/09/2012 2:08:45 PM PST by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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The only proper response to this harpy’s suggestions is “Get thee behind me, Satan.”


16 posted on 03/09/2012 2:09:21 PM PST by Argus
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Every time the question of "gay marriage" is raised, I think, what if God had a real perverse sense of humor and took a rib from Adam and created Bill.

No need for the devil, the human race would have non-procreated it self out of existence by two horny guys with two hairy butts.

The devil would have invented a woman, and God would still be laughing, saying ,"I created gayness and liberalism and now they want to be conservatives and have families".

There is no satisfying this "human" creature, I'm not sure I'll let my Son go down and try to save the miserable creatures.

17 posted on 03/09/2012 2:10:30 PM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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"Phillips had cited a statistic saying 43 percent of American Catholics favor gay marriage. "So, Bishop, times are changing. Views are changing."

Both Jesus and Paul warned us that in the last days many would fall away from the true faith and try to corrupt it. They also warned us not to follow this sign of the times - but to read it for what it is. ".....and those who find it are few."

21 posted on 03/09/2012 2:13:39 PM PST by circlecity
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Geeze, it didn't seem that Kyra Philips was listening to a single word the Bishop said. Because his Parish was not planning on actively campaigning for the defeat of the latest homosexual 'marriage' measure, she was interpreting this to mean that he was now supporting such depravity. Instead he said, repeatedly, that he was devoting their resources to shore up their ranks. Ideally teaching the Biblical basis of marriage (a gift of God, who made man and woman to be joined as one).
And I'd have to agree with the Bishop on this point. We can try to pass whatever measures we want, and elect whomever we want -- but if the foundation is crumbling, due to a people who no longer revere and worship God, it doesn't matter who is at the top -- the building will come crumbling down. So if the Bishop wants to focus his efforts on teaching his flock - his efforts are well spent.

As far as responding to Kyra Philip's question as to why he wasn't joining the ranks of the 43% of Catholics who allegedly support homosexual marriages, the Bishop should have just pointed out that it is wrong to support anyone marching off to an eternity in hell: 99% could support it, but he would not.

23 posted on 03/09/2012 2:16:55 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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This reads like the dialogue from "Full Metal Jacket":

Colonel: Now answer my question or you'll be standing tall before the man.

Private Joker: I think I was trying to suggest something about the duality of man, sir.

Colonel: The what?

Private Joker: The duality of man. The Jungian thing, sir.

Colonel: Whose side are you on, son?

Private Joker: Our side, sir.

Colonel: Don't you love your country?

Private Joker: Yes, sir.

Colonel: Then how about getting with the program? Why don't you jump on the team and come on in for the big win?

Private Joker: Yes, sir.

Colonel: Son, all I've ever asked of my Marines is that they obey my orders as they would the word of God. We are here to help the Vietnamese, because inside every gook there is an American trying to get out. It's a hardball world, son. We've gotta keep our heads until this peace craze blows over.

Private Joker: Aye-aye, sir.


27 posted on 03/09/2012 2:21:29 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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Get on board the soul train.

The soul train to Hell.


28 posted on 03/09/2012 2:23:37 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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I must have missed the part in Scripture where it says, “Take ye a vote on what’s a sin”...

Wow. You can’t explain right and wrong to somebody who doesn’t get it.


29 posted on 03/09/2012 2:24:01 PM PST by jagusafr ("Write in Palin and prepare for war...")
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If Kyra Phillips is a Catholic, she must be of the cafeteria type. Obviously has never read or understand the Bible.


31 posted on 03/09/2012 2:25:30 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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This question never has and never will be asked by the MSM to any Muslim.

While the MSM is busy trashing Christianity with all their might and force, they are busy portraying the murdering, wife beating, pedophiles, psychopaths, as lovey peaceful people.

All in the name of objectivity...of course.

The next time anything is done to the Catholic Church, the first response has to be, "Let the Muslims do it first." Muslims will never support contraception or gay-anything. Muslims will never support any of the loony-tune nonsense coming from the Left. And, so far, they have never been asked to. The focus of the MSM is always exclusively on Christians.

38 posted on 03/09/2012 2:38:31 PM PST by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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Islam shares the same exact view on homosexuality.

Liberals are Islamaphobic.


39 posted on 03/09/2012 2:38:52 PM PST by NoLibZone (Liberal concern for womens rights is fake. I submit their love of Bill Maher as proof.)
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