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Wisconsin recall elections something of a mess
Hot Air.com ^ | March 10, 2012 | JAZZ SHAW

Posted on 03/10/2012 7:31:55 AM PST by Kaslin

Lest we lose sight of it amid all of the presidential primary news, Wisconsin is going to hold some recall elections. The people have spoken! Petitions have been gathered and now the democratic process will play out in true blue American fashion. So… just when will we be seeing these elections take place? Even the people in charge don’t seem to be exactly sure.

The head of the Wisconsin state elections board recommended Friday that any recall elections against Gov. Scott Walker and five other Republicans be held on May 15 and June 12…

The full board was to discuss the issue Monday and if it agrees, ask a Dane County judge for more time on Wednesday.

The attorney for Democrats who launched the recall efforts said he would oppose the request in court.

“That seems totally unreasonable and unnecessary and it would change the character of the election,” attorney Jeremy Levinson said. Democrats have consistently argued the recalls should be held as soon as possible.

Republican Party spokesman Ben Sparks refused to comment on the proposed election dates. Instead, he reiterated the party’s position that multiple recalls be held on the same dates to cut down on election expenses. The elections board has also advocated for scheduling only two election dates.

Under the last order we heard about, a primary would be held on May 1st and the general election on May 29th. And let’s not forget that the Badger State has a presidential primary coming up on April 3rd. Are you starting to see why the Republicans might be having some questions which have nothing to do with whether or not the governor is facing a recall?

Wisconsinites (is that even a word?) are now looking at holding three different statewide elections in less than sixty days. Somebody has to pay for all of that, and it’s not as if they’re rolling in money as it is. Oddly enough, astute observers may recall that this is one of the reasons Walker ran in the first place.

Speaking of which, the Democrats who collected all of those recall signatures are still crying foul play regarding Walker’s performance vs his campaign promises. How could anyone have known that the guy was going to go all Walker Texas Ranger on the unions once he got into office? They were tricked!

Earlier this week, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported that one of the Democrats hoping to challenge Walker, Kathleen Falk, “repeatedly accused Walker of being dishonest during his 2010 campaign, citing as a prime example his decision to all but eliminate collective bargaining for most public workers even though he didn’t talk about it during his run for office.”

Pretty sneaky, Governor Walker. How did you ever get them to fall for that trick? Oh… that’s right. You told everyone you were going to do it while on the campaign trail.

Yet an August 2010 Sentinel article, written in the heat of Walker’s run for governor, explored his reform plans. Even back then, unions were already signaling their overwhelming opposition:

The state’s powerful teachers union opposes Walker’s plan and is signaling a fight over it if Walker is elected and moves the idea forward.

“Our members oppose taking away their rights to collective bargaining, so they would definitely raise their voices against it,” Christina Brey, speaking for the Wisconsin Education Association Council, said of Walker’s plan.

The August 2010 article went on to say:

Ryan Murray, campaign policy adviser for Walker…said school districts often have some of the most expensive health benefits in Wisconsin and could receive cheaper insurance through the state if they didn’t have to negotiate with unions about who would insure their members.

“The way the proposal would work is we would take the choice out of the collective bargaining process,” Murray said.

I suppose we should feel a little sympathy for Ms. Falk and her current state of confusion. After all, this is American politics we’re talking about here. They’re probably not used to seeing politicians run for office and then actually do what they said they would do once they’re elected. Who could have seen that coming?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: scottwalker; wisconsin

1 posted on 03/10/2012 7:31:59 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Marxists thrive on chaos and confusion.


2 posted on 03/10/2012 7:43:22 AM PST by oldbrowser (They are Marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: oldbrowser

just wait ,there will be a problem with Walkers paper work ,so sorry can’t run it this one.


3 posted on 03/10/2012 7:51:19 AM PST by molson209
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Kaslin.

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4 posted on 03/10/2012 8:12:02 AM PST by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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To: Kaslin
Wisconsin recall elections something of a mess

Create a problem and then create a greater problem alleviating the effects of the first problem created and so on and on it goes in a liberal Utopia....

5 posted on 03/10/2012 8:13:56 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Kaslin

I love the smell of union money circling the drain in the morning.


6 posted on 03/10/2012 8:15:38 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopaths.)
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Earlier this week, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported that one of the Democrats hoping to challenge Walker, Kathleen Falk, "repeatedly accused Walker of being dishonest during his 2010 campaign, citing as a prime example his decision to all but eliminate collective bargaining for most public workers even though he didn't talk about it during his run for office." Pretty sneaky, Governor Walker. How did you ever get them to fall for that trick? Oh... that's right. You told everyone you were going to do it while on the campaign trail... an August 2010 Sentinel article, written in the heat of Walker's run for governor, explored his reform plans.
IOW, Kathleen Falk is just a liar.


7 posted on 03/10/2012 8:15:59 AM PST by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Related...

http://www.exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2012/03/wisconsin-voters-now-oppose-walker.html


8 posted on 03/10/2012 8:20:03 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: Kaslin

I firmly believe that ifthey succeed in taking Walker down, it is all over for America. And I am not exaggerating. Not only do I believe Walker to be a great Goverrnor, I hope he runs for President one day...


9 posted on 03/10/2012 8:23:03 AM PST by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesH)
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To: Kaslin

The GAB did everything it could to obfuscate and delay access to the recall petitions, and now it’s whining because it needs more time to do it’s job. It’s a freak show of incompetence and the once good thing out of all this is, the people of WI are so frustrated and fed-up over it all that there WILL be reform of the recall process, hopefully sooner rather than later.

The other good news is that the DEM challenger to Gov. Walker (Kathleen Falk) is a huge lib, and pretty well despised outside the Mad City. A Nancy Pelosi of the Cow Pasture, you might say...and meanwhile Walker’s reforms are producing jobs at the same time the partisan RATs blew both feet off and alienated their Union Pals by killing the mining bill. Who’d have thunk even THEY were that dumb??


10 posted on 03/10/2012 8:36:16 AM PST by bigbob
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To: bigbob

If Wisconsin recalls Walker, the people of that State deserves everything that happens. The Unions are nothing but a bunch of moochers, thugs and crooks. Wisconsin will look like Detroit in a short time.


11 posted on 03/10/2012 8:41:55 AM PST by baiamonte
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To: Kaslin; SunkenCiv; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; GOPsterinMA; randita; Sun; ...

“So… just when will we be seeing these elections take place? Even the people in charge don’t seem to be exactly sure.”

Hopefully this will turn even more people against the recall. A Scott Walker landslide would be priceless.


12 posted on 03/10/2012 9:03:21 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: Kaslin; oldbrowser
If they were winning, the recall would be tomorrow.

They know they are losing. The only way they can win is if they make it difficult for an average citizen to vote while they foist an organized and dishonestly inflated effort. This is about cutting citizen participation with lies, confusion, and fatigue, in that order. How do citizens vote if they don't know when or where?

If Walker holds on, he should purge the entire department of elections, decertify its union (ala Reagan), and start over. If there is a recall process for judges, he should make up a list and get going. This is war. It's time to stop playing like it isn't.

13 posted on 03/10/2012 9:14:50 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
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To: Carry_Okie

The Milwaukee DA has been investigating Walker’s county administration staff for the past year and a half. They may or may not have informed Walker that he us a target, but it is obvious the intent is to cast doubt on Walker right up until the June 12th election.


14 posted on 03/10/2012 9:29:42 AM PST by irish guard
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To: irish guard

The Slave Party doesn’t have to “pull out all the stops.” There aren’t any.


15 posted on 03/10/2012 9:48:22 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
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To: Kaslin
This year-long circus couldn't be happening without hundreds of millions in union dollars skimmed by corrupt bosses like AFL-CIO’s Rick Trumpka and SEIU’s Mary Kay Henry from the toil of workers.

Unions can't exist in today's labor market without compulsory membership, compulsory dues, workplace intimidation and corrupt public officials. The average taxpayer of both parties is learning that public union pension insolvency threatens the survival of government on all levels. Having the majority of rank-and-file news media unionized obscures the growing danger.

The “Stimulas,” ObamaCare and Dodd-Frank were designed primarily to create new bureaucratic monoliths which will be staffed by employees who are union members and Democrats. Only when viewed in that light do these mammoth Rube Goldberg contraptions make sense.

Whether he survives or not Governor Walker, along with Christie, Daniels and others have become the model of what a post-corruption, post-union governor looks like. God bless them all.

16 posted on 03/10/2012 10:23:24 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

“A Scot Walker landslide would be priceless.”

If that were the case, widespread irregularities, disenfranchisement, and general election fraud would be charged on the part of the Republicans.

(The only acceptable outcome to Progressives would be a loss by Mr. Walker.)

IMHO


17 posted on 03/10/2012 2:00:26 PM PST by ripley
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To: Kaslin; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; TaMoDee; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; ...

Wisconsin Recall Election Ping

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.


18 posted on 03/10/2012 5:02:12 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: SunkenCiv

You posted links to a lefty poll and lefty websites.
Why?


19 posted on 03/10/2012 5:23:01 PM PST by Jean S
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To: Jean S

Walker isn’t losing the base. Period.


20 posted on 03/10/2012 6:39:56 PM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: Jean S

I posted two links to outside support for Scott Walker, and one link to a sidebar topic here on FR. I deliberately chose not to make those lefty ones live.


21 posted on 03/10/2012 9:11:10 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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To: ripley; Clintonfatigued; Diana in Wisconsin

No, people can bitch and moan about a close result. But there’s nothing to do after a big defeat but hang your head.


22 posted on 03/10/2012 11:58:54 PM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Kaslin
Judging by the validity of the names on the Recall Petitions, I recommend they hold the Election on Mickey Mouse's Birthday.
23 posted on 03/11/2012 12:09:36 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: Kaslin
Are the RATs trying to figure out a way to cheat without getting caught?
Or maybe they're stalling to the point where they'll want the election
so fast that after all the fake ballots are counted they'll throw the blame at Repubs for
trying to steal the election they stole.
24 posted on 03/11/2012 12:15:45 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: Impy

“No, people can bitch and moan about a close result. But there’s nothing to do after a big defeat but hang your head.”

Progressives don’t accept election results without claiming unfairness, disenfranchisement, racism, or whatever works in order to get a Progressive judge to make a decision about who won.

IMHO


25 posted on 03/11/2012 6:21:16 AM PDT by ripley
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To: oldbrowser

However, the combination of the vileness of the Union’s reaction and the viciousness of the rhetoric, I believe the Unions have jumped the shark. Now everyone knows exactly what they stand for, legal theft.
BTW, I can’t wait to see what the long term reaction to the mining debacle is going to be...You betcha there will be fallout!
We are facing the same thing here in Gnu Yak...I can’t believe that Andrew Cuomo is going Scott Walker on the Unions here...It has been fun to watch. When faced with REALITY, the change even in the Democrats is astounding!


26 posted on 03/11/2012 7:16:16 AM PDT by Shady (The undeniable truth of the Obama Administration...The numbers do not lie.)
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To: Kaslin

27 posted on 03/11/2012 5:51:47 PM PDT by 4Liberty (88% of Americans are NON-UNION. We value honest, peaceful Free trade-NOT protectionist CARTELS)
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