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Red meat is blamed for one in 10 early deaths (PANIC !!!!)
telegraph uk ^ | 3/12/2012 | By Rebecca Smith

Posted on 03/13/2012 3:44:16 AM PDT by tobyhill

Small quantities of processed meat such as bacon, sausages or salami can increase the likelihood of dying by a fifth, researchers from Harvard School of Medicine found. Eating steak increases the risk of dying by 12%.

The study found that cutting the amount of red meat in peoples’ diets to 1.5 ounces (42 grams) a day, equivalent to one large steak a week, could prevent almost one in 10 early deaths in men and one in 13 in women.

The scientists said that the government’s current advice that people should eat no more than 2.5 ounces (70 grams) a day, around around the level the average Briton already consumes, was “generous”.

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1 posted on 03/13/2012 3:44:28 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

10 percent of the population, if they were vegetarian, are immortal?


2 posted on 03/13/2012 3:49:23 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: tobyhill
This report comes from a san fruitcisco organization with ties into gore and the report says that not eating red meat will save planet Earth... this is an Environazi propaganda piece. Search for last night's thread with links to the truth about this communist report.

LLS

3 posted on 03/13/2012 3:50:23 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: tobyhill

Sounds like a good night to have steak.


4 posted on 03/13/2012 3:53:07 AM PDT by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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To: tobyhill

This is a real Egg McNothing of a story.


5 posted on 03/13/2012 3:54:22 AM PDT by equaviator
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To: tobyhill
How do we know it is the meats and not the potatoes who are killing us?
One eats both at the same time—where is the forensic evidence that proves which bullet, plant or animal, causes the fatal wound?

I smell the rotting cabbage stench of PETA influence in this—their veggie friends are the real murderers—who has ever avoided death after eating vegetables—these evil Burgerphobes are covering for their botanical assassins.

6 posted on 03/13/2012 3:56:40 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Better add another wing to The White House cause the Santorum clan is coming.")
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To: tobyhill

Not eating increases the chance of death by 100%. OMG! These swollen-foreheaded elites are insufferable.


7 posted on 03/13/2012 3:59:06 AM PDT by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: tobyhill

Stick with this and your odds of livng go way up.

http://www.openrangecattle.com/philosophy.htm


8 posted on 03/13/2012 4:01:06 AM PDT by wolfcreek (‘closed eye’ mentality is the reason for our current reality)
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To: LibLieSlayer
It's just another overreach from the “Green” wackos.
9 posted on 03/13/2012 4:01:53 AM PDT by tobyhill (Fight Fire With Fire)
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To: LibLieSlayer

More agenda driven science!

Study was likely done using meta analysis which is not, nor can ever be, a valid statistical methodology.

The only REAL statistical studies on environmental effects on humans were showing the link between smoking and cancer and between radiation (high levels) and some cancers (leukemia).

Everything else is crap science!


10 posted on 03/13/2012 4:09:16 AM PDT by catman67
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To: tobyhill

can increase the likelihood of dying by a fifth,.....Thank Heavens I only drink cases now.


11 posted on 03/13/2012 4:11:34 AM PDT by Safetgiver (I'd rather die under a free American sky than live under a Socialist regime.)
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To: tobyhill

"...iff wazf white meef, reelry"

12 posted on 03/13/2012 4:16:42 AM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: Doogle
lol
13 posted on 03/13/2012 4:18:02 AM PDT by tobyhill (Fight Fire With Fire)
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To: tobyhill
"Small quantities of processed meat such as bacon, sausages or salami can increase the likelihood of dying by a fifth, researchers from Harvard School of Medicine found. Eating steak increases the risk of dying by 12%."

The researchers need to broaden and lengthen their study.

I think they'll find that 100% of people who drink tap water at some time during their lives will die.

"Mandrake, have you never wondered why I drink only distilled water, or rainwater, and only pure-grain alcohol?

14 posted on 03/13/2012 4:18:30 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: catman67
Study was likely done using meta analysis which is not, nor can ever be, a valid statistical methodology.

Tell that to Frank Schmidt and John Hunter, the fathers of meta-analysis. In those days it was called validity generalization. They used thousands of studies without regard to results, only with regard to scientific rigor. Where VG or MA fails is when you cherry pick studies, which is my guess with this group. BTW, Schmidt and Hunter came up with results that academics and leftists (sorry for the redundancy) despised, but could not refute. Too bad, they were already tenured and well established in their fields.

15 posted on 03/13/2012 4:19:46 AM PDT by neocon1984
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To: tobyhill

I’ll be grilling a ribeye for dinner tonite.


16 posted on 03/13/2012 4:31:30 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: tobyhill

if one in ten deaths are caused by meat, then doesn’t that mean that 9 out of 10 deaths are caused by green food? shouldn’t we be banning them nasty, murderous vegetables???


17 posted on 03/13/2012 4:31:30 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: tobyhill
The food Nazi's are at it again. What else will we be forced to do to retain our nationalized health insurance?


18 posted on 03/13/2012 4:32:48 AM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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To: tobyhill

These vegetarian Harvard fools are deaf to the death screams of peas as they’re eaten.

BTW, peas have a higher IQ than half the 2011 graduating class at Harvard.


19 posted on 03/13/2012 4:32:55 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: RockinRight

...and wash it down with a burger and a beer !


20 posted on 03/13/2012 4:33:00 AM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA: Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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To: tobyhill

George Carlin once said:
“Scientist have determined that saliva can be fatal- when swallowed in small quantities over a long period of time”


21 posted on 03/13/2012 4:38:16 AM PDT by BO Stinkss
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To: tobyhill

More government regulations on the way.


22 posted on 03/13/2012 4:38:28 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: tobyhill

I call Bullsh!t.
THis is just propaganda from vegans.


23 posted on 03/13/2012 4:39:41 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: tobyhill

Yep.

LLS


24 posted on 03/13/2012 4:42:11 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: tobyhill

It’s not “prevent”. It’s “postpone”.


25 posted on 03/13/2012 4:42:14 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: tobyhill
Eating steak increases the risk of dying by 12%.

So worth it.

26 posted on 03/13/2012 4:43:27 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: catman67

You are correct!

LLS


27 posted on 03/13/2012 4:52:29 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: tobyhill

This was picked up by and passed along by the PSN Pseudo Science Network div of AP and made it to every radio set in the US. As usual no one thought to question it.

Even Rush mentioned it but his table was too full of more important stuff.


28 posted on 03/13/2012 4:54:42 AM PDT by mosesdapoet ("The best way to punish a country is let professors run it. Fredrick the Great p/p)
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To: tobyhill
Eating steak increases the risk of dying by 12%.

So I guess that raises your chances of dying to 112% since before this study your chances of dying were only 100%

29 posted on 03/13/2012 4:55:47 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Happy Rain

It is the potatoes. I’m proof of their ability to do harm.

Quit eating potatoes and bread and the diabetic condition normalizes


30 posted on 03/13/2012 4:59:00 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: Happy Rain
How do we know it is the meats and not the potatoes who are killing us?

^this

Rush covered a study last Thursday done by cardiologists that debunks decades of "common thought" concerning the consumption of meat and the correlation to cholesterol levels. Turns out that the Omega 6 fatty acids that we consume in this boxed and bagged low fat/no fat garbage that we've been peddled since the 80s is actually causing inflammation in our blood vessels which, in turn, causes cholesterol to build up in strange places.

My weight's fluctuated my entire life from an all-time high of nearly 400 lb. in college to an adult low of 230 lb., but throughout the entire span of my life, my cholesterol has been extraordinarily low. I eat a LOT of meat and very few carbohydrates. Bacon, eggs, chicken with the skin, full fat salad dressings, etc. These are all foods that would've been available to hunter/gatherer ancestors and are not processed in any real way outside of butchering.

So why avoid meat? We hear all the time of seemingly healthy men and women dropping dead of a clot or heart disease while 250 lb. men dodder along into their 60s and 70s with little more than some knee and lower back pains. I'm not saying that eating red meat daily is a good thing, everything in moderation, after all, but if the consumption of plant esters or boxes of rice cakes means I'm going to be thin for the rest of my life, I'd rather be a cigar-smoking red meat eater until I'm 70.

31 posted on 03/13/2012 5:01:03 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: FES0844

1 Timothy 4

1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

2Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

3Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.


32 posted on 03/13/2012 5:19:46 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: Sans-Culotte
I’ll be grilling a ribeye for dinner tonite.

Yum!The article confused two terms - processed meat and red meat. There is nothing wrong with red meat. It is the processing that causes the problems.

I try to avoid all foods that come with a list of ingredients.

33 posted on 03/13/2012 5:37:16 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Sooth2222

“Small quantities of processed meat such as bacon, sausages or salami can increase the likelihood of dying by a fifth, researchers from Harvard School of Medicine found. Eating steak increases the risk of dying by 12%.”

I find this absolutely hysterical! Isn’t the risk of dying still at 100%??? An this is from Harvard? It doesn’t even take a critical thinker to figue this one out.


34 posted on 03/13/2012 5:39:53 AM PDT by myrabach
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To: tobyhill

Let’s see... Davy Jones, Monkee, dead at 66, vegetarian. I know meat eaters MUCH older than that (namely, my dad),and as healthy as a horse!


35 posted on 03/13/2012 5:41:28 AM PDT by Thorliveshere
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To: tobyhill
One in ten? I like my chances. And my . lol!
36 posted on 03/13/2012 5:44:41 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: bolobaby

A vegetarian society is much easier to control by a tyrant.


37 posted on 03/13/2012 5:48:41 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: LibLieSlayer

My family usually raises two to three head for slaughter in the fall. We’ve been watching beef prices recently and what cost $1.40 a pound last year will cost $1.90 at auction in our area today.

Has anyone heard O’bama say “beef prices will necessarily rise .....”? Ouch!


38 posted on 03/13/2012 5:49:44 AM PDT by Conservateacher
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To: tobyhill

Unfortunately, with the current price of beef, I’m probably already meeting the targets.


39 posted on 03/13/2012 5:49:56 AM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: tobyhill

So Alar is ok now?

/obscure 20th century reference


40 posted on 03/13/2012 5:52:02 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: RockinRight
Sounds like a good night to have steak.

I have a three pound London Broil that is going on the grill tonight for dinner. Add a couple of pounds of sauteed Portabella mushrooms some green beans and baked potatoes, and eat until you take a nap.

41 posted on 03/13/2012 5:52:54 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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What a way to go:

Grilled prime beef and broiled lobster tail dinner.

WHAT IS “PRIME” BEEF? WHY IS IT SO EXPENSIVE? Prime beef is aged from 21 to 35 days, which adds 1000% more flavor to the steak. There is a U.S.D.A. Inspector present at the beef plant that hand selects the prime beef from the rest. There are 8 quality grades of beef. U.S. Prime is the highest in the scale. The grade designation assigned to a side of beef is determined by evaluation of sex characteristics, maturity, the quality of lean muscle and the degree of marbeling present in the steak. Prime beef is less than 2% of all the cattle processed in the United States. This specific type of cattle is fed a balanced ration of grain, specifically corn. Corn is what gives the meat marbeling, tenderness, and taste. (Lion's Den Steakhouse, Pompano Beach, Fla).

42 posted on 03/13/2012 5:53:23 AM PDT by Liz
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To: tobyhill

Excessive government regulation is the cause of one in three deaths.


43 posted on 03/13/2012 5:53:23 AM PDT by Joe the Pimpernel (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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No bacon? That's a laugh.

Chicken Fried Bacon / Sausage Gravy Dip
Another reason why America will ALWAYS be on top. The beautiful, greasy details:

Chicken fried bacon consists of bacon strips dredged in batter and deep fried, like chicken fried steak. It is an American dish that was introduced in the early 1990s. Frank Sodolak of Sodolak’s Original Country Inn in Snook, Texas, is credited as having invented it. It is usually served as an appetizer with a white “country” or cream gravy for dipping and sauce….

In recent years, the dish has made its way across America and it is served in Chicago at the Risque Cafe in Lake View.…and Jake’s Dixie Roadhouse, Waltham, Massachusetts......…lovers of fried bacon speak passionately about its qualities: “The moment when the crackle of the crust gives way to the fatty, salty taste of the pork is truly transcendent.” …Jane Hurley, senior nutritionist at the Center for Science in the Public Interest in Washington, D.C., stated she’s “never heard of anything worse.”

44 posted on 03/13/2012 5:56:39 AM PDT by Liz
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To: tobyhill

It’s grains that are extremely bad for us. I’m currently reading The Paleo Solution, by Robb Wolf. According to the author, the havoc brought about by grains, even whole grains, is the cause of many autoimmune diseases and the epidemic of diabetes and heart disease. It seems that Atkins was right all along, carbohydrates, and not protein and fat should be limited in the diet. The carbs you do eat should come from green leafy vegetables and not bread, pasta, sugar.


45 posted on 03/13/2012 5:57:11 AM PDT by hdbc (1/20/13 End of an Error.)
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To: tobyhill

Red meat with every meal!!!!

If it doesn’t bleed after it’s cooked it ain’t fit to eat!


46 posted on 03/13/2012 5:57:14 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: tobyhill

Whenever a study like this (an observational rather than a prospective controlled trial) finds beneficial news for a vitamin or mineral, the MSM almost always says something like “...but this has not been proven in the gold standard of a double blind clinical trial.” However, they NEVER say this when something bad is found for something good, like steak.


47 posted on 03/13/2012 6:11:38 AM PDT by Pharmboy (She turned me into a Newt...)
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To: tobyhill

Wow, this is getting me really excited for a fat, juicy cheeseburger for lunch today - I’ll have french fries to counter the effect of the red meat though!!!! I just wish people would leave these studies alone - just like political pols. I’m sick and tired of both because you can get a study or a pol to say ANYTHING you want. People with agenda’s cannot be trusted.


48 posted on 03/13/2012 6:15:27 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: wolfcreek

I really want to try some grass-fed beef, but dang it’s expensive!


49 posted on 03/13/2012 6:15:52 AM PDT by txmissy
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To: hdbc

I’ve been eating 95% paleo since the beginning of February, after a blood sugar scare. I’ve gone from 192lbs to 173 (still losing, too), I’ve stopped nodding off every time I sit down for more than five minutes, and my patience has drastically improved. My blood pressure, which was always around 98/65, has remained 98/65, only I no longer faint when I stand up too quickly. Colour me well pleased....


50 posted on 03/13/2012 6:18:29 AM PDT by Eepsy
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