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Judge calls out T-shirt wearers during animal abuse hearing
Johnson City Press ^ | 3/12/12 | Becky Campbell

Posted on 03/13/2012 10:42:35 AM PDT by SmithL

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Good for the judge!
From the comments at the link, it's obvious that some people have no understanding of courtroom decorum, or the authority of the judge within his courtroom.
1 posted on 03/13/2012 10:42:39 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

He can’t do enough to this waste of human breath to punish him for what he did to that dog.


2 posted on 03/13/2012 10:44:54 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks (Heinlein))
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To: SmithL

Thank-you your honor! :)=^..^=


3 posted on 03/13/2012 10:45:04 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: SmithL

I say an eye for an eye in this dirtbag’s case


4 posted on 03/13/2012 10:45:10 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'll cling to my religion and guns till they're pried from my cold dead fingers!)
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To: SmithL

This guy Harrel needs to be put away.

As for the judge, good for him. I don’t know about other places, but you show up to a court in Houston in a T-shirt or shorts, your going to wind up in jail. Judges here don’t tolerate disrespect.


5 posted on 03/13/2012 10:45:31 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: SmithL

Judge should focus on his job, not what the women are doing. What a moron.


6 posted on 03/13/2012 10:45:38 AM PDT by Fawn (Anyone but OBOZO!!!!)
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To: Biggirl

Thank you for what?


7 posted on 03/13/2012 10:47:59 AM PDT by Fawn (Anyone but OBOZO!!!!)
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To: SmithL

If this is a bench trial such objections would seem superfluous, but you don’t want spectators in the court room politicking a jury with slogans.

What a sick nut. It is seldom “just a dog” that is in danger of being hurt by such sick nuts. Given that even if jailed he will be out on the street again with nothing but a few more grudges in a few years, getting him into a mental hospital might be a better idea.


8 posted on 03/13/2012 10:50:03 AM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: Fawn

I thought he threw the book at the animal abuser. I read it again. GOOD GRIEF I WAS WRONG!!!!


9 posted on 03/13/2012 10:50:07 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Fawn

He was focusing on his job. The defendant should not be able to argue that a conviction was based upon any information not entered into evidence. Allowing the T-shirts would have given the perp a basis for appeal which the judge has now denied him.


10 posted on 03/13/2012 10:50:15 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: SmithL

Did I miss where government employees became royalty instead of public servants?


11 posted on 03/13/2012 10:50:20 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Sudetenland

This may well be a good judge. I dunno. But considering the total lack of respect his profession deserves thanks to the liberal wing running wild and abusing authority ( and the decent judges standing silent while it happens) they do not legally have, I’m not shocked people think he NEEDS a reminder.


12 posted on 03/13/2012 10:51:03 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Fawn

So sorry I had not read the article in full and overlooked the news report about the horrible details of that poor dog. You would think that court judge would simply have COMMON SENSE.


13 posted on 03/13/2012 10:52:43 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: SmithL

Hope he gets put in the can with Bubba who IS a dog lover. Yorks are such sweet puppies.


14 posted on 03/13/2012 10:53:11 AM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: SmithL

If found guilty, this sub-human swine should be jailed for a long, long time. Clearly this type of behavior indicates he is a sociopath who can’t be trusted to walk free in society.

Today, a little dog. Tomorrow, your daughter.


15 posted on 03/13/2012 10:53:52 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: SmithL

I simply take what I had said back. Your honor, you fell down on your job and did not do what NEEDED to be done.


16 posted on 03/13/2012 10:54:42 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Mr. Lucky

The T-shirts don’t talk.... How did that influence the judge?


17 posted on 03/13/2012 10:55:36 AM PDT by Fawn (Anyone but OBOZO!!!!)
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To: SmithL

This dog’s horrible death should be a “red flag” warning that if the perp can harn an animal, can a human and in a special way, a child be next.


18 posted on 03/13/2012 10:58:09 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: SmithL

Attorneys are not allowed to wear ties that say guilty or not guilty (there are ties with tiny repeating words) during trials, this makes sense.


19 posted on 03/13/2012 10:59:22 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SmithL

But then - the courts are about law, not justice. I believe in the law until it interferes with justice. Those women were not yelling or otherwise disrupting the court. They just wore the T-shirts. Justice is meted out in the alley.


20 posted on 03/13/2012 11:00:18 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse)
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To: SmithL
This piece of filth needs to be treated as he treated poor little Honey. As I sat next to my own 5 pound Yorkie reading this, I wanted to puke. What kind of excrement does this?
21 posted on 03/13/2012 11:01:19 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (Barack has a memory like a steel trap; it's a gift ~ Michelle Obama)
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To: bolobaby

The judge already said the perp was in counselling. It sounds to me like he’s already making excuses for the poor fellow. It sounds to me like the Judge probably abuses animals himself.


22 posted on 03/13/2012 11:02:09 AM PDT by Fawn (Anyone but OBOZO!!!!)
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To: liberalh8ter

Could be somebody far gone on meth, but another possibility is “Excrement” that had been treated as such when little.


23 posted on 03/13/2012 11:02:56 AM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: Fawn

Or it could be a public servant with a cool head and reason.


24 posted on 03/13/2012 11:04:33 AM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: Fawn
Jurors are presumed to be able to read.
25 posted on 03/13/2012 11:05:08 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Fawn

it is the precident.

so spectators wearing bloody t-shirts or bloody pictures to influence a jury would be equally wrong.

it is still communication.


26 posted on 03/13/2012 11:08:53 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Mr. Lucky

So? THey are also required to listen to the case and make up their own minds.


27 posted on 03/13/2012 11:09:23 AM PDT by Fawn (Anyone but OBOZO!!!!)
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To: Fawn

You probably never have any experience in a court room...its the judges territory, he sets any rules he wants. Proper decorum and dress is under his orders...He is the judge and absolute under the law it is his rules that must be obeyed or you go to jail for contempt of court...


28 posted on 03/13/2012 11:09:28 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: goat granny
I don't think YOU understand. This is not an issue of 'proper decorum and dress'. The judge was 'offended' because he didn't want the people to tell HIM what to think or do. The Judge's ego felt offended. He needs to grow up and get on with his job.

“That offends me,” Cupp said. “You don’t need to tell me” to get justice. “That’s what this courtroom is for,” he said.

29 posted on 03/13/2012 11:17:02 AM PDT by Fawn (Anyone but OBOZO!!!!)
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To: longtermmemmory

Was there a jury in that courtroom in this specific situation? I think not. THe judge’s ego was ‘offended’...because he’s a baby.


30 posted on 03/13/2012 11:18:21 AM PDT by Fawn (Anyone but OBOZO!!!!)
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To: Mr. Lucky

Wait. Don’t think there are jurors at a hearing.


31 posted on 03/13/2012 11:20:19 AM PDT by Fawn (Anyone but OBOZO!!!!)
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To: Fawn

Well, then. Just hang the son of a bich.


32 posted on 03/13/2012 11:21:47 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: All; Fawn
Please don't feed the Fawn, she's a well-known FR animal rights nutjob.

If you don't believe me, all you have to do is look at her replies on this thread and how she will respond to this post.

33 posted on 03/13/2012 11:23:29 AM PDT by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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To: Fawn

I will repeat what you do not understand...the judge is in charge of all things that go on in his court. Period...he also has the power to toss a lawyer in jail for comptempt of court if they refuse his orders...grow up. People have been jailed for contempt and they stay in jail until they do as the judge says....reporters have spent months in jail for refusing to give a source in a trial. Read and learn, its not a matter of what you personally think should be done, but what the judge orders to be done....if you don’t like it tough luck to you. Shirts with saying on them can influence a jury, big no no. JUdge doesn’t need a bunch of nit wits trying to influence him. That is what sayings on T shirts do or they wouldn’t be wearing them. Answer me if you choose, but I will not be answering you, ignorance cannot be debated...


34 posted on 03/13/2012 11:32:32 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: SmithL

35 posted on 03/13/2012 11:35:16 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: goat granny

Poor you...you still don’t get it. The judge was offended ONLY because he thought the people were trying to tell him what he should do. A more intelligent Judge would simply ignore them.


36 posted on 03/13/2012 11:36:12 AM PDT by Fawn (Anyone but OBOZO!!!!)
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I must of won some pretty good arguments with you? What you write here is pure slander and lies. I LOATHE PETA And HSUS! Idiot.


37 posted on 03/13/2012 11:37:23 AM PDT by Fawn (Anyone but OBOZO!!!!)
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To: goat granny

The judge is a power hungry a$$hole.


38 posted on 03/13/2012 12:06:04 PM PDT by Moleman
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To: Mr. Lucky
He was focusing on his job. The defendant should not be able to argue that a conviction was based upon any information not entered into evidence. Allowing the T-shirts would have given the perp a basis for appeal which the judge has now denied him.

Of all the comments on this thread, yours was the best.

39 posted on 03/13/2012 12:09:57 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I'm a slut.)
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To: Fawn

Sorry but they were protesting in his court room and that is wrong. They should have let him provide the justice and not been there making a display of themselves for political points.

They showed disrespect to the court and those in attendance.

I understand that they were protesting a monster, but inside the court room or the court house is not the place for such things. The judge was right since they were disrespecting the setting.


40 posted on 03/13/2012 12:17:25 PM PDT by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: Fawn

If you remember the Charlie Manson case he stood up during the case and showed the jury a news paper that said “Nixon says Manson guilty”. They had to question each juror to see if this influenced them in any way or the case could have been thrown out.

The courtroom is no place for signs or protests. Take that out to the lawn of the courthouse.


41 posted on 03/13/2012 12:22:13 PM PDT by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: Fawn

When did you turn 26?


42 posted on 03/13/2012 12:22:51 PM PDT by beefree
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43 posted on 03/13/2012 1:09:46 PM PDT by Fawn (Anyone but OBOZO!!!!)
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To: Fawn

oops, meant that for someone else...cute bunny


44 posted on 03/13/2012 1:21:00 PM PDT by beefree
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To: Fawn
Poor you...you still don’t get it. The judge was offended ONLY because he thought the people were trying to tell him what he should do. A more intelligent Judge would simply ignore them.

The public audience is not, and should not be, a participant in the trial. They should absolutely be prevented from having signs, t-shirts, or anything that lobbies for one side or the other. The judge was exactly right that it is the job of the court, not the gallery.

45 posted on 03/13/2012 1:36:05 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Fawn
A courtroom is basically a judge's office......

Most court rooms have dress codes. Making a spectacle of yourself....won't go over well, in most court rooms.

You of course have your agenda....which is well known here on FR.

I suspect if I wore a "I LOVE OBAMA" t-shirt...at Obama's perjury trial...you wouldn't have a problem with it.

46 posted on 03/13/2012 1:55:19 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Why do we eat Soylindra Green?)
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To: allmendream
Classic...

: )

47 posted on 03/13/2012 2:00:05 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Why do we eat Soylindra Green?)
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To: Fawn

Actually, the judge was correct.
AND he wanted justice for the puppy.

Had this dude been found guilty then his lawyer said that there was influence on the jury, the slime may have walked free.

This judge may not have stated it correctly but he was right to disallow the t-shirts.


48 posted on 03/13/2012 2:29:23 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: Biggirl
You would think that court judge would simply have COMMON SENSE.
I think he showed extraordinary common sense. What would you have done differently?
49 posted on 03/13/2012 2:32:13 PM PDT by SmithL (If you reward certain behavior, don't be surprised when you see more of that behavior)
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To: netmilsmom
Ok..
I hope we hear about the final judgement....
50 posted on 03/13/2012 3:38:41 PM PDT by Fawn (Anyone but OBOZO!!!!)
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