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Mitt Romney wins Hawaii caucuses
LA Times ^ | March 14, 2012 | AP

Posted on 03/14/2012 2:18:06 AM PDT by Pinkbell

WASHINGTON— Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has won the Republican presidential caucuses in Hawaii, salvaging a much-needed victory after resurgent rival Rick Santorum won primaries in Alabama and Mississippi on Tuesday.

Romney finished a disappointing third behind Santorum and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich in the Deep South primaries. But he came back to edge out both rivals in Hawaii and added a sweep of delegates from Republican nominating caucuses in American Samoa.

Texas Rep. Ron Paul finished fourth in both Southern primaries, and third in the Hawaii caucuses.

Romney got nine delegates in American Samoa.

About 70 Republicans in the U.S. territory 2,300 miles south of Hawaii met in caucus Tuesday. The six delegates selected at the meeting and three superdelegates to the Republican National Convention all said they would support Romney.

Falemao M. Pili, vice chairman of the local Republican Party and a delegate, said he believes Romney can fix the U.S. economy that extends to American Samoa. He says Romney can "turn this country around."

Last weekend, Romney captured all 18 delegates at caucuses in two other U.S. possessions in the Pacific -- Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: hawaii; romney; santorm; santorum
He got 45% of the vote. It wasn't close. Santorum got 25%, Paul got 19%, and Gingrich got 11%.

Hawaii usually goes Democrat anyway, right? Romney is good at winning liberal states and big cities that are liberal, but all these are areas that will likely end up going for Obama this year. He usually loses the conservative areas, and those are what he will need in the Fall.

1 posted on 03/14/2012 2:18:13 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell

Which means that even in leftist Hawaii, Slick Willard still can’t muster a majority.


2 posted on 03/14/2012 2:24:30 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj
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To: Pinkbell

I ran Hilo’s biggest district tonight. Romney just squeaked past Santorum, Paul a close 3rd and Gingrich pretty far back at 4th. Excellent turnout statewide, much beyond our expectations. Don’t forget there’s a large Mormon population here, and in Samoa as well. I would say folks are chomping at the bit to vote, a good sign, even out here in LiberalLaLaLand.


3 posted on 03/14/2012 2:36:54 AM PDT by jobim (.)
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To: Pinkbell

Hawaii is a communist state.


4 posted on 03/14/2012 4:20:08 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Pinkbell

Did Romney campaign in Hawaii? Would have been funny to hear him say “Aloha, Y’all!” and talk about his love of poi.


5 posted on 03/14/2012 4:42:44 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Mitt Romney is SEVERELY conservative - and I'm SEVERELY against giving him my vote!)
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To: Pinkbell

Mitt is the closest thing to Obama, and Hawaiians love Obama.


6 posted on 03/14/2012 4:51:34 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Pinkbell

Mitt wins a primary in another leftwing blue state............that he’ll lose in the general election anway. BIG DEAL.


7 posted on 03/14/2012 5:04:30 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: Pinkbell

In case you are too busy listening to the #MSM, Romney (40) won more delegate yesterday than Santorum (35) or Gingrich (25).


8 posted on 03/14/2012 5:49:10 AM PDT by MichaelNewton
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To: Pinkbell

Anybody want to sign up for a basketweaving class this year?


9 posted on 03/14/2012 6:03:42 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Gingrich 2012: Open Throttle for America)
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To: MichaelNewton

That is 40 out of 100, not a majority, which makes it a good night. What I don’t understand is how Romney got the same number as delegates as Santorum in Mississippi, a state where Romney finished 3rd. The process is very flawed. Also saw a delegate analysis for all state this morning and Romney has picked up delegates in almost every state, even states such as Pennsylvania that haven’t even voted. They need to have a series of national primaries, winnowing down the field until someone takes a majority of the vote. Have a substantive debates before each vote. Either that or just ditch the primaries and go to a brokered convention of all uncommitted delegates every time. This current system is garbage.


10 posted on 03/14/2012 6:04:45 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Pinkbell

Romney is “Obama Light”. Hawaii is a state full of “takers”. It makes sense he’d win there.


11 posted on 03/14/2012 6:06:38 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Don't blame me; I voted for the American.)
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To: COBOL2Java
Would have been funny to hear him say “Aloha, Y’all!” and talk about his love of poi.

...with grits.

Oh, wait... he doesn't need those Southern hayseeds anymore 'til November.

12 posted on 03/14/2012 6:26:04 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: Lady Lucky

Sign me up :>(


13 posted on 03/14/2012 6:47:19 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: jacknhoo
Hawaii is a communist state.

It also has a large Mormon presence.

14 posted on 03/14/2012 7:07:23 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: Pinkbell
Where ever Romney wins will become Obamas state in the end..Those foolish people vote for the loser democrats every time..If you notice where there is poverty and high cost of living (the places the democrats have made)there is poverty..

If Romney gets the nomination we might as well look for four more years of hell..because Obama will not stop until he has this whole country looking like all of the ghetto places and us rummaging throw trash cans for food..Hey that would be a good ad show people going through the trash to find enough food for their children to eat..and then say this is what we will have if Obama gets reelected.. My advice to every one is store food and water and start now water is most important..Lots of Ammo and get a gun you will need one or more to keep you in meat to eat..

15 posted on 03/14/2012 7:16:00 AM PDT by PLD
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To: PLD

People in HI are precommitt4ed to their “favorite son” Obama and would also like a third term for Obama if the Constitution were changed; oh well, maybe he could run in 2016 anyway in that he is so popular with the uninformed of America. After all, the “uninformed need representation too.” to paraphrase the late Roman Hruska, R-NE.


16 posted on 03/14/2012 7:38:45 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Mathematically, it's all over, says Mittens. I'm afraid the people will again let us down.)
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To: Pinkbell

Hawaii also has a large Mormon population and they are voting for Romney as a bloc.


17 posted on 03/14/2012 7:45:48 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: MachIV

yep, I’ve noticed that too. Mitt only seems able to win states in the primary that he won’t have a chance in heck of winning in the general.

And everywhere he needs to win in the general, he is hated.

This is a setup for disaster.


18 posted on 03/14/2012 7:48:34 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Yep, and he will also lose his home state(s) of Massachusetts and Michigan. McCain will look like Reagan in 1980 when the smoke clears on November 8th.


19 posted on 03/14/2012 7:56:59 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: Pinkbell
Well, actually any of our candidates will have to win the swing states...Florida, Ohio, Michigan, etc. Any of the four candidates would be an order of magnitude better than Obama.

If we elect a solid majority in the House and the Senate (and we have to do that for any of these candidates if we want to make marked progress), I believe any of the four would work that congress and make a significant change in the country and its direction.

Having said that, Romney is quite a bit less desirable than Rick or Newt...and Rick is showing that he can fight Romney and win...particularly if all of the conservative vote is behind him.

If Newt threw in with Santorum tomorrow, I think Romney would get a few percentage of Newt's vote. I believe Paul would get a smaller percent.

So, let's say for grins that Newt threw in the towel and endorsed Santorum completely, advising his delegates to vote for Rick and then going on the campaign trail for him too.

If 6-7% of those people went for Mitt and 5% went for Paul, you would have 88% going to Rick.

In Alabama and Mississippi, this would have meant that Rick would have had a clear majority in both states, on the order of 60% or more. In one of those states (can't remeber which) if one candidate got over 50%, it was winner take all. Let's say that was Alabama.

Here's how it would have changed last night:

Alabama
Candidate - Actual delegates - Single Conservative Result
Santorum - 18 - 50
Gingrich - 12 - 0
Romney - 12 - 0

Mississippi
Candidate - Actual delegates - Single Conservative Result
Santorum - 13 - 25
Gingrich - 12 - 0
Romney 12 - 12

Hawaii
Candidate - Actual delegates - Single Conservative Result
Santrorum - 1 - 2
Gingrich - 0 - 0 Romney - 15 - 14

Am. Samoa
Candidate - Actual delegates - Single Conservative Result
Santorum - 0 - 0
Gingrich - 0 - 0
Romnay - 9 - 9

What this means is that last night isntead of Santorum getting a total of 32 delegates and Romney 47, Santorum would have gotten 77 delegates and Romney 35. That's how it would begin to eat into Romney's lead.

As it was, Romney incresed his lead. Here are the detailed results from my GOP Primary Tracker Site:


2012 GOP Presidential Primary Season Tracker (including caucuses) - LAST UPDATE: March 14, 2012

2012 GOP Primaries Date Mitt Romney Newt Gingrich Rick Santorum Ron Paul Ron Huntsman Rick Perry Michele Bachman Herman Cain Totals
Votes % Del's Win Votes % Del's Win Votes % Del's Win Votes % Del's Win Votes % Del's Votes % Del's Votes % Del's Votes % Del's Votes Del's
Iowa 1/3/2012 29,805 24.58% 7 - 16,163 13.33% 2 - 29,839 24.61% 7 1 26,036 21.47% 7 - 739 0.61% 0 12,557 10.36% 0 6,046 4.99% 0 58 0.05% 0 121,243 23
New Hamp 1/10/2012 97,601 39.81% 7 1 23,291 9.50% 0 - 23,362 9.53% 0 - 56,872 23.20% 3 - 41,783 17.04% 2 1,764 0.72% 0 350 0.14% 0 160 0.07% 0 245,183 12
South Caro 1/21/2012 168,152 27.86% 2 - 244,133 40.44% 23 1 102,492 16.98% 0 - 78,362 12.98% 0 - 1,173 0.19% 0 2,534 0.42% 0 491 0.08% 0 6,326 1.05% 0 603,663 25
Florida 1/31/2012 776,059 46.44% 50 2 534,040 31.96% 0 - 223,208 13.36% 0 - 117,410 7.03% 0 - 6,199 0.37% 0 6,773 0.41% 0 3,967 0.24% 0 3,492 0.21% 0 1,671,148 50
Nevada 2/4/2012 16,486 50.12% 14 3 6,956 21.15% 6 - 3,277 9.96% 3 - 6,175 18.77% 5 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 32,894 28
Main   2,190 39.65% 9 4 349 6.32% 0 - 989 17.90% 3 - 1,996 36.13% 7 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 5,524 19
Colorado 2/7/2012 22,875 35.00% 13 - 8,394 12.84% 1 - 26,372 40.35% 17 2 7,713 11.80% 1 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 65,354 32
Minnesota   8,096 16.97% 2 - 5,134 10.76% 1 - 21,436 44.94% 25 3 13,030 27.32% 9 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 47,696 14
Missouri   63,826 26.24% 0 - 9,859 4.05% 0 - 138,957 57.12% 0 4 30,641 12.59% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 243,283 0
Arizona 2/28/2012 216,805 47.99% 29 5 74,110 16.40% 0 - 122,088 27.03% 0 - 38,753 8.58% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 451,756 29
Michigan   409,899 42.34% 16 6 65,016 6.72% 0 - 377,521 38.99% 14 - 115,712 11.95% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 968,148 30
Washington 3/3/2012 19,111 37.65% 30 7 5,221 10.28% 0 - 12,089 23.81% 5 - 12,594 24.81% 5 - 924 1.82% 0 437 0.86% 0 198 0.39% 0 190 0.37% 0 50,764 40
Wyoming   822 38.99% 10 8 165 7.83% 1 - 673 31.93% 9 - 439 20.83% 6 - 3 0.14% 0 2 0.09% 0 2 0.09% 0 2 0.09% 0 2,108 26
Alaska 3/6/2012 4,285 32.52% 8 9 1,856 14.09% 3 - 3,860 29.30% 7 - 3,175 24.10% 6 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 13,176 24
Georgia S 225,926 25.18% 15 - 417,364 47.81% 47 2 172,473 19.76% 10 - 57,125 6.54% 4 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 872,888 76
Idaho u 27,514 61.61% 32 10 940 2.11% 0 - 8,115 18.17% 0 - 8,086 18.11% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 44,655 32
Massachusetts p 260,509 73.29% 41 11 16,756 4.71% 0 - 43,6114 12.27% 0 - 34,575 9.735 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 355,455 41
N. Dakota  e 2,691 23.71% 7 - 961 8.48% 2 - 4,510 39.74% 11 5 3,186 28.07% 8 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 11,349 28
Ohio r 453,927 38.93% 32 12 174,606 14.78% 10 - 441,908 37.42% 20 - 110,633 9.37% 4 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 1,181,074 66
Oklahoma 80,291 28.34% 13 - 78,686 27.77% 13 - 96,759 34.15% 14 6 27,572 9.73% 13 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 283,208 43
Tennessee T 153,889 28.46% 18 - 132,142 24.43% 12 - 204,978 37.90% 26 7 49,782 9.21% 2 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 540,791 58
Vermont u 22,533 41.01% 9 13 4,606 8.39% 0 - 13,401 24.39% 4 - 14,407 26.22% 4 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 54,949 17
Virginia e 158,050 59.52% 44 14 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 107,470 40.48% 5 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 265,520 49
Guam 3/10/2012 215 100% 9 15 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 215 9
Marianna Is 738 87.03% 9 16 29 3.42% 0 - 27 3.18% 0 - 54 6.37% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 848 9
Virgin Is 132 46.32% 7 17 18 6.32% 0 - 23 8.07% 0 - 112 39.30% 1 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 848 8
Kansas 6,250 21.11% 7 - 4,298 14.52% 0 - 15,290 51.65% 33 8 3,767 12.72% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 29,605 40
Alabama 3/13/2012 178,601 29.70% 11 - 179,919 29.92% 12 - 212,343 35,31% 18 9 30,494 5.07% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 601,357 50
Mississippi 85,922 30.66% 12 - 88,676 31.64% 12 - 93,182 33.25% 13 10 12,498 4.46% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 40-
Am Samoa 70 100% 9 17 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 9
Hawaii 4,250 45.38% 15 18 1,034 11.04% 0 - 2,369 25.30% 1 - 1,712 18.28% 4 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 40
Missouri 3/17/2012 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 52
Puerto Rico 3/18/2024 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 23
Illinois 3/20/2012 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 69
Louisiana 3/24/2012 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 46
DC 4/3/2012 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 19
Maryland 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 37
Wisconsin 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 42
Conn 4/24/2012 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 28
Deleware 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 17
New York 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 95
Pennsylvania 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 72
Rhode Il 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 28
                                                               
At large Del's       30       4       2       0       0     0     0         36
TOTALS   3,513,072 38.50% 520 19 2,103,711 23.05% 148 2 2,404,803 26.35% 249 10 974,095 10.68% 83 0 64,481 0.71% 2 38,011 0.42% 0 16,529 0.18% 0 10,228 0.11% 0 9,125,930 1002
To Date % of Delegates Romney 52% Gingrich 15% Santorum 21% Paul 9.7% Huntsman 0.30% Perry 0% Bachman 0% Cain 0%

Again, it is even more clear after these primaries, that only by uniting, can Santorum and Gingrich prevent Romney from having the chance of winning the nomination outright. It would not have helped in Hawaii or American Samoa, but it would have given a much larger delegate count to the single more conservative candidate in Alabama and Mississippi. If they do not do this soon, mathematically, Romney will ultimately eak out a win and reach the golden number of delegates before the convention, sometime probably in late May or early June. It still seems, for whatever reason, that Gingrich is unwilling to do this.

With Gingrich's "southern strategy" now in a shambles (He has won two (Georigia and South Carolina), Romney has won two (Florida and Virginia) and Santorum has won three (Tennessee, Mississippi and Alabama)), the pressure on Gingrich to unite behind Santorum is going to grow in both strength and urgency. Seven southern states votes and Santorum i ss leading the pack with three and Romney and Gingrich with two each in the south.

In the end, I will support whichever of these candidates wins the GOP nomination against the abject marxist ideolog, Obama, as any one of them will be far better. Four more years of his horrific leadership and fundamental change could easily put this nation in a economic, debt, foreign policy, and energy hole we will have a very difficult and very painful time of digging our way out of...and at the cost of decades of heavy burden placed on our children and grandchildren if we can do so at all and reverse the trends and mechanisms Obama is putting in place.

America is at the Crossroads of History
(http://www.jeffhead.com/crossroads.htm)

20 posted on 03/14/2012 8:37:36 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Lady Lucky

I won’t have to pay, ya!

Someone else will pay for me.


21 posted on 03/14/2012 11:09:12 AM PDT by malia
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To: fieldmarshaldj

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jLGa4X5H2c


22 posted on 03/14/2012 11:52:57 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Establishment is the establishment.)
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To: MichaelNewton
These are winner-take-all states, dates, and dels:

Missouri (52) March 17
The District of Columbia (19) April 3
Connecticut (28) April 24
Delaware (17) April 24
New York (95) April 24
Montana (26) June 5
New Jersey (50) June 5
Utah (40) June 26

327, adding in my head. Willard will take 249 of those best-case from his standpoint, that is, assuming things remain as they were prior to yesterday in AL/MS. That would bring him to 676 counting winner-take-all only and favorable circumstances. That leaves a cushion of 468 proportionally-allocated delegates.

Bottom line: Keeping Romney from 1,144 is eminently doable.

23 posted on 03/14/2012 1:13:24 PM PDT by Lexinom (Mitt < 1,144)
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To: Lexinom

Correction, 776 assuming favorable circumstances remain for Willard. If he loses a state like New Jersey or New York, he’s in deep doo-doo.


24 posted on 03/14/2012 1:17:14 PM PDT by Lexinom (Mitt < 1,144)
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To: Lexinom

Isn’t California (172) winner-take-all?


25 posted on 03/15/2012 3:20:48 PM PDT by davandbar
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To: davandbar
California is technically a winner-take-all state, but because basically all of its delegates are awarded by congressional district, there is the possibility that they get sliced up any number of ways.

(source)

26 posted on 03/15/2012 3:40:44 PM PDT by Lexinom (Mitt < 1,144)
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To: Lexinom

I wonder why it is even called, “winner-take-all.” It sounds more like “delegates awarded by district.”

Thanks for the info!


27 posted on 03/15/2012 3:55:11 PM PDT by davandbar
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To: Pinkbell
Mitt Romney wins Hawaii caucuses

The MORMON religious Empire owns HOW much land in Hawaii?




28 posted on 03/16/2012 5:12:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
The MORMON religious Empire owns HOW much land in Hawaii?



Despite the worst recession in the United States since the Great Depression, Pres. Obama's recent warning that the US economy could slip back into recession, a double-digit decline in tourism in Hawaii, the Obama Admin.'s plan to add $8 trillion to the current national debt of $12 trillion (raising the national debt load by 2020 to 150% of Gross Domestic Product from its current level of 80%), and the extra $2.5 billion that the 'one, true' church, LD$, Inc., is spending on its Great & Spacious Mall-and-Condos project in SLC (the cost estimate in 2003 was 'just' $500M), Mormon 'profits' have authorized construction of the church's new, multi-million-dollar hotel in Hawaii.

"The 45-year-old Laie Inn, adjacent to BYU-Hawaii and the Polynesian Cultural Center, closed for business Nov. 1 and will be demolished to make room for a new development."

"Groundbreaking for the new, modestly sized hotel is expected by the end of 2010." (ref. http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705342390/Laie-Inn-closing-for-new-hotel.html)

Given the backlash from church members about the Great & Spacious Mall-and-Condos project (i.e., plenty of Latter-day Saints stopping payment of tithing after discovering that the church was spending billions of dollars on the project), it's not surprising that there is no mention of hotel size or cost in the Des. News report. However, non-LDS news sources have reported on both aspects of the hotel project. From Dec./07:

"Officials from Marriott International Inc. say the company is close to signing an agreement to operate a new 220-room hotel planned for La'ie.

The new hotel, which is expected to be completed sometime in 2010, would replace the 48-room Lai'e Inn, which is controlled by Hawaii Reserves Inc., the land management arm of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints."

"Beaver [Eric Beaver, Hawaii Reserves Inc.'s president] said the original $30 million cost estimate given when the hotel plan was first proposed in 2004 is outdated. He said he could not provide an updated cost." (ref. http://www.eturbonews.com/255/hawaii-reserves-plans-220room-laie-hotel)

Given what's happened to the cost of the church's Great & Spacious Mall-and-Condos project in six years (a 500-percent increase), would it be unreasonable to expect that the new, 220-room hotel in Hawaii will end up costing more than $200 million? I don't think so.

Apparently, President & CEO Jesus Christ of LD$, Inc. again wants to spend several million dollars on yet another commercial real estate venture in the debt-ridden USA than do something Christian (in the United States or elsewhere in the world), like feed a portion of the 1 billion people worldwide who are malnourished (ref. www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090619121443.htm) or save 16,400-plus children from starving to death each day (ref. http://wvgazette.com/Opinion/Editorials/200911230024).



29 posted on 03/16/2012 5:16:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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Corporation of the President

ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION
of the
CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS
CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS.

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

STATE OF UTAH

COUNTY OF SALT LAKE

I, the undersigned, having been duly chosen and appointed President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, in conformity with the rites, regulations and discipline of said Church, being desirous of forming a corporation for the purpose of acquiring, holding and disposing of Church or religious society property, for the benefit of religion, for works of charity and for public worship, under and pursuant to the provisions of Chapter 3, Title 19, of the Compiled Laws of Utah, 1917, on "Churches and Religious Societies," and all acts amendatory thereof and supplementary thereto, for that purpose do hereby make and subscribe, in duplicate, the following

ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION

First: The name of this corporation shall be the CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS.

Second: The object of this corporation shall be to acquire, hold and dispose of such real and personal property as may be conveyed to or acquired by said corporation for the benefit of the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, a religious society, for the benefit of religion, for works of charity and for public worship. Such real and personal property may be situated, either within the State of Utah, or elsewhere, and this corporation shall have power, without any authority or authorization from the members of said Church or religious society, to grant, sell, convey, rent, mortgage, exchange, or otherwise dispose of any part or all of such property.

Third: The estimated value of the property of which I hold the legal title for the purpose aforesaid, at the time of making these Articles of Incorporation, is One Million, Five Hundred Thousand Dollars.

Fourth: The title of the person making these Articles of Incorporation is "PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS."

Fifth: The corporation seal shall contain the words, "Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints," and an impression thereof is hereto affixed.

[Seal] [Signed] Heber J. Grant
President of the Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter-day Saints.

STATE OF UTAH
SS:
COUNTY OF SALT LAKE

On this 26th day of November, 1923, before me, Arthur Winter, a Notary Public in and for said County, personally appeared HEBER J. GRANT, who is known to me to be the person whose name is subscribed to the foregoing instrument as President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and duly acknowledged to me that he executed the same as such President.

[Seal] [Signed] Arthur Winter
Notary Public
Residing at Salt Lake City, Utah.
My commission expires Dec. 1, 1923.


AMENDMENT TO

ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION
of the
CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS
CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS.

 

 

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
STATE OF UTAH ss.
COUNTY OF SALT LAKE

HEBER J. GRANT, being first duly sworn, deposes and says:

That he is now and for more than twenty years last past has been the duly chosen and appointed President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and as such President has been since on or about the 26th day of November, 1923, and now is, the legally constituted Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter=day Saints, a corporation sole; that under and pursuant to Section 18-7-5 R.S.U. 1933 he hereby amends Article "Fourth" of said Articles of Incorporation as now of record in the proper offices of this and other states, said article as amended to read as follows:

ARTICLE FOURTH

Fourth: The title of the person making these articles of incorporation is "President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." He and his successor in office shall be deemed and are hereby created a body politic and corporation sole with perpetual succession, having all the powers and rights and authority in these articles specified or provided for by law. But in the event of death or resignation from office of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or in the event of a vacancy in that office from any cause, the President or Acting President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of said Church, or one of the members of said Quorum thereunto designated by that Quorum, shall, pending the installation of a successor President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, be the corporation sole under these articles, and the laws pursuant to which they are made, and shall be and is authorized in his official capacity to execute in the name of the corporation all documents or other writings necessary to the carrying on of its purposes, business and objects, and to do all things in the name of the corporation which the original signer of the articles of incorporation might do; it being the purpose of these articles that there shall be no failure in succession in the office of such corporation sole.

[Signed] Heber J. Grant
President of the Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter-day Saints,
corporation sole.
[Seal]

Subscribed and sworn to before me this 18 day of June, 1940.
[the name of Notary Public not shown on copy of amendment]

(Original in State of Utah Archives, Salt Lake City, Utah)


ARTICLES OF AMENDMENT
TO THE

ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION
of the
CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS
CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS.


A UTAH CORPORATION SOLE

Pursuant to the provisions of Section 16-7-5 of the Utah Code Annotated 1953 (as amended) relating to amendments of articles of incorporation of corporations sole, the CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS, a Utah Corporation Sole, does hereby amend its Articles of Incorporation by adding an additional Paragraph V thereto as follows:

Upon the winding up and dissolution of this corporation, after paying or adequately providing for the debts and obligations of the corporation, the remaining assets shall be distributed to a nonprofit fund, foundation or corporation, which is organized and operated exclusively for charitable, educational, or religious and/or scientific purposes and which has established its tax-exempt status under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the undersigned has caused these presents to be executed this 19th day of November, 1973.

CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE
CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY
SAINTS, a Utah Corporation Sole

By: [signed] Harold B. Lee
Harold B. Lee, Corporation Sole

STATE OF UTAH ) ss:
County of Salt Lake )

HAROLD B. LEE, being first duly sworn, deposes and says: That he is now and ever since July 7, 1972, has been the duly chosen and appointed President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and, as such president, is now and ever since said date has been the legally constituted CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS, a Utah Corporation Sole; that the original Articles of Incorporation of said Corporation Sole were executed by Heber J. Grant, President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints; that he, Harold B. Lee, is the successor in office to the said Heber J. Grant; that he, Harold B. Lee, executed the foregoing Articles of Amendment as said Corporation Sole.

[signed] Harold B. Lee

SUBSCRIBED AND SWORN to before me this 19th day of November, 1973.

[signed] Wilford W Kirton, Jr
NOTARY PUBLIC
Residing at Salt Lake City, Utah
My commission expires:
2-3-77


Articles of Incorporation as amended:

ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION

First: The name of this corporation shall be the CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS.

Second: The object of this corporation shall be to acquire, hold and dispose of such real and personal property as may be conveyed to or acquired by said corporation for the benefit of the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, a religious society, for the benefit of religion, for works of charity and for public worship. Such real and personal property may be situated, either within the State of Utah, or elsewhere, and this corporation shall have power, without any authority or authorization from the members of said Church or religious society, to grant, sell, convey, rent, mortgage, exchange, or otherwise dispose of any part or all of such property.

Third: The estimated value of the property of which I hold the legal title for the purpose aforesaid, at the time of making these Articles of Incorporation, is One Million, Five Hundred Thousand Dollars.

Fourth: The title of the person making these articles of incorporation is "President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." He and his successor in office shall be deemed and are hereby created a body politic and corporation sole with perpetual succession, having all the powers and rights and authority in these articles specified or provided for by law. But in the event of death or resignation from office of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or in the event of a vacancy in that office from any cause, the President or Acting President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of said Church, or one of the members of said Quorum thereunto designated by that Quorum, shall, pending the installation of a successor President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, be the corporation sole under these articles, and the laws pursuant to which they are made, and shall be and is authorized in his official capacity to execute in the name of the corporation all documents or other writings necessary to the carrying on of its purposes, business and objects, and to do all things in the name of the corporation which the original signer of the articles of incorporation might do; it being the purpose of these articles that there shall be no failure in succession in the office of such corporation sole.

Fifth: Upon the winding up and dissolution of this corporation, after paying or adequately providing for the debts and obligations of the corporation, the remaining assets shall be distributed to a nonprofit fund, foundation or corporation, which is organized and operated exclusively for charitable, educational, or religious and/or scientific purposes and which has established its tex-exempt status under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code.

Sixth: The corporate seal shall contain the words, "Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints," and an impression thereof is hereto affixed.

30 posted on 03/16/2012 5:17:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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