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Wild boars with razor-sharp tusks invade upstate New York
New York Times via MSNBC ^ | 3-12-12 | LISA W. FODERARO

Posted on 03/12/2012 4:51:11 PM PDT by dynachrome

PERU, N.Y. — They roam by night, picking cornstalks clean, making off with apple crops. They have almost no natural predators, but they have razor-sharp tusks and a seemingly bottomless appetite for plants and animals. Their population can triple in one year.

They are feral pigs, and while they have long plagued parts of the Southern and Western United States, now they have become a problem in the peaceful Champlain Valley of New York, an agricultural heartland on the edge of the Adirondacks.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: boars; chupacabra; newyork; wildboar; wildboars
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51 posted on 03/12/2012 6:41:08 PM PDT by SJackson (The easiest way to find something lost around the house is to buy a replacement)
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To: Dubh_Ghlase

Hey - you’re from Saranac!

The folks up in Peru are tough. Not sure about the apple growers but everybody else is. How else would they survive up there.

Problem will be solved shortly by the locals.


52 posted on 03/12/2012 6:46:07 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: cincinnati65

So, I guess Hillary’s back in town, eh?
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Hmm, took 48 posts to make this connection.

I was going to say that the Clintons weren’t the only pigs that Arkansas thrust upon the citizens of New York....
Maybe they will run for the Senate??

but since you already made the reference, I won’t.


53 posted on 03/12/2012 6:50:26 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98) Let's start from scratch by voting ALL incumbents out.)
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To: crosshairs

OK : )


54 posted on 03/12/2012 7:00:28 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: MrBambaLaMamba

Wooooo, pigs, soooo, Razorbacks, Go Hogs! lol!


55 posted on 03/12/2012 7:04:05 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: SaraJohnson

Y U M


56 posted on 03/12/2012 7:05:30 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: waterhill

” You know nothing of wild pig. I have been eating on them a long time, dude. Please stop with the misinformation, you make yourself look foolish.”

I stand corrected....chastised.....maybe embalmed : )


57 posted on 03/12/2012 7:13:16 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: mamelukesabre

coyote vs boar:

check this write up from a hunt we did a year or so back:

Across the canyon bottom, and going up to the top of a big hill beyond, is a huge slope, maybe 1000 yards of open uphill ground to a patch of deep brush cover at the top. A herd of big sows and piglets has broken from the canyon bottom and is going up hill, has gotten 200 yards from the top, in single file. Last in line is huge black and white sow, with a bunch of piglets, one piglet trailing. From no-where, a big coyote rushes the piglet and grabs it.

The sow spins and charges back down the trail, slamming the coyote, and knocking it back, the piglet gets away. The sow moves back up the trail, with the piglet taking cover between her legs. The coyote hangs back. The sow gets another 10 yards up the trail before the coyote attacks again. Same result, the sow fights him off, then gets a little farther up the trail. It seems obvious to both the sow and the coyote that the battle will turn on whether the sow can get the piglet to deep cover. She has around 150 yards to go. It’s also clear that the coyote is overmatched. The sow is really fast, and very aggressive. Coyote attacks another couple times, but the sow fights him off. Sow gains another 30 yards to the brush.

Now a second coyote shows up, smaller than the first coyote. It seems the first coyote must be the alpha dog. The coyotes attack together, but the smaller coyote, whether being younger or less experienced, misjudges the sow. He hangs in too long, and she rolls him, catches him on the ground on his back, bites down and is stomping him. But in charging the coyote, the sow has moved off the piglet, the piglet is exposed, and the alpha dog makes a run at grabbing it, the piglet wrestles a little, keeping the coyote from getting a good hold. The sow sees this, pulls off coyote two and charges the alpha, knocking him back. She gains another 10 yards, backing up the trail with the piglet under her. She is still too strong, too determined. If she can stay tight on the piglet, she can make it up the trail.

Now I think about what I should do. I am admiring the sow. She is putting up an incredible battle, against stacked odds. Can I get over there and shoot the coyotes? I look at the ground to cover, I want to shoot those coyotes so bad, but it’s just too far. Over 1000 yards. A lot of it uphill over two gullies. Looks like I am just a spectator today.

The sow continues to back up the trail, battling every step, the two coyotes attacking every 20 seconds. The smaller coyote has learned his lesson and hangs back enough so he doesn’t get caught again.

Now a third coyote shows up, about the same size as coyote two. For a bit all three hang back. And then the alpha dog does something really smart. Up to now he has led the attacks, but this time he hangs back. The two smaller dogs rush the sow, she fights them off, and like lightning alpha rushes in, sweeps up piglet in one bite, and takes a dead run down the trail. The sow takes a few steps, stops and moves slowly up the hill to the other hogs at the top. Its over.


58 posted on 03/12/2012 7:29:31 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: JerseyanExile

“They’ve tried that in some southern states, as well as no bag-limits for hunters. It still hasn’t been enough.”

One has to kill some 60% of the feral hogs just to keep the numbers from increasing.

Google “Aporkalypse Now”.

http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/09/01/090111-news-helicopter-hogs-1-10/


59 posted on 03/12/2012 7:34:40 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: waterhill

We don’t have them where we live it is too dry here and they couldn’t survive. We have peccaries and rabbits but mother nature really did a job on them last year with no rain for 11 months and then extremely cold weather and it will take a while for their populations to grow again.


60 posted on 03/12/2012 8:44:02 PM PDT by tiki
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To: mamelukesabre

“no coydog that ever lived could take a wild boar.”

Probably true, but a couple of coyotes can certainly harrass and fake out a sow enough to steal small piglets and cut down on their reproduction rate...

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I understand that “coydogs” are hydrid coyote/dog offspring and can be unusually large and fierce enough to endanger humans. Those could be a real threat to feral hogs.

JC


61 posted on 03/12/2012 10:54:33 PM PDT by cracker45
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To: pallis

That’s in New York City. Upstate New York is a different story. Think West VA. or Alabama.


62 posted on 03/12/2012 11:29:41 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: dynachrome

I can not tell a lie,
A few years back I captured a couple of wild Florida pigs and took them to upstate N.Y. and set the buggers loose.
Figured I’d pay N.Y. back for all the pigs they send here for spring break.


63 posted on 03/13/2012 3:51:04 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: Joe Boucher

Loose Lips....

Nice tag, btw...


64 posted on 03/13/2012 7:55:34 AM PDT by waterhill (I Shall Remain. FUBO)
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To: Reily
Our F & G dept. has finally admitted that we have cougars here....Probably migrated down from states north of us...

We now have a hunting season on black bears...and they will more than likely be up where I am...within a few years too.

65 posted on 03/13/2012 10:12:22 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Why do we eat Soylindra Green?)
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To: jmacusa

“That’s in New York City. Upstate New York is a different story. Think West VA. or Alabama.”

Yeah, I thought that even as I wrote my little quip, but was wondering if the wild boars know that.

If the state doesn’t get ridiculous about seasons and tags, it should be fun hunting for all.


66 posted on 03/13/2012 10:28:54 AM PDT by pallis
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To: dynachrome

I know this thread is quite old but I wanted to save a whole new vanity. I’m thinking of going wild boar hunting here in Florida. Would be my first hunt. I’m wondering if a Savage Axis 30-06 with Winchester SuperX 150gr Power-Point would be a good combination.


67 posted on 11/13/2012 5:12:47 PM PST by paul544
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To: dynachrome
With what peculiar city-people language is this writer wrestling, lol? Making off with apple crops? No natural predators but razor sharp tusks?

Oh, my. Sounds dangerous. Maybe the fencing club can do a humane capture and release, and put rubber fencing tips on those things. En Garde! You'll never take Gotham, you ... you porcine interlopers!

68 posted on 11/13/2012 5:32:36 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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