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Centrist Women Tell of Disenchantment With G.O.P.
New York Times ^ | March 10, 2012 | SUSAN SAULNY

Posted on 03/11/2012 3:39:18 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

...somewhere between the baby name game and the gifts, what had been light conversation took a sharp turn toward the personal and political — specifically, the battle over access to birth control and other women’s health issues that have sprung to life on the Republican campaign trail in recent weeks.

“We all agreed that this seemed like a throwback to 40 years ago,” said Ms. Russell, 57, a retired teacher from Iowa City who describes herself as an evangelical Christian and “old school” Republican of the moderate mold.

Until the baby shower, just two weeks ago, she had favored Mitt Romney for president.

Not anymore. She said she might vote for President Obama now. “I didn’t realize I had a strong viewpoint on this until these conversations,” Ms. Russell said. As for the Republican presidential candidates, she added: “If they’re going to decide on women’s reproductive issues, I’m not going to vote for any of them. Women’s reproduction is our own business.”

.....Rick Santorum, a former senator from Pennsylvania who is one of Mr. Romney’s rivals for the nomination, created a tempest late last month by speaking out against prenatal testing. Earlier comments about women in combat and the role of “radical feminism” in encouraging work outside the home also left some women ill at ease.

“Everybody is so busy telling us how we should act in the bedroom, they’re letting the country fall through the cracks,” said Fran Kelley, a retired public school worker in Seattle who voted for Senator John McCain over Mr. Obama in the 2008 election. Of the Republican candidates this year, she added, “They’re nothing but hatemongers trying to control everyone, saying, ‘Live as I live.’...

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To: Cincinatus' Wife
From the classified advertisement section of the same New York Times edition:

Wanted: Liberal women willing to pose as 'centrist Republicans', who are so turned off by the influence of conservatives that they are voting for Barak Obama. Must be age 40-65 with no visible tatoos or piercings. No previous experience in voting for GOP candidates neccessary. Ownership of minivan desirable, but please cover all bumper stickers from 1998 election cycle. Free acting lessons provided. Frequent work available through November 5, 2012. No travel outside of mid-town Manhattan required. Contact S. Saulny of NYT for more details.

21 posted on 03/11/2012 4:34:14 AM PDT by CaptainMorgantown
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“Everybody is so busy telling us how we should act in the bedroom, they’re letting the country fall through the cracks,” said Fran Kelley, a retired public school worker in Seattle who voted for Senator John McCain

Several points:

1. Ms Kelley is an uninformed tool of the leftists - the leftists manufactured this diversionary flap of contraception. Just ask George Stephanopolous.

2. How believable is it that a retired female govermment drone, a teacher, who lives in Seattle, is a conservative? It's NOT. Most likely, she was swooning at Obama rallies in 2008.

3. The NYT would much rather propagandize on behalf of the White House usurper rather than investigate Fast and Furious gun running - right Pinchy?

22 posted on 03/11/2012 4:37:05 AM PDT by bkopto (Obama is merely a symptom of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
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To: Riley

What really gets me is their deeply held animosity against business. They don’t trust anyone who earns a living through their own efforts — who isn’t being paid from the public trough with guaranteed raises, vacations, and pensions. It has taken years for me to wake up to that fact. Now that I see it clearly, I understand better how we will never agree politically.

I wonder where they think the “public sector” gets its money to pay them? They never thought it through, that’s for sre.


23 posted on 03/11/2012 4:38:15 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why would a 57 year old woman need birth control? Most women are past the age of fertility by then.


24 posted on 03/11/2012 4:39:33 AM PDT by KingNo155
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To: bkopto

“How believable is it that a retired female govermment drone, a teacher, who lives in Seattle, is a conservative?”

How believable is it that any real “centrist” would even consider voting for Obama at this point?

“Centrist” = “Progressive” = “Liberal”


25 posted on 03/11/2012 4:43:11 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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26 posted on 03/11/2012 4:43:44 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
She said she might vote for President Obama now.

1. She is not a Republican.

2. She is a Liar.

3. She is a Public School teacher (Probably a Lib)

4. This is not about "birth control" it is about Obozo's direct assault on Religious Freedom granted by God and written in the U.S. Constitution in the 1st Amendment by the founders.

27 posted on 03/11/2012 4:44:10 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“If they’re going to decide on women’s reproductive issues, I’m not going to vote for any of them.

I think the NYT made this woman up. I've never heard anyone who wasn't a Women's Studies major talk like that.

28 posted on 03/11/2012 4:48:29 AM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: raybbr
That is what I think each time I see a obama sticker. “Another idiot”.Also I see more of them on vehicles occupied by White people than I do on vehicles occupied by Black people.
29 posted on 03/11/2012 4:50:24 AM PDT by sport
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To: usconservative

This is total bull. The NYT is trying to steer women away from the GOP like the good ole days of Clinton’s “soccer moms”. They are trying to close the deal on the Fluke circus. Only problem is, they were exposed themselves in the process.

The media party can’t win unless Obama can get a portion of the white vote.


30 posted on 03/11/2012 4:53:18 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

NYT drives two home with a double to center field for the team.


31 posted on 03/11/2012 4:54:21 AM PDT by listenhillary (Look your representatives in the eye and ask if they intend to pay off the debt. They will look away)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Lord Monckton’s presentation was riviting. It is a joy to read the words of a man who uses reason in debate.


32 posted on 03/11/2012 5:15:58 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They are falling for spin because they are stupid. I’d rather live in “Literal-ville” as Rush calls it. As if all of us are calling for a ban on contraceptives.


33 posted on 03/11/2012 5:17:13 AM PDT by toddausauras (FUBO x 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000)
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To: listenhillary

Every family has a few of these morons. I have a sister-in-law who retired in her early 50’s from “teaching”. She always is well-intended, but a loon, nonetheless. She (and her liberal idiot husband) are some of the most brain-addled humans in existance. When you attempt to bring facts or realityn into a discussion, they attack or become offended. That I rarely see them is a blessing. Like I need these pod-people in my life. Oh, did I mention...they LOVE nobama.


34 posted on 03/11/2012 5:21:37 AM PDT by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Texas Fossil
This is not about "birth control" it is about Obozo's direct assault on Religious Freedom granted by God and written in the U.S. Constitution in the 1st Amendment by the founders.

Exactly. The NYT is just carrying the water for 0. These 'stories' require a willing suspension of belief! And the whole tortured meme that it is the GOP that started this 'fight' is simply laughable. The GOP candidates have merely responded, in constitutional fashion, to the invasion of liberty and imposition of 'state religion' in the form of Commisar Sebelius and her pronouncements of the sordid behavior that religious institutions MUST cover in their health plans. Hey, 'centrist women of NY' (LOL), listen to your Cardinal Timothy Dolan, who says it well .....

We have made it clear in no uncertain terms to the government that we are not at peace with its invasive attempt to curtail the religious freedom we cherish as Catholics and Americans. We did not ask for this fight, but we will not run from it.

35 posted on 03/11/2012 5:29:00 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Pinch is carrying water for The Messiah and the Democrat party as always.

NYT would put a headline that the GOP causes leprosy if they could get away with it.

36 posted on 03/11/2012 5:30:30 AM PDT by Stepan12
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To: EBH

...”If you want to carry contraceptive coverage...that’s your business, but forcing me to carry coverage I believe that is inherently evil is interjecting your lifestyle into my life and my eternal life”...

YES! To take a look at the potential of a government intervention which would take away our right to religious freedom regarding contraception and forcing all tax payers to pay for it even for those who do not want is to suspect it will be taken to the next step before long. What would that be? Look at China. The government could really get into your uterus to live and to determine truly how you use it. I can see potentially forced abortions coming out of something like this. And, when the thought first hit me, I repressed it until I learned that Anita Dunn, the Obama operative, who left the administration after she expressed her admiration for Mao Zedong, had interjected herself into the Fluke situation. They look like communists to me. Wake up America.


37 posted on 03/11/2012 5:31:10 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: KingNo155

...”Why would a 57 year old woman need birth control? Most women are past the age of fertility by then”...

Perhaps she never needed it. Has she been married?


38 posted on 03/11/2012 5:33:07 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: hal ogen

...”I have a sister-in-law who retired in her early 50’s from “teaching”. She always is well-intended, but a loon, nonetheless. She (and her liberal idiot husband) are some of the most brain-addled humans in existance. When you attempt to bring facts or realityn into a discussion, they attack or become offended. That I rarely see them is a blessing. Like I need these pod-people in my life. Oh, did I mention...they LOVE nobama”...

Unfortunately, back in the 60s, if you weren’t very smart, you most likely could get a teaching degree..I know a number of C and D students who did. We should have been looking at this a long time ago.


39 posted on 03/11/2012 5:37:44 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: sport
I came out of work on Friday and came close to cutting off a guy in a big pick-up. I got on the highway, went two exits and went into a grocery store parking lot. The guy followed me all the way.

I parked and he pulled around to stop right in front of me. I thought, "Oh, oh! I hope he's not mad at me for driving the way I did or, I hope he's some dimwit Obama supporter that wants to go at me about the stickers."

He asked me where I got the stickers. I said, "Do you agree with them?"

He said, "Heck yeah! Where can I get them?"

I told him where I found them at ImpeachObamaStore.us. We talked for a minute and he went on his way.

40 posted on 03/11/2012 5:38:11 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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