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Santorum wins Alabama; Mississippi too close to call
MSNBC ^ | 3/13/12 | Michael O'Brien

Posted on 03/13/2012 7:19:12 PM PDT by LonelyCon

Updated 9:55 p.m. -- Rick Santorum was projected to win the Alabama Republican primary as he, Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich were locked in a three-way battle to win Mississippi's primary.

Mitt Romney was left looking to Mississippi to achieve a feat he hadn’t yet accomplished this cycle – win in one of the Republican Party’s conservative strongholds – as results from the twin primaries in GOP strongholds trickled in Tuesday evening.

Almost two hours after polls closed, the race in Mississippi was too close to call.

A week after Super Tuesday, the Alabama and Mississippi primaries could determine whether Romney was able to finally win in one of the GOP’s identifiably conservative corners.

Any such victory would come, in part, due to a split conservative vote between former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum. The two men have battled Romney – and each other – in a week’s worth campaigning in two states where the electorate closely mirrors some of the modern Republican Party’s core constituencies.

Santorum had also looked to win at least one of the two primaries, if not deprive Gingrich from victories in either. Santorum has publicly said he hopes to wage a one-on-one campaign against Romney, and has split the conservative vote versus the former Massachusetts governor with Gingrich in several key contests.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Alabama; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: getoutnewt; gingrich; newtgetout; newtsplittingthevote; primary; romney; santorum
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I really can't see how Newt moves forward without a win tonight. Sad.
1 posted on 03/13/2012 7:19:16 PM PDT by LonelyCon
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To: LonelyCon

Would have rather had Newt win it, but at least the pro-abortion, pro-homo marriage liberal from Mass didn’t win.


2 posted on 03/13/2012 7:20:43 PM PDT by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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To: LonelyCon

Nor do I. Newt’s PAC was running ads on our local radio station on the drive home. And out primary isn’t for another six weeks.


3 posted on 03/13/2012 7:26:24 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: LonelyCon

Matt Drudge must be stunned


4 posted on 03/13/2012 7:26:56 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: LonelyCon

IMHO, this result is telling me that the south has had all of Barry’s crap they are going to take. They aren’t in the mood for Marxists OR RINOS. Good!


5 posted on 03/13/2012 7:27:29 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (It's time for Americans to WEAN the government off of OUR money!!!)
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To: LonelyCon

Mittens must be having kittens.


6 posted on 03/13/2012 7:29:19 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

LOL


7 posted on 03/13/2012 7:30:40 PM PDT by Catsrus
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To: LonelyCon
I can't see how Santorum won in the South?

Since it's not Mitt, there is no question of gaming the system...but Santorum is simply not a varsity player yet.

8 posted on 03/13/2012 7:31:48 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Romney: "I can haz cheezy grits, Y'all?")
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To: 21twelve; Absolutely Nobama; AFPhys; afraidfortherepublic; AmericanInTokyo; ...
Santorum for President Ping List.

FReepmail “Antoninus” to be added or removed.

9 posted on 03/13/2012 7:33:01 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: LonelyCon

I cant either. But, if I were Newt and I decided to pull out, I would state that it will depend entirely what the others say about my exit, and that would determine who I would throw my support behind.

I would send a very strong signal that if any of the two front runners said one harsh word, then those that did would find that it would be a very big mistake and cost them the election, both in the primary nomination and the general election.

Sour grapes? You bet! But the childlike slimming of other candidates through Super PAC adds had better stop.


10 posted on 03/13/2012 7:33:32 PM PDT by crz
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To: LonelyCon

I would have really preferred Newt, but I think it’s over tonight unless he wins at least one state tonight.

Bummer. Just got to keep Romney out of it.

Sad thing is, I think Newt will keep going at this until July before dropping out.


11 posted on 03/13/2012 7:36:01 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: LonelyCon

God save the republic. I don’t know what is wrong with the people who vote for Little Ricky. I can understand the Romney voters. They are either moderate republicans or are buying the, only Mitt can win, story. But Santorum is a loser of the highest degree. Prior to his three nothing wins in MN, CO, MO he was a well justified after thought. Now we have 30+% of evidently brain dead conservative voting for him in every state. A far right extremely arrogant SoCon who is a moderate establishment republican on everything else. A Democratic wet dream. They are probably popping champagne bottles every time this twit wins. I hope Newt stays in just to keep Santorum from gaining anymore ground. At this point we better be praying for a brokered convention.


12 posted on 03/13/2012 7:36:12 PM PDT by redangus
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Then why are they voting for establishment “take one for the team” Ricky.


13 posted on 03/13/2012 7:37:37 PM PDT by redangus
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To: LonelyCon; All

And what’s frustrating is Santorum is a loser who ultimately can’t win elections....and this is our champion?

I just don’t get it. I like some of his positions better than Newt, but I like a lot of Newt better simply because he can campaign.

At least I thought....his campaign has been frankly terrible so far.


14 posted on 03/13/2012 7:38:49 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: LonelyCon

SO much better to have Newt or Rick take these states.

Bite it, Mitty.


15 posted on 03/13/2012 7:39:01 PM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too much.)
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To: LonelyCon

Gingrich needs to wake up and smell the coffee.
A few, very vocal people think he’s great...the rest of us have reviewed his record.
Bye-bye Mr. Brilliant.


16 posted on 03/13/2012 7:41:22 PM PDT by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: LonelyCon
Would you stop. It's proportional; Newt still gets many delegates with or without a win. They all do with as close as this is.

The "win" is bragging rights, nothing more.

It is certainly sad the establishment has fooled the electorate. Sadder still Santorum hasn't been properly vetted.

17 posted on 03/13/2012 7:42:00 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Santorum: 18-point loss, voted for Sotomayor, proposed $550M on top of $900M Amtrak budget...)
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To: RoosterRedux

Well, apparently he is.


18 posted on 03/13/2012 7:42:20 PM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too much.)
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To: LonelyCon

From Google/AP:

Results for U.S. Republican Presidential Primaries
State Gingrich Paul Romney Santorum reporting

03/13 MS 31.5% 4.4% 30.0% 33.0% 83%
03/13 AL 29.8% 5.0% 28.5% 34.6% 63%


19 posted on 03/13/2012 7:42:53 PM PDT by PghBaldy (What an exciting time to be alive.)
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To: redangus

Oh for heaven’s sake. Can’t you be happy that Myth Fakeney is LOSING?

Santorum ain’t perfect but he’s sure sight better than RINO Romney.


20 posted on 03/13/2012 7:43:11 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: LonelyCon

GOT MISSISSIPPI, TOO!!! GO RICK!!!


21 posted on 03/13/2012 7:44:47 PM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too much.)
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To: Vigilanteman; LonelyCon

Newt’s PAC has also been running commercials during Rush’s show on WABC for maybe the last couple of weeks, and NY isn’t until April.


22 posted on 03/13/2012 7:48:38 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum)
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To: redangus

Pennsylvania-phobe!

But seriously, as much as I like Newt’s legislative record moreso than Rick’s, I’m satisfied either way.

It’s the old “lesser of two evils” that has dominated politics for decades (with few exceptions q.v., Reagan).

I’m definitely not voting for Obama, and would rather not vote for Mitt. So whomsoever is left standing, that’s where my vote will reside.


23 posted on 03/13/2012 7:49:07 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: redangus

At least it wasn`t Romney!!!


24 posted on 03/13/2012 7:49:22 PM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too much.)
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To: redangus
I'm also for the convention at this point. Newt has delegates, and he has a plan, he is going to come out of this with something and that something will be good for America, thats for sure.

Nevertheless I can go with Rick if I have to.

I trust Newt to know what he doing.

25 posted on 03/13/2012 7:51:35 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: RoosterRedux

I guess everybody here in the South does not buy your view of Newt. Some of us see him with different eyes. That does not make us any less smart. We just simply do not believe in him as you do. If he is the nominee, I will vote for him. But, I WILL NOT vote for Romnie.


26 posted on 03/13/2012 7:52:39 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (God is watching America. He is judging America. He does not like what He is seeing.)
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To: LonelyCon
I really can't see how Newt moves forward without a win tonight. Sad.

Why?

Let's think about some things here.

Two very close 2nds, especially both of them involving beating the putative frontrunner, are not a bad showing at all for a guy who hithertofore had been back down to pulling low teens after Florida, and who even two weeks ago was trailing by large double digits in both of the states voting this evening.

Newt does seem to have some momentum building, and I doubt losing by 1% in MS and 4% in AL will destroy that. Newt will come away with as many, if not more, delegates than Romney, Santorum will gain some more than Newt but won't have any sort of preponderant lead over him, and both of them together will snarfle up the lion's share and keep them from going to Romney.

When Newt said he was going all the way to the convention, I believe him, because he seems to have a delegate strategy, rather than a headline strategy. At this point, it's a matter of whether Newt can outlast Santorum on the money side of things.

The next step is Lousiana. This one could turn to Newt, if his momentum keeps building in the direction it has been over the past two weeks. And I think it will because of the fact that his momentum isn't based on winning primaries (obviously), but on the fact that he finally seems to have really gotten serious about getting on message and getting active about campaigning. He knows there aren't many debates anymore to bouy him - if he's gonna do it, he's gonna have to go down the street from the Wal-Mart and talk to the people directly. This he has been doing, and they seem to be responding.

Think of it this way - Santorum actually underperformed this evening. Think about how Santorum is the absolute darling of the big politico-Evangelicals. He is supposedly "their" guy. Yet, both Alabama and Mississippi have outright majorities of self-proclaimed Evangelical Christians (both ~50-55%, IIRC). The fact that Santorum only won 35% and 33% respectively in these states suggests that around 40% of evangelical voters did not vote for him - and it's most likely that the large majority of these went to Newt, rather than Romney.

Don't despair, I doubt this race is over yet.

27 posted on 03/13/2012 7:54:13 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: redangus

There isn’t a thing wrong with those of us who voted for “Little Ricky,” as you so called him. He won elections for 20 years out of his life - so, don’t call him a loser. He lost in a huge Repbulican upheaval when the Dems took back control of the Senate.

I’m sorry so many of you are eating sour grapes over this. Newt can be a loose cannon at times. Yes, he’s brilliant, yes, he’s a great debater - at times. We never know which Newt will show up for the debates, and, he did some great things as Speaker. However, he also did some not-so-great things. Besides, as history has shown us - the older, white-haired guy usually loses in a general election. Sad, but,true.


28 posted on 03/13/2012 7:54:17 PM PDT by Catsrus
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To: Lazlo in PA

I am greatly relieved to hear about Alabama. >Phew!<


29 posted on 03/13/2012 7:55:06 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum)
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To: RoosterRedux
Since it's not Mitt, there is no question of gaming the system...but Santorum is simply not a varsity player yet.

Apparently he is. Sometimes a sixth round draft pick proves to be an all pro through brains, dedication and hard work. That's Rick Santorum.
30 posted on 03/13/2012 7:56:02 PM PDT by Antoninus (Goal #1: Defeat Romney. Goal #2: Defeat Obama. If we don't achieve both goals, 2012 is a loss.)
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To: newzjunkey
Sadder still Santorum hasn't been properly vetted.

The problem is, Santorum probably WON'T be properly vetted until after a theoretical win and nomination.

At which point, his record will be thorough exposed by the media, and he will lose to Obama in a landslide. Mississippi and Alabama may well be the only states he takes in the general. That's just how lousy of a candidate Santorum would be when facing the nation as a whole.

31 posted on 03/13/2012 7:57:41 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Lauren BaRecall

Check my last ping. We may have swept the South tonight.


32 posted on 03/13/2012 7:59:29 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: newzjunkey
The "win" is bragging rights, nothing more.

Get real. You Newt supporters have been peddling this whole "Southern Strategy" nonsense for weeks now. Newt said he needed to win these states to make the argument that he was viable. HE FAILED. Rick just picked up two states in his own "back yard". Time for you to face facts.

33 posted on 03/13/2012 8:03:35 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: ScottinVA

Great news! I didn’t know what to expect today!


34 posted on 03/13/2012 8:07:26 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum)
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To: newzjunkey

Newt is done. Don’t you see that? He really needs to give up the ghost. He has lost Tennessee, Mississippi and Alabama. His so-called southern strategy is in tatters. He has lost 22 primaries and won two, his home state and the one right next to it.

If they had a re-do in South Carolina now, Santorum would probably beat him.

Newt’s presence in the race helps Willard Romney and him alone.


35 posted on 03/13/2012 8:09:27 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: Lazlo in PA

Great speech from Newt. Concession? Don’t think so.


36 posted on 03/13/2012 8:11:27 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Obama has NEVER given a speech where he did not lie!!!)
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To: LonelyCon

What the hell is with Alabama being stuck on 79% returns for over an hour???

Hank


37 posted on 03/13/2012 8:12:59 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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To: RoosterRedux
I can't see how Santorum won in the South?

I can't see how Newt's position on illegal immigration squares up with Alabama's law against illegals.

38 posted on 03/13/2012 8:13:25 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Lazlo in PA
Yeah, here are some bragging rights: Candidates Vote % Votes Delegates Rick Santorum 35% 155,694 15 ★ Newt Gingrich 30% 131,959 9 Mitt Romney 28% 127,059 7 Ron Paul 5% 22,390 0
39 posted on 03/13/2012 8:14:19 PM PDT by Catsrus
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To: rwfromkansas

Actually, Rick spent 20 years in Washington and was elected for that many years. He lost one election during the Dem sweep and people get on this “he can’t win elections” mantra. The MSM has done its job - even on Freepers.

He’ll be fine.


40 posted on 03/13/2012 8:16:04 PM PDT by Catsrus
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To: bimboeruption

“Gingrich needs to wake up and smell the coffee.
A few, very vocal people think he’s great...the rest of us have reviewed his record.
Bye-bye Mr. Brilliant.”

If that’s the standard, then I’m going to assume that you’re voting for none of the GOP candidates? I’ve reviewed all their records and sorry to say that ALL of them are sadly lacking.


41 posted on 03/13/2012 8:19:12 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (Voting "None of the Above" in 2012.)
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To: LonelyCon

I’m not happy about it because I just don’t see Santorum as the guy for restoring the constitutional republic but lets see how the delegate count shakes out. As long as its mathematically possible for Newt to win he should stay in. When it gets past that then Newt needs to drop out.


42 posted on 03/13/2012 8:20:42 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I agree 100%


43 posted on 03/13/2012 8:23:10 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Lazlo in PA

Hey Laz. WE DID IT. GAME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


44 posted on 03/13/2012 8:41:53 PM PDT by Mountain Mary ("This is OUR country and WE will decide"... Mark Levin)
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To: AGreatPer

It was a good speech but Rick won both states.


45 posted on 03/13/2012 8:42:52 PM PDT by Mountain Mary ("This is OUR country and WE will decide"... Mark Levin)
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To: redangus

They are either moderate republicans or are buying the, only Mitt can win, story.

- - - - -
And he gets 98% of the Mormon vote, which considering they want to get the vote out for him, covers UT, Colo, ID, NV, and HI.


46 posted on 03/13/2012 9:02:53 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Mountain Mary

Great job Mary!!!!


47 posted on 03/13/2012 9:31:55 PM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: napscoordinator; Lazlo in PA

It’s rewarding to stand up to the Santorum haters...and finding out that if we do, they fold like cheap tents.


48 posted on 03/14/2012 6:09:56 AM PDT by Mountain Mary ("This is OUR country and WE will decide"... Mark Levin)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“As long as its mathematically possible for Newt to win he should stay in. When it gets past that then Newt needs to drop out.”

Which is now because it is mathematically impossible for Newt to win.


49 posted on 03/14/2012 6:13:10 AM PDT by Mountain Mary ("This is OUR country and WE will decide"... Mark Levin)
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To: Catsrus

You never know which Santorum will show up either, but you can bet he will have a sneer on his face......http://www.newt.org/news/video-senator-santorum-in-his-own-words/


50 posted on 03/14/2012 6:15:59 AM PDT by csmusaret (I have kleptomania, but when it gets too bad I take something.)
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