Skip to comments.Centrist Women Tell of Disenchantment With G.O.P.
Posted on 03/11/2012 3:39:18 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
...somewhere between the baby name game and the gifts, what had been light conversation took a sharp turn toward the personal and political specifically, the battle over access to birth control and other womens health issues that have sprung to life on the Republican campaign trail in recent weeks.
We all agreed that this seemed like a throwback to 40 years ago, said Ms. Russell, 57, a retired teacher from Iowa City who describes herself as an evangelical Christian and old school Republican of the moderate mold.
Until the baby shower, just two weeks ago, she had favored Mitt Romney for president.
Not anymore. She said she might vote for President Obama now. I didnt realize I had a strong viewpoint on this until these conversations, Ms. Russell said. As for the Republican presidential candidates, she added: If theyre going to decide on womens reproductive issues, Im not going to vote for any of them. Womens reproduction is our own business.
.....Rick Santorum, a former senator from Pennsylvania who is one of Mr. Romneys rivals for the nomination, created a tempest late last month by speaking out against prenatal testing. Earlier comments about women in combat and the role of radical feminism in encouraging work outside the home also left some women ill at ease.
Everybody is so busy telling us how we should act in the bedroom, theyre letting the country fall through the cracks, said Fran Kelley, a retired public school worker in Seattle who voted for Senator John McCain over Mr. Obama in the 2008 election. Of the Republican candidates this year, she added, Theyre nothing but hatemongers trying to control everyone, saying, Live as I live....
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
They’re right about one thing:
dumb sluts ARE the center of American politics!
And the lifeblood of NYTimes’ advertising...
Please don’t paint with too broad a brush.
This is a winning issue for the GOP - and it is about religious freedom, not contraception. We are not losing women over this; Pinch just wants you to believe we are.
That said, Newt is the ONLY GOP candidate who can win this 'contrived non-issue'. Santorum has bungled it completely, showing what an amateur he is.
This is such a fake issue. No republicans have proposed any new policies whatsoever.
I bet if you could find Mary Russell’s FaceBook page, you’d find she’s no so centrist.
At 50+, I doubt these women have much to worry about in terms of reproducing. And, if their quotes are representative of their mental processes, we can only hope they used all means necessary to prevent reproduction in the past.
It’s not that you have a “strong viewpoint” Ms. Russel, it’s just that you’re easily fooled by a slickly packaged lie. You go ahead and vote for Obama, I’m just glad someone as simple-mided and easily fooled as you aren’t in the classroom teaching our children anymore.
She is simple minded and easily fooled. She is an ardent liberal trying to convince conservative to vote for the muslim Resident.
“Centrist” women - I guess to the NYT, need that free abortion and birth control above all other “freedoms” crowd is centrist - Fluke is also a centrist to them. They need to change their name to the New York Propagandist.
I am not Catholic but am a Christian who does not intend to run from this fight either.
He assaulted the Religious Freedom of EVERY Christian, Jew and some other faiths. This MUST not be forgotten. It MUST be clearly understood.
Obozo aka Barry the Bastard is going down.
God Bless the United States of America and help us regain our place in your world.
Hahaha! On the money!
Yes. I can relate, have to deal with “teachers” as a computer tech, and add to that the disgusting sense of entitlement and I have a serious bad taste in my mouth for them.
Every 4 years we get this but never any rats who will vote for the GOP sigh
Unless I over looked it I can not tell if she been married by reading the story.
OR, they completely change the subject the discussion was about... and expect you to re-itereate what you JUST said/explained...brain dead, indeed they are.
Most people I know, family and/or acquaintences, are living their lives as conservatives— (for the most part) yet as you say, repeat whatever the lying MSM tells them, and believe it. No amount of simple explanation will tell them differently. Quite sad, and scary for the future.
Knowing personally some of the teachers I have to deal with, I have tried, believe me. They have made it very hard. There are VERY few at the school I do tech work at that aren’t spoiled, selfish, entitled morons. The few I know at the school that have their head on straight are the principal, administrator, and the maintanence man...
Nice to see a freeper who gets it rather then the “oh no, we need to be more liberal so we don’t lose such strong republican voters”
I can’t believe there are people still falling for this bs.
I don’t buy that these women are evangelicals and “old school” Repubs in the first place. But idiots like this who choose a candidate based solely on their reproductive organs make me think Neal Boortz had a point when he said women shouldn’t be allowed to vote.
Yes, same here. Also, if they're female, they're unattractive and look dumber than dirt.
‘Centrist’, As defined by whom?
You are right about former teachers. Many thought they were vastly underpaid while they taught, and now they feel cheated with underpaid retirement checks as well. In some states, raises are rare for teacher retirees. They do believe that there is a government solution to most problems. Many also resent being ineligible for Social Security in many situations.
Interesting line, but do you think these “educators” in some cases resent NOT having had abortions when they were less socially popular?
Unlike you, I actually am involved in this process and review private polls each week that show me the lay of the land. The GOP is currently hemmorraging female votes. Stay in denial if you wish. Of course the NYT is propagandizing this to attract the idiot RINO women who read that rag. But beneath that is the underlying truth that the current crop of amateurs running for the nomination, and running the party have thus far completely lost an issue they ought to have won.
Mrs. Russell...an evangelical Christian who is pro-abortion. A retired school teacher of the old mold, moderate Republican....most likely she’s just moldy.
I find it amusing (and sad) that she describes herself as an evangelical Christian but strongly believes in abortion. How many evangelical Christians are pro-abortion to the point that's their number one issue? Over the economy, national defense, and religious freedom. Mrs. Russell is a moral moron.
And so it begins. The election year liberal media campaign of disenfranchised “republican” women/minorities who “might” or will be voting for the democrat instead. And their “reasons” are always the usual liberal talking points right out of the DNC handbook. It never fails. Now let’s see them interview disenfranchised democrats who will be voting republican. I won’t hold my breath.
So the NYTs in its diligent reporting manages to find a few nitwits out of 3 million Americans. Note they are retired school teachers. Boy I was going to vote republican this election but the New York Times tells me everyone is voting Obama. I dont want to seem like I think for myself so Ill vote Democratic.
remember the PUMAs?
They didn’t get much press in ‘08.
I can’t imagine they’ve completely disappeared
I haven’t seen any articles about the women who are sick and tired of angry/bitter/anti-baby/anti-men shrill liberal women pretending they speak for all women.
“Centrist, As defined by whom?”
I wonder where this "centrist" is getting her information. WHO is trying to block anyone's "access to birth control"? I haven't heard anything about that in any of this garbage. To be an informed voter, you can't rely on 30 second soundbites from Barry's MSM propaganda machine to give you the truth. No one has said anything about controlling her "reproductive rights". This article in the Slimes is nothing but commie 'RAT propaganda. Women can have all of the "birth control" they want. The taxpayers just don't want to have to pay for it. The Planned Parent Hoods will gladly give them all of the pills and abortions they want.
would suggest that the GOP is NOT "currently hemmorraging female voters."
However, that said, I think we both agree that Rick Santorum has completely blown this issue, which we should easily win and thus Rick may be hemmorraging female voters. The answer though is not to avoid the issue, but vote Newt and WIN IT! Go Bama and Mississippi!
The only one clearly making this case to the voters is Newt.
Join the club, we've got jackets.
The rest of the Drudge headline is that Santorum would also beat Obama. Why try to deceive people?
‘If you get tired of explaining caucus states and hard vs. soft delegates’ ping ......
LOL! Thank you for helping to make my point to montag813! I agree that even Rick Santorum can beat 0bama on this issue although montag suggests that the entire GOP is hemorraging women voters over it. I disagree completely with that MSM-DNC-driven meme. AND I just copied the Headline at the link which did NOT say anything about Ricky. Deceive people?! Hardly. Eva, that was beneath you.
My last point. Since I believe it is a winning issue, IMHO we should nominate the best candidate to articulate and win the conservative case for religious freedom ... Newt Gingrich! Hands down. Big time!
Yesterday, it had in parenthesis that Santorum would also beat Obama. Late last night, I noticed that Drudge had moved the Santorum part to a separate article with the headline, Santorum also beats Obama.
Thanks, I am more than tired of it. I am convinced that Santorum voters, many of them, have no interest in truth or perspective, because they like claiming that 15 thousand folks in one state are as important as 500 thousand in another, etc.
Childish, shallow, not very smart. Gets frustrating .
Yep, it’s a fake issue, designed specifically to take out Santorum because Obama wants to run against Mitt, so that when the federal individual mandate is thrown out, Obama can call for states to enact their own individual mandate.
And people wonder why public schools suck.
They have no clue what they’re talking about. Geez.
Oh, we get them all right, but not reported because it does not fit the narrative.
I’ve read with interest your deep and searing political analysis.
Don’t give up your day job.
Most centerist women are opposed to ObamaCare and worried about universe-sized deficits year after year. They don’t support partial birth abortion. They also dislike Obama’s subtle anti-Israel foreign policy.
You got it. Utter BS. She is identified as "Ms. Russel, 57". Yep, that sure verifies she's a real person. By the way, sure is nice to be retired at 57.
Obama won’t be able to force an “individual mandate” on the states...a number of them will opt out and no Supreme Court is ever going to do it.
If the “individual mandate” is killed at the Federal level, the most heinous part of Obamacare is DOA.
The GOP does so at it's peril.
Who really believe Santorum or Romney can effectively communicate on this issue now that the left has SKILLFULLY created this meme of the GOP stealing women's control over their own reproduction?
As for politics, the TRUTH DOES NOT MATTER. If you think it does or should you are going to be very, very disappointed. There is no should in national politics. There only is.
Santorum cannot break this meme as he is seen as the Church-lady source of it. It is ALL HE WOULD EVER BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT. Every day a new quote from 1991 or 2002. One per day headlining every media outlet...and the opening question of every interview.
While Romney is not see at the center of this meme, he does not have the communication skills to deflect it.
If either of these guys is the nominee, the GOP will lose in a historic landslide and take the GOP house with it.
Great point. I noticed that too. Ms. Russell is emblematic of our governmental deficit problem - the very idea of lucrative pensions paid for government jobs is ridiculous. Doesn't happen in the private sector anymore and it will end soon in the public arena despite liberal hysterics because it is unsustainable. And these Libs still think that retiring in the mid-50s, on public funds, is not only acceptable, but a sacred entitlement.
As pointed out multiple times on the thread, a NYT 'centrist' is what Rush calls a 'seminar caller' to his program.