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Santorum Wins Mississippi and Alabama Primaries [Gingrich Vows To Continue To Tampa]
MSNBC ^ | March 13, 2012 | Michael O'Brien,

Posted on 03/13/2012 8:08:17 PM PDT by Steelfish

Santorum Wins Mississippi and Alabama Primaries

By Michael O'Brien, msnbc.com -- Rick Santorum scored victories in the Mississippi and Alabama primaries on Tuesday, depriving Mitt Romney of a signature win in a conservative stronghold and raising fresh doubts about the viability of Newt Gingrich's campaign.

The former Pennsylvania senator made his case for being the lone, serious Republican challenger to Romney for the remainder of the primary by besting Gingrich in states the former speaker's campaign had previously said were essential to its long-term viability.

“We did it again,” Santorum said to wild applause from supporters in Louisiana, and amid projections by NBC News that he would win both Mississippi and Alabama.

Romney had hoped to score a victory in Mississippi, thereby proving his ability to win a state that composes part of the heart of the modern GOP. But he appeared to be heading to a third-place finish in both contests, failing to even surpass Gingrich, a candidate who’s weathered growing calls to exit the race.

A former governor of Massachusetts, Romney acknowledged these contests were an “away game” for a figure like him, marking an effort to set low expectations for how he might finish in the contests.

John David Mercer / AP Republican presidential candidate, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney greets supporters who braved the rain during a campaign stop at the Whistle Stop Cafe, Monday, March 12, 2012 in Mobile, Ala.

The Romney campaign was able to pick up delegates in both states, contributing to its march to collect the 1,144 delegates needed to secure the nomination. His campaign was also likely to pick up those crucial delegates in Hawaii's caucuses, which were set to take place overnight. A total of 107 delegates were up for grabs between the three states on Tuesday.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Alabama; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: byebyenewt; newt4obama; newt4romney
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"This is a huge, huge night for Santorum" says CNN's Wolf Blitzer. Gingrich says he'll fight on all through Tampa. Exit Polls say Gingrich and Santorum split Tea-Party and male vote.
1 posted on 03/13/2012 8:08:19 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Hopefully, the N-ewt Pelosi crowd will now call it quits.


2 posted on 03/13/2012 8:10:59 PM PDT by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: Steelfish

Good for him. There’s absolutely no reason for Gingrich to drop out after two extremely close 2nd place finishes that even two weeks ago looked impossible for him. Santorum seriously underperformed tonight, and most of his loss over the last two weeks appear to have shifted to Newt. The trend may yet be Newt’s friend.


3 posted on 03/13/2012 8:11:23 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: NavVet
Hopefully, the N-ewt Pelosi crowd will now call it quits.

Santorum might stand a chance in Pennsylvania if he can get a reciprocating endorsement from Arlen Specter and Sonya Sotomayor?

4 posted on 03/13/2012 8:12:41 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Yashcheritsiy

I’ll support Newt all the way to where he takes it.


5 posted on 03/13/2012 8:13:15 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Yashcheritsiy

“Good for him” = “Great for Romney”


6 posted on 03/13/2012 8:14:01 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

Newt’s supporters won’t be pleased by this. But, thank God, Romney was edged out anyway. It was very close—although if you put the two conservatives together, Romney lost by a 2-1 margin.

Hard to say where Ron Paul voters would go if he dropped out. But he won’t, anyway. He is too fond of himself to do that, and he seems to enjoy being a spoiler. Plus, it does seem likely that Romney has promised him the VP-ship for Rand if he wins with Ron’s help.


7 posted on 03/13/2012 8:14:27 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Did newt win a state yet?


8 posted on 03/13/2012 8:14:53 PM PDT by makomako
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To: Red Steel

Problem: It’s taking all of us to Romney


9 posted on 03/13/2012 8:15:19 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

Unfortunately, “Good for Santorum” = “Great for Obama.”

Rick Santorum is possibly the only guy running who would likely lose to Obama, even with Obama tanking in his own polls.


10 posted on 03/13/2012 8:16:00 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: NavVet
"Hopefully, the N-ewt Pelosi crowd will now call it quits."

My hope is that America is not dumb enough to support the santorum-spector side show.
11 posted on 03/13/2012 8:17:15 PM PDT by JoSixChip (santorum is Mr Rogers without a spine. Check his record, not his rhetoric.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Santorum seriously underperformed tonight, and most of his loss over the last two weeks appear to have shifted to Newt. The trend may yet be Newt’s friend.

That makes NO sense whatsoever.

12 posted on 03/13/2012 8:19:40 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Cicero
Newt’s supporters won’t be pleased by this.

Shoot, I'm pleased as punch this evening.

If these primaries had been held three weeks ago, Newt would have finished a distant third in both, losing to both Santorum and Romney by at least ten points. As it stands, he finished a close second in both, in large part because Santorum underperformed among groups that are supposedly his core source of support. Even though Santorum won, the results tonight suggest that Santorum's slide is still continuing, and that Newt's momentum is still building, both of these observable trends over the past three weeks that remain true, regardless of headlines.

13 posted on 03/13/2012 8:20:49 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Yashcheritsiy

But GallupUSA showed Santorum beating Obama by a point and Gingrich trailing so far behind Obama that he fell out of the rear view mirror.


14 posted on 03/13/2012 8:20:54 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Timber Rattler
That makes NO sense whatsoever.

It makes perfect sense, if you look at a period of time longer than six hours.

15 posted on 03/13/2012 8:21:48 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Steelfish

Problem - Ricky would get rolled by Obama.


16 posted on 03/13/2012 8:22:35 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Yeah. Like Romney, he’ll depress turnout of the Republican party... only getting 1/3 of it (ie: the social conservatives).

While at the same time, he’ll energize the Democraps to turn out for Obama, just so they can try and stop him.

Which is not good.

But, that’s what the Republican voter is wanting. And he’ll get it.


17 posted on 03/13/2012 8:23:55 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Gingrich was expected to win these states. They are in his backyard. A week ago his campaign manager said that if he loses any one of them, he’d quit. The Gingrich camp and his campers on FR were booze dizzy with the polls showing Gingrich in the lead 24 hours ago. So close seconds don’t count here.


18 posted on 03/13/2012 8:24:46 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish
But GallupUSA showed Santorum beating Obama by a point and Gingrich trailing so far behind Obama that he fell out of the rear view mirror.

So?

Seriously, any of this head-to-head polling between GOP candidate X and Obama right now, eight months before election night, means diddly. This would be true, even if Gingrich were leading Obama in it by 20 points. Again - polling eight months before the culmination of what is almost assuredly going to be one of the most dynamic elections in American history is absolutely meaningless.

Or, to put it into perspective, at this point in 1980, Reagan was trailing Carter by twenty points in putative head-to-head pollings, which was of course an "extremely powerful and overwhelming argument" for not nominating him.

And before you try to retort with the childish comment that "Newt ain't Ronald Reagan," keep in mind that at this point in 1980, Ronald Reagan wasn't Ronald Reagan.

19 posted on 03/13/2012 8:25:59 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Yashcheritsiy
It makes perfect sense, if you look at a period of time longer than six hours.


20 posted on 03/13/2012 8:26:33 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: JoSixChip

Hey Jo did you switch horses, you were supporting Romney on the other thread. The Zot mobile may show up if you continue to swap horses.


21 posted on 03/13/2012 8:27:28 PM PDT by itsahoot (Tag lines are a waste of bandwidth, as are my comments.)
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To: Steelfish; All

Romney is praying that Newt stays in. Newt Gingrich is the best friend he has right now. Newt is my man. I’d have loved to have seen him become President of the United States, but, it’s time for him to go.


22 posted on 03/13/2012 8:28:25 PM PDT by no dems (No RINO-Rom, no Kook-Daddy and no "out of touch" Rev. Rick........Gingrich.... YES!!!)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

I won’t restate the obvious that “Newt ain’t Ronald Reagan” but the demographics of the electorate has changed. We need Santorum who connects with blue-collar voters and can win some of the key Rust-Belt states.


23 posted on 03/13/2012 8:29:34 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish
Gingrich was expected to win these states. They are in his backyard. A week ago his campaign manager said that if he loses any one of them, he’d quit. The Gingrich camp and his campers on FR were booze dizzy with the polls showing Gingrich in the lead 24 hours ago. So close seconds don’t count here.

Try as you might, the fact remains that Newt is rising, and Santorum is dropping. Santorum should have had both states by ten points, and didn't because his support among white males and evangelicals is slipping.

But sure, go ahead and keep reacting to the last 24 hours instead of paying attention to the last 24 days. If that makes you happy, then go for it.

24 posted on 03/13/2012 8:29:34 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Steelfish; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy
I've made up my choice, but Rick needs to come visit Illinois before visiting Puerto Rico. I am pretty sure we have more delegates and the right wing vote after tonight will go to Santorum.

As I said earlier I've been all over the state the last few months, no Romney signs but lots of Santorum signs.

If I get in trouble for admitting my vote, I apologize to those who still support Newt who I respect, but I am voting for Rick Santorum and hopefully my fellow IL FReepers do and the rest of the conservatives in this hell hole state come out in droves for Rick!!!

25 posted on 03/13/2012 8:29:46 PM PDT by Dengar01 (Go Bulls!!! Go Blackhawks!!!)
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To: Red Steel

It was Newt and his “Southern Strategy” that got rolled tonight.


26 posted on 03/13/2012 8:30:02 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Steelfish

By hanging on Gingrich can tip the nomination to Mittens in the hopes that he would then be “entitled” to the VP slot.


27 posted on 03/13/2012 8:30:21 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: NavVet

“Hopefully, the N-ewt Pelosi crowd will now call it quits.”

Posts like yours make it hard to do that. I can support your guy, but I don’t like him. Make it a burden and I won’t bother.


28 posted on 03/13/2012 8:30:33 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I think we ought to listen to Alinsky." - Governor G. Romney, father of Bishop Willard M. Romney.)
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To: Steelfish
Gingrich was expected to win these states.

That's absolutely true, even Newt will agree with you.

Still, I think Romney is not desired at all by conservatives, and Santorum will get eaten alive by Obama.

Newt is the only, remaining, non-Mitt who can take it to Obama.

29 posted on 03/13/2012 8:30:54 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: Cicero

“But, thank God, Romney was edged out anyway”

Yup.


30 posted on 03/13/2012 8:31:18 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I think we ought to listen to Alinsky." - Governor G. Romney, father of Bishop Willard M. Romney.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy; All

Newt is on FOX now. He just made two good points for not dropping out. He pointed out:

1. Rick Santorum went head-to-head with Romney in Ohio and lost and Michigan and lost.

2. If Romney has only one opponent to pour his money and negative ads into rather than two candidates, he will clean his opponent’s clock.

Newt could be right.


31 posted on 03/13/2012 8:32:05 PM PDT by no dems (No RINO-Rom, no Kook-Daddy and no "out of touch" Rev. Rick........Gingrich.... YES!!!)
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To: Steelfish
We need Santorum who connects with blue-collar voters and can win some of the key Rust-Belt states.

Yeah, he connects with blue-collar voters so well that they tossed his rear end out of Pennsylvania's Senate seat by an 18-point margin.

Good grief, anyone who thinks Santorum could actually win the general election is nuts. Certifiably nuts. You people are wishcasting the Republican Party off a cliff.

32 posted on 03/13/2012 8:32:35 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Rudder

Newt has been called a “Hindenberg ready to explode.” He’s heavy duty baggage will sink a cruise liner.


33 posted on 03/13/2012 8:33:40 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: tennmountainman

If you SantoBots had better attitudes, you may get some Newt supporters to vote for your guy.


34 posted on 03/13/2012 8:34:14 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Yashcheritsiy
. Santorum seriously underperformed tonight

How did he did that considering he was behind in the polls in both states going into the primaries?

You're living a fantasy world.

35 posted on 03/13/2012 8:34:14 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Timber Rattler; Yashcheritsiy

Santorum seriously underperformed tonight, and most of his loss over the last two weeks appear to have shifted to Newt. The trend may yet be Newt’s friend.


That makes NO sense whatsoever.


Agree - that made no sense. I hate it but tonight was a serious body blow that put Newt down on one knee. There is really no way to sugarcoat it.

Yash - I doubted Santorum. I doubted he could even place in the top 3 of any primary when this thing started. I won’t doubt him again. He does not get the media coverage and has little money but he is posting wins. Conventional wisdom has been wrong througout this race so don’t put much stock in the polls that say Santorum loses to Obama.

Bottom line for this primary has been that the polls are full of crap. I won’t doubt Santorum again although I still prefer Gingrich.


36 posted on 03/13/2012 8:34:45 PM PDT by volunbeer (Keep the dope, we'll make the change in 2012!)
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To: makomako

Newt has won 2 states—South Carolina and Georgia.


37 posted on 03/13/2012 8:35:32 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Steelfish
Gingrich was expected to win these states. They are in his backyard. A week ago his campaign manager said that if he loses any one of them, he’d quit

He's invincable! /sarc

38 posted on 03/13/2012 8:35:42 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Santorum might stand a chance in Pennsylvania if he can get a reciprocating endorsement from Arlen Specter and Sonya Sotomayor?

That would probably do more good than a Newt endorsement from Nancy Pelosi in California.

39 posted on 03/13/2012 8:35:42 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

C’mom. Had it not been for Gingrich, Santorum would have won MI and OH. Gingrich was tossed out of Congress by his own colleagues.


40 posted on 03/13/2012 8:36:16 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

C’mom. Had it not been for Gingrich, Santorum would have won MI and OH. Gingrich was tossed out of Congress by his own colleagues.


41 posted on 03/13/2012 8:36:28 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: itsahoot
"Hey Jo did you switch horses, you were supporting Romney on the other thread. The Zot mobile may show up if you continue to swap horses."

See, that is what concerns me about this country, people like you vote. I have never supported mitt, never. I did however suggest that as bad as mitt is, he is far superior to santorum as a candidate.
42 posted on 03/13/2012 8:37:09 PM PDT by JoSixChip (santorum is Mr Rogers without a spine. Check his record, not his rhetoric.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Rick Santorum is possibly the only guy running who would likely lose to Obama

Yet, every poll out there recently shows him ahead or neck-and-neck with Obama and doing better than Gingrich against him.

43 posted on 03/13/2012 8:37:14 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Red Steel
Problem - Ricky would get rolled by Obama.

All you're doing is parroting what the liberal says on the issue.

44 posted on 03/13/2012 8:38:22 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: no dems
Newt could be right.

Well, yeah. Like him or hate him, you have to admit that Newt is a strategic thinker. That's why he doesn't waste money trying to win meaningless, no-delegate primaries in Missouri, while Santorum pours money down the toilet to grab a headline. That's why he's still in this thing period, despite having only won two states so far.

And Santorum's supporters tend to be the same way. They pat themselves on the back for winning two primaries by less than 4% that Santorum should easily have had by double digits, and would have three weeks ago. In politics, there really is such a thing as momentum, and for the past three weeks, Newt's has been upward and Santorum's has been downward. They can chirrip about it all they like, but that fact remains true. Newt overperformed, and Santorum underperformed. That happened because of the longer-term trending going on - something that I'm sure Newt's staffers can recognise as easily as I can, and which is why he's still saying he's in it till Tampa, even when the short-term thinkers are flabbergasted and astounded that he hasn't conceded tonight.

45 posted on 03/13/2012 8:39:26 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Red Steel

Apparently Santorum is getting votes somewhere.
Just imagine what Santorum could do, if had all that Casino Owners money like Newt.


46 posted on 03/13/2012 8:40:37 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Yashcheritsiy
You people are wishcasting the Republican Party off a cliff.

The corrupt, decrepit Republican Party needs to be thrown off the cliff.

47 posted on 03/13/2012 8:41:03 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: NavVet
Why would Newt get out? Your sainted senator apparently can "win" with a three-way race and it looks like Romney will be third.

The object should be to keep Romney from reaching the magic number. It's too late for one of the alternatives to win outright.

2012 is lost, even if the GOP wins in Nov.

48 posted on 03/13/2012 8:41:02 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Santorum: 18-point loss, voted for Sotomayor, proposed $550M on top of $900M Amtrak budget...)
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To: no dems
Rick Santorum went head-to-head with Romney in Ohio and lost and Michigan and lost.

BARELY and despite being outspent 12-1 in Ohio.

And, Romney, at some point soon, isn't going to be able to keep spending that sort of money on smearing his opponents.

Newt went head-to-head with Romney in Florida and was beaten by double digits.

At some point reality has to set in and you're going to have realize it is Santorum or Romney. And, Santorum is the better choice.

49 posted on 03/13/2012 8:41:19 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: JoSixChip

The strength of Santorum vs Obama can be gauged by the ecstatic celebration of his victory on CNN tonight. Given the choice of the 4 GOP contenders (and I am being kind to call Ron Paul a contender but hey he shows up to the game each week)the Rats are praying for Santorum.


50 posted on 03/13/2012 8:41:30 PM PDT by azcap (Who is John Galt ? www.conservativeshirts.com)
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