Posted on 03/11/2012 5:35:47 AM PDT by DCBryan1
A US soldier has killed 16 Afghan civilians, including nine children, after entering their homes in Kandahar. Sky sources said the Afghan victims also included women and elderly men.
Minister of Border and Tribal Affairs Asadullah Khalid, who is investigating the incident, said the soldier entered three homes, killing 11 people in the first one.
The Nato-led International Security Assistance Force (Isaf) coalition confirmed the incident but did not release the number of killed or injured.
Sky defence reporter Mark Stone said: "Details are still sketchy and various death tolls have emerged.
"It appears to be an isolated incident and the soldier is believed to have been a staff sergeant."
Isaf Deputy Commander Lt Gen Adrian Bradshaw said: "I wish to convey my profound regrets and dismay at the actions apparently taken by one coalition member in Kandahar province.
"I cannot explain the motivation behind such callous acts, but they were in no way part of authorised ISAF military activity."
According to the Panjwai district governor office, seven people died and up to 17 injured were injured in the rampage.
The injured have been treated for their wounds at Nato medical facilities.
Protests were held over the Koran-burning incident
The US embassy in Kabul attempted to quell expected Afghan unrest by also issuing an apology.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.sky.com ...
When Obooga is tried for treason and sentenced to life in prison, then I’ll believe the government’s version of events in this case.
I agree .
But in the same time we must wage a deliberate and steady and tough and organized cultural and civilizational war beside an economic war against the muslim world in order to help muslims
weakening the deadly strength and grip of that lunatic totalitarianism on entire societies
War , jihad, is in islamic’s genes.
All the rest , blablabla or yadayada if you prefer , on moderate islam is fairy liberal tale.
We can maybe sometimes talk to individual muslims but as a whole, as a community, we are facing an ennemy at war
War , jihad, is in islamic’s genes.
All the rest , blablabla or yadayada if you prefer , on moderate islam is fairy liberal tale.
We can maybe sometimes talk to individual muslims but as a whole, as a community, we are facing an ennemy at war
I completly disagree and think that you are utterly wrong.
If you went outside your backyard going in the big world and leazrning a little bit of history you would understand that christianism in is history INCLUDING the so-called middle-age(which i repeat is not separated from the previous and subsequent periods !) has nothing to do with the islamic so-called(fake) “morality” .
You must have a very vague understanding of what morality is.
For example Monogamy was a revolution in many societies at the times of J.Christ and women’s dignity has been clearly taught and stated and founded by the christianism.
About the christian Middle-Age you are making the average mistake of anachronism. After the end of the roman empire a new society was trying to build itself and christianism became the prominant religion among different peoples , “tribes”, with their own pagan traditions.
All the people at that time didn’t become suddenly perfect christians....To make it short , i must go, compare the Gospel and J.Christ to Koran and Muhamad . That’s the good and right comparison.
In addition the middle-age is an age of beginning of new societie, an age of birth , of hard work and building.
You didn’t understand(???) when i told that in Europe and in the byzantine empire the “middle-age” was the age of the building of universities, hospitals ,art and cathedrals and monasteries...
Don’t hide yourself behind words like “crusades”. At the beginning of the Middle-Age “christian societies” have been violently and steadily attacked by islamic heirds from all parts(from South first and East )
No.
Both cities were legitimate military targets. Carpet-bombing of the cities with traditional bombing runs to destroy production capabilities would have been entirely legitimate; we did that repeatedly in Europe and were prepared to do so as part of a ground invasion of Japan. If anything, the use of atomic rather than traditional bombs greatly reduced the loss of Japanese civilian lives.
Furthermore, the Empire of Japan was in a formal state of war against the United States and had been for years. They were the aggressor at Pearl Harbor; we didn't start that fight. The Japanese decision to attack Pearl Harbor and the American decision to attack Hiroshima and Nagasaki were made at the highest levels of the military in Japan and by the highest levels of the military and civilian chain of command in the United States; both were acts of war, not mass murder.
There is no comparison between those actions and the action of a renegade staff sergeant who went out and deliberately killed more than a dozen people without any command to do so.
We'll learn more details soon, but even if the Afghans involved would have been a legitimate military target and even if the civilians would have been collateral damage, this staff sergeant acted without orders and that in and of itself makes his actions worthy of court-martial.
True.
104 posted on Sunday, March 11, 2012 1:57:53 PM by Pinkbell: “The whole goal of this nation building is to get the locals to trust us, and things like this do not help at all. I forsee protests at least as bad, if not worse, than the Koran burnings. The Taliban has already declared they will avenge, and angry locals could get behind them. With attitudes over there, they could very well take it out on the U.S. military as a whole instead of realizing that it was one soldier gone rogue.”
As others have said, this is a public relations nightmare, both for American forces in Afghanistan and for the military in the United States.
I know the man who will soon be in charge of PAO for American forces in Afghanistan. I may send him a note expressing my condolences for his recent promotion.
Since when do the Navy SEALS have staff sergeants? I am not buying this story as currently reported.
I couldn’t have written it better and I completely concur.
And then on page A5 is a three-paragraph blurb about a bomb killing fifteen people in Pakistan who were there to send off a local anti-Taliban official.
Islamics killing islamics, as usual, gets the standard 'just another day in the middle east' treatment.
I agree, but with all the crazy Shite going on over the the last few months, a guy snapping is not that surprising.
“If true The O will use the incident to accelerate our withdrawal from Afghanistan. If untrue, The O will still use the incident to accelerate our withdrawal from Afghanistan.”
Gosh, that would be terrible. It’s been such a worthwhile and productive ten years we’ve spent there. I was looking forward to another ten.
Bingo.
Exactly.
My local radio station reported that 16 women and children were killed. I find this hard to believe that no men were killed. Sounds made up.
FIFY
We should give our solider a medal. I don’t trust the media and I certainly don’t know what the real story is. We should get the hell out of that country let them rot.
#116 Great reminders....thank you! I have been so upset over the ‘murders’ of American soldiers, gangster style, had not realized this had happened.....until we know the facts, I can’t comment other than to wonder how a man on a “rampage” could manage to ‘burn’ houses....
D'ya think?
Consider the source: Sky "News". You may as well call that bunch the Taliban Propaganda Ministry, and the story reads for all the world like it came out of a cave as well.
Whenever the Taliban gets casualties, they immediately start screaming about dead women, children and massacred wedding parties. Whenever they lose twenty gunmen, they claim 2000 of our troops dead, wounded, captured or all of the above.
JMHO, the Taliban got such good play out of that Burning Koran press release, they tossed this blivet out just to see who would bite.
Made up? If there's any prosecution involved out of this little ploy, it should be reserved for whatever self-described "professional" journalist(s) commits the gratuitous fraud involved in repeating the crap....even in the fevered dreams about finally managing to fabricate that My Lai staged in Afghanistan story.
I think so. I think that was another inhumane choice against life made by a democrat.
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