Skip to comments.14 Bald-Faced Mitt Romney Flip-Flops That Were Dug Up By John McCain
Posted on 03/10/2012 2:00:07 PM PST by SoConPubbie
Last night, BuzzFeed got a hold of the 2008 John McCain campaign's research book on Mitt Romney. In over 200 painstakingly researched pages, it notes every slip-up, political fib, and potential liability for Romney going forward.
And of course it picks apart all the times Romney has said one thing, and then when the political winds changed, said something else.
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#1 On Immigration - For A Path To Citizenship, Then Against
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FLIP: Gov. Mitt Romney expressed support ... for an immigration program that places large numbers of illegal residents on the path toward citizenship ... Romney said illegal immigrants should have a chance to obtain citizenship. (Evan Lehmann, Romney Supports Immigration Program, But Not Granting Amnesty, The Lowell Sun, 3/30/06)
FLOP: [I] think Im best off to describe my own positions. And my positions, I think Ive just described for you secure the border, employment verification and no special pathway to citizenship. I feel thats the course we ought to take. (CNNs The Situation Room, 5/22/07)
2) On George W. Bush’s Tax-Cuts
FLIP: [R]omney spoke at the 10th annual legislative conference organized by U.S. Rep. Martin T. Meehan (D-Lowell) and met with the Massachusetts delegation. ... Congressional sources said that a point of contention arose when Romney refused to take a position on Bushs massive, 10-year tax cut plan. (Noelle Straub, Romney Talks Policy With Bush Staffers, Mass. Delegation, Boston Herald, 4/11/03)
FLOP: “McCain opposed President Bushs tax cuts, Romney noted. I supported them, the former governor said. (Lee Bandy, Romney Targeting McCain, The State [SC], 2/4/07)
3) Anti-Reagan then, now Pro-Reagan.
FLIP: I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. Im not trying to return to Reagan- Bush, Mitt Romney said during a debate with Ted Kennedy
FLOP: “’Ronald Reagan is one of my heroes,’ Romney said as he praised Reagans strategy for winning the Cold War: We win; they lose. (Michael Levenson, Romney Links Gay Marriage, US Prestige, The Boston Globe, 2/26/05)
4) On The National Rifle Association And Gun Laws
FLIP: [Romney] said he will take stands that put him at odds with some traditional ultra- conservative groups, and cited his support for the assault rifle ban and the Brady gun control law. Thats not going to make me the hero of the NRA, he said. I dont line up with a lot of special interest groups. (Andrew Miga, Mitt Rejects Right-Wing Aid, Boston Herald, 9/23/94)
FLOP: Romney told a Derry, N.H., audience, Im after the NRAs endorsement. Im not sure theyll give it to me. I hope they will. I also joined because if Im going to ask for their endorsement, theyre going to ask for mine. (Glen Johnson, Romney Calls Himself A Longtime Hunter, The Associated Press, 4/5/07)
5) On Whether He Even Owns A Gun (This story changed within just a few days)
The Iowa Republican
FLIP: “I have a gun of my own. I go hunting myself. Im a member of the NRA and believe firmly in the right to bear arms,” Romney said. (Glenn And Helen Show, www.glennandhelenshow.com, 1/10/07)
FLOP: “Asked by reporters at the gun show Friday whether he personally owned a gun, Romney said he did not. He said one of his sons, Josh, keeps two guns at the family vacation home in Utah, and he uses them from time to time. (Scott Helman, Romney Retreats On Gun Control, The Boston Globe, 1/14/07)
6) Is the planet warming? Mitt probably agreed with you at one time or another.
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FLIP: “I think the global warming debate is now pretty much over and people recognize the need associated with providing sources which do not generate the heat that is currently provided by fossil fuels ... (Jack Coleman, Massachusetts Governor Urges Use Of Alternative Energy, Cape Cod Times, 3/14/03)
I concur that climate change is beginning to [have an] effect on our natural resources and that now is the time to take action ... (Romney OK With Plan On Emissions, Boston Herald, 7/24/03)
FLOP: I have to tell you with regards to global warming that thats something, which, youre right, the scientists havent entirely resolved, but no question about one thing, its getting warmer, and a lot of good reasons for us to use less energy, to use it more efficiently and to develop sources here in this country that could allow us to be more independent of foreign sources. (CNBCs Kudlow & Company, 2/7/07)
Unfortunately, some in the Republican Party are embracing the radical environmental ideas of the liberal left. As governor, I found that thoughtful environmentalism need not be anti-growth and anti-jobs. But Kyoto-style sweeping mandates, imposed unilaterally in the United States, would kill jobs, depress growth and shift manufacturing to the dirtiest developing nations. Republicans should never abandon pro-growth conservative principles in an effort to embrace the ideas of Al Gore. (Romney For President, Press Release, 2/23/07)
7) Don’t Ask Don’t Tell? Don’t Ask Mitt Romney
FLIP: In 1994 [Romney] called President Bill Clintons dont ask, dont tell military policy the first of a number of steps that will ultimately lead to gays and lesbians being able to serve openly and honestly in our nations military. (Dan Balz and Shailagh Murray, Mass. Governors Rightward Shift Raises Questions, The Washington Post, 12/21/06)
FLOP: [Romney] defended his policy switch on gays in the military. He said when he first heard the phrase dont ask, dont tell, he thought it was kind of a silly phrase that didnt make a lot of sense. But the last 10 years have convinced him that the policy is working and there is no reason to change it, he said. (Alexa Aguilar, Romney Campaigns In Chicago, Chicago Tribune, 4/12/07)
8) Has your position on same-sex marriage changed? So has Mitt Romney’s.
FLIP: When a 2002 Constitutional Amendment was proposed to ban same-sex marriage, Romney opposed it. Romneys family members signed the petition to put it on the ballot without reading the fine print, [Romney aide Eric] Fehrnstrom said, but he has no reason to believe they do not support it. Mitt did not know they signed it, and Mitt does not support it, he said. As far as Mitt is concerned, it goes farther than current law, and therefore its unnecessary. (Rick Klein, Romney Kin Signed Petition To Ban Same-Sex Marriage, The Boston Globe, 3/22/02)
FLOP: Just two weeks before lawmakers resume a Constitutional Convention to vote on a proposed ballot initiative to ban same-sex marriage, Gov. Mitt Romney will stand with the supporters of the measure to call on the Legislature to back it. Romney will join petition backers in a State House press event today to urge the Legislature to pass the Protection of Marriage Amendment when the Constitutional Convention reconvenes July 12, authorizing a 2008 ballot question asking voters to define marriage as between one man and one woman. (Kimberly Atkins and Kate Gibson, Mitt Joining Supporters Of Anti-Gay Wed Initiative, Boston Herald, 6/28/06)
9) On embryonic stem cell research, Romney’s still developing a fully-formed position.
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FLIP: Speaking at a bioethics forum, GOP gubernatorial hopeful Mitt Romney yesterday endorsed embryonic stem cell research ... [Romney] endorsed embryonic stem cell research, saying the controversial science might one day help treat his wifes multiple sclerosis in addition to numerous other degenerative diseases. ... Romney spoke extensively about his position on stem cell research, which also involves embryo destruction. (Raja Mishra, Romney Endorses Stem Cell Research, Is Silent On Cloning, The Boston Globe, 6/14/02)
FLOP: ...On Feb. 10, 2005 ... Romney came out strongly against the cloning technique ... He vowed to press for legislation to criminalize the work. Romneys opposition stunned scientists, lawmakers, and observers because of his past statements endorsing, at least in general terms, embryonic stem cell research. (Scott Helman, Romneys Journey To The Right, The Boston Globe, 12/17/06)
10) Favorite Book? Well, that depends.
FLIP: FOX NEWS MARTHA MCCALLUM: And an interesting response to his favorite novel. ROMNEY: Actually the one by L. Ron Hubbard, I hate to think ... Im not in favor of his religion by any means, but he wrote a book called Battlefield Earth that was a very fun science fiction book. (Fox News Fox & Friends, 4/30/07)
FLOP (Maybe just a hedge): “Asked about his comments during a Fox News interview Monday that L. Ron Hubbards ‘Battlefield Earth’ is his favorite novel, Romney said Huckleberry Finn is his favorite fiction and that the book by Hubbard, who founded Scientology, is his favorite science fiction reading. (Mary Anne Ostrom, Education Should Determine Immigrants Legal Status, Mitt Romney Says, The [San Jose, CA] Mercury News, 5/1/07)
11) His Own Health-Care Initiative. He’s Not Sure About That Either.
FLIP: “In a Colonial-era hall, with a fife-and-drum corps marching in with him, Gov. Mitt Romney (R) signed a bill Wednesday requiring all Massachusetts residents to purchase health insurance — portraying the measure as a historic solution to health-care costs, even as questions emerge about whether the state can afford it. The signing [was] staged with a near-presidential attention to theatrics and slogan-bearing banners... (David A. Fahrenthold, Mass. Marks Health-Care Milestone, The Washington Post, 4/13/06)
FLOP: “As governor of Massachusetts he signed a bipartisan law intended to ensure that every resident has coverage. Romney touted it as an innovative free-market solution. Yet these days, Romney ... is much more likely to present his states universal coverage law as not a model to copy but an example for other states to learn from. Hes now a critic of his own biggest achievement. (Sean Higgins, Ex-Gov. Romney Keeps Distance From His Own Mass. Health Plan, Investors Business Daily, 3/7/07)
12) Tax Pledges are beneath Romney, until the presidency was in front of him.
FLIP: Four years ago, Mitt Romney broke with GOP tradition and refused to sign the [Americans for Tax Reform] pledge [to oppose and veto any and all efforts to increase taxes]. (Lisa Wangsness, Healey Will Sign Antitax Pledge, The Boston Globe, 9/4/06)
Romneys Gubernatorial Campaign Spokesman, Eric Fehrnstrom, Dismissed Such Pledges At The Time As Government By Gimmickry. (Scott Helman, Romney Finds No New Taxes Promise Suits Him After All, The Boston Globe, 1/5/07)
FLOP: Almost five years after he refused to sign a no new taxes pledge during his campaign for governor, Mitt Romney announced ... that he had done just that, as his campaign for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination began in earnest. (Scott Helman, Romney Finds No New Taxes Promise Suits Him After All, The Boston Globe, 1/5/07)
13) Money in politics? Sometimes its good, sometimes it is bad.
FLIP: Romney also said he advocates spending limits on congressional elections, even suggesting that the current race against Sen. Edward M. Kennedy should have a $6 million spending cap. (Frank Phillips, Romney, Vowing To Live It, Touts Congress Reform Plan, The Boston Globe, 7/27/94)
“[Mitt Romney] once touted dramatic restructuring measures such as taxing political contributions and placing spending limits on federal campaigns. (Alexander Bolton, Romneys About-Face On Campaign Funding, The Hill, 2/8/07)
FLOP: Romney noted his foe from Arizona wrote the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform law that restricts certain types of contributions. Thats a terrible piece of legislation, Romney said. It hasnt taken the money out of politics. ... (But) it has hurt my party. (Lee Bandy, Romney Targeting McCain, The State, 2/4/07)
14) NOW THE BIG ONE: During his 1994 Senate Run, Mitt Romney argued that he was more pro-choice than Ted Kennedy
FLIP: When Kennedy called him multiple choice, Romney demanded an extra rebuttal. He revealed that a close relative died of an illegal abortion years ago and said, Since that time, my mother and my family have been committed to the belief that we can believe as we want, but we will not force our beliefs on others on that matter, and you will not see me wavering on that. (Joan Vennochi, Romneys Revolving World, The Boston Globe, 3/2/06)
I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time that my mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a US Senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years we should sustain and support it. (Joan Vennochi, Romneys Revolving World, The Boston Globe, 3/2/06)
14) (continued) When he went to conservative Utah, that tune changed.
FLOP: When I am asked if I am pro-choice or pro-life, I say I refuse to accept either label. (Glen Warchol, This Is The Place, But Politics May Lead Romneys Elsewhere, The Salt Lake Tribune, 2/14/99)
14 (continued) But I’m running for office in Massachusetts again, so I’m pro-choice again
FLIP: I will preserve and protect a womans right to choose, and am devoted and dedicated to honoring my word in that regard. I will not change any provisions of Massachusetts pro-choice laws. (2002 Romney-OBrien Gubernatorial Debate, Suffolk University, Boston, MA, 10/29/02)
In 2002, Romney Offered His Completed NARAL Questionnaire, Filled Out With Mostly Abortion-Rights Positions, To The Media Even Before Returning It To NARAL. Yesterday, Romney also aimed to head off confusion about his stance on abortion rights by answering a Mass National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League questionnaire with mostly abortion-rights positions. He offered the questionnaire to the press even before he returned it to MassNARAL...
14 (continued) FLOP: Then he started thinking of national office as a Republican. ANd he happened to have a revelation
FLOP: “Romney said he had a change of heart on the issue after speaking with a stem-cell researcher, Dr. Douglas Melton. Romney claims Melton said Look, you dont have to think about this stem cell research as a moral issue, because we kill the embryos after 14 days.
It hit me very hard that we had so cheapened the value of human life in a Roe v. Wade environment that it was important to stand for the dignity of human life, Romney says. (Karen Tumulty, What Romney Believes, Time, 5/21/07)
SoConPubbie, I actually find it refreshing that someone here is actually attacking Romney instead of Santorum for a change, so don’t take this wrong.
Have you seen the list of Newt’s flip-flopping?
If Mitt is unacceptable because of it, wouldn’t someone else doing it be unacceptable?
Some of Newt’s flip-flops
Newt’s quotes on Reagan:
Sorry, that first link should have been to here...
One gets the impression that if you asked Milt what he had for dinner the night before, he would tell one person steak and another chicken. He seems like he shifts on absolutely everything.
Why are you ignoring the one who CAMPAIGNED for the KNOWN flip flopper? That would be more honest if that’s what you are into.
As a regular contributor here, you know damn well that the Santorum folks were discouraged from talking frankly about Newt, so get off your high-horse.
If something is bad for one candidate to do, it’s bad for every candidate to do.
If long lists of things can be posted here about Santorum, then it should be reasoned to post what others have done.
Why are you ignoring the dynamics of that campaign and who eventually won it? I couldn’t vote for the guy who won. Could you?
For that matter, I’m not convinced I could vote for Romney either.
I don’t support Santorum’s decision, but it is of interest to me how everything Newt is forgiven, and everything Santorum is a massive scandal.
Is Santorum someone I’d generally support? No. I can say the same thing for Newt. And I for darned sure can say that about Romney.
None of these three people deserve our support when you get right down to it. We’re stuck with a very disgusting dilema this year.
Okay, then please link me to where you have said this once to a person ripping Santorum to shreds.
Have you even done that on this thread? I didn’t see it.
If the GOP is what they want us to believe, they would say to Mitt, you do not represent us in any way with your Romney care - just on that one issue alone. You have no future with us. They are doing just the opposite.
We have one party in this nation disguised as two.
I haven’t seen one person taken to task for posting incredible crud about Santorum here.
As I said, please link me to where you have criticized folks for attacking Santorum here. If you have I’ll be more than willing to extend and apology to you.
I support both Santorum and Gingrich, so I’m not interested in “ripping” either one to “shreds”.
At the same time, I do think that truth is fair game. What is the definition of truth: unarguable, unalterable fact.
It would be truth to say that Newt Gingrich sat with Nancy Pelosi to promote environmental issues.
It would be falsehood to suggest that Newt had the same environmental positions as did Nancy Pelosi.
It is true that Santorum voted to raise the debt limit.
It is falsehood to suggest that Santorum believes in massive borrowing.
I am convinced and NEVER will romney get my vote - even under penalty of death. That's how convinced I am. I will not vote for satan disguised in a suit.
I'll vote for NEWT for my country. He loves it more than I do - he spent his life learning about her and damns others who play with her for their own selfish needs.
I would appreciate it if you would accept that this response is not an attempt to give you a hard time. I want to explain where I am coming from. I honestly don’t have a beef with you.
For weeks now I have watched Santorum attacked with a scorched earth policy. Nobody stepped in to stop it. Long lists were posted, with supposed infractions. I uncovered lies in the list, and the poster continued to post the same thing anyway.
I have not seen anything near the same concerted effort to reveal Newt’s past. If folks say they have that impression, I don’t think they’re being objective about it.
I am not upset with you. I don’t have a problem with what you are trying to advocate for here, but I do expect to see Santorum trashed at length in the same manner I have seen in the recent past.
I have decided to push back a bit, and all of a sudden we need to play nice. LOL, since when?
Even on this very thread someone was saying something unflattering about Santorum, and it went unresponded to by anyone but me.
My only exception to agreement with your comments, would be Gingrich’s views on global warming and how much his views actually do differ from hers.
On several related topics this afternoon, I posted some of this public views. If you haven’t already, you might want to look them up.
I’m not going to post that information across the forum in unrelated threads.
I appreciate your reasoned comments from your perspective.
I came here to read the truth about that lying Romney and all I’ve seen is you crying about the “Mom likes him best” treatment for Newt and not Santorum.
I’ve told the truth about Newt in the past and I’m still here. This thread isn’t about Santorum. In fact, it’s not about Newt. This thread is about that lying POS Romney. This is not the time to be trashing any conservatives. Both Santorum and Newt are the conservatives left in the race. We need to support them both. Some people like Santorum best, some people like Newt best. They should both stay in so that Romney loses the maximum number of votes and delegates.
When you whine and cry, you are not helping Santorum one bit. You make him look weak. Neither Newt nor Santorum are my ideal conservative candidate. They both have flaws. But they are both better than Obama or Obama’s white twin. Stop working for Romney. Stop making Santorum look bad. The same should go for any people whining on Newt’s behalf as well.
SoCon has done a great job presenting the ways of the enemy of conservatism — Mitt Romney. We have to come together to defeat him. Succeeding there, we can go on together and defeat Obama. Quit crying! Support the conservatives in this election!
Curious- do you think this usage of Ms. Pelosi is proper?
“Santorum also took on Gingrich obliquely, reminding the crowd that he and his own wife, Karen, have been married 21 years and home-schooled their seven children. On Friday, he was less subtle in drawing an implicit contrast with Gingrich’s history of marital infidelity, castigating him for sitting on a sofa next to Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco) in a TV ad calling for steps to address climate change.
“I didn’t sit on the couch with anybody,” Santorum said. “I would only sit on the couch with my wife. Period. No other women particularly not Nancy Pelosi.”
Look, if flip-flopping is a bad thing, then it’s a bad thing.
Don’t come telling me I shouldn’t support a guy for flip-flopping, then get excited because I mention that someone else is a big flip-flopper.
And BTW, being truthful is not whining and crying, unless everyone who is being truthful is considered to be whining and crying.
As described, No. When it is addressed in the context with an unrelated Newt weak point, I think it’s ill advised.
Address it for what it is in context, and move on.
Making something out of it that it wasn’t, was not a proper thing to do.
I don't see Mitt as a republican - his actions/record prove otherwise. He 'says' he is, but he's also known as a liar. He 'says' alot about his record in the debates. I looked up the unemployment in MA during his years and it was nothing like he said it was. How many are just listening to him and nothing else. HE A POS!
I may not have felt as strong as I do now but there's a lot I didn't see before BUT my eyes are wide open now. I can't close them - I WILL NEVER vote for him, there isn't ANY doubt out it.
I'm voting for Newt and if most don't, it's not because NEWT still isn't the best candidate for AMERICA - it just voters don't see what I do. Let America go down on their vote - NEVER mine.
Remain?? He's seeking power.
I haven’t told you to support anyone. I’m just telling you that your behavior makes you look bad and that behavior makes your candidate of choice look bad. What is even worse, you did it on the thread that is supposed to be informing people about our real enemy, the socialist Romney.
Confusing that message and dumping on the thread poster is not good for you or Santorum.
It is whining and crying when it is out of place. Instead of hijacking a thread, start your own vanity thread and “tell the truth” there.
He’s too clueless for words. Did he sit right next to pro choice Specter? or campaign for pro abortion Romney? WAY WAY more damaging than ‘a couch’. Newt didn’t campaign for Pelosi.
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