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“National Right to Carry Reciprocity Act of 2012” introduced in U.S. Senate
http://www.nraila.org ^ | 03/13/2012 | NRA

Posted on 03/14/2012 6:22:21 AM PDT by ThinkingBuddha

Today, March 13, U.S. Senators Mark Begich (D-Alaska) and Joe Manchin (D-W.V.) introduced S. 2188, the “National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2012.” The bill is the Senate companion to H. R. 822, which was approved by the U. S. House last November by a vote of 272-154.

S. 2188, like H.R. 822, would allow any person with a valid state-issued concealed firearm permit to carry a concealed handgun in any other state that issues concealed firearm permits, or that does not prohibit the carrying of concealed firearms for lawful purposes. A state's laws governing where concealed handguns may be carried would apply within its borders.

Today 49 states either issue carry permits or otherwise authorize law-abiding people to carry firearms outside the home for self-defense. 41 states have fair “shall issue” permit systems that allow any law-abiding person to get a permit.

In contrast to dire predictions from anti-gun groups, Right-to-Carry laws have been enormously successful. Interstate reciprocity will serve as a fundamental protection of the right to self-defense by providing people with the ability to protect themselves not only in their home states, but anywhere they travel where carry concealed carry is legal.

Contrary to the false claims of some, these bills would not create federal gun registration or gun owner licensing, nor would they allow any federal agency to establish a federal standard for a carry permit or impose gun control restrictions of any kind.

These bills would have no effect on permitless carry laws, currently on the books in Arizona, Alaska, Wyoming and Vermont, that allow concealed carry without a permit. In addition, Vermont residents would be able to take advantage of S. 2188 and H.R. 822 by obtaining a permit from one of the many states that offer non-resident permits.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: comity; secondammendment
Please contact your senators.
1 posted on 03/14/2012 6:22:27 AM PDT by ThinkingBuddha
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To: ThinkingBuddha

WONDERFUL idea. NEVER pass the Senate.

Still, call your senator......


2 posted on 03/14/2012 6:31:08 AM PDT by Arlis (.)
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To: Arlis

I agree and will call my 2 idiot lib-dem senators’ offices (never get thru to them), but the corrupt, criminal US Senate will kill it.


3 posted on 03/14/2012 6:36:37 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'll "vote for an orange juice can", over Barry Obummer and another 4yrs of Hell, anyday!)
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To: Arlis
Still, call your senator......

Which one, Gillibrand or Schumer?

4 posted on 03/14/2012 6:39:07 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9
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To: ThinkingBuddha

The only authority Congress has in this matter is to permit or forbid CCW within the District of Columbia.

I travel to DC frequently, and I really, REALLY would like to exercise the right there, where it is much more likely to be needed.

CCW in a State implicates the police power, of which Congress has - none.


5 posted on 03/14/2012 6:42:43 AM PDT by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: ThinkingBuddha

“Mark Begich (D-Alaska) and Joe Manchin (D-W.V.)”

Don’t trust marx-o-crats. What else is going to end up in that bill?


6 posted on 03/14/2012 6:48:50 AM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: Arlis

Stupid idea!!!

Never give the federal government the ability to control anything...


7 posted on 03/14/2012 7:00:15 AM PDT by know-the-law
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To: ThinkingBuddha
Just a question here people.
Would this "Interstate Legislation" pertaining to "Firearms"
open the door to the "Interstate Commerce Over site".
As much as I do not believe it would. You know the LibTards will try.

8 posted on 03/14/2012 8:12:09 AM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: know-the-law

Excellent point.....agree.....


9 posted on 03/14/2012 8:32:13 AM PDT by Arlis (.)
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To: Falcon4.0

There are already many many federal firearms regulations on the books thanks to ‘interstate commerce’. This would not change that either way.


10 posted on 03/14/2012 8:44:33 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: NY.SS-Bar9; Arlis; ThinkingBuddha; cyborg; Clemenza; Cacique; NYCVirago; The Mayor; Darksheare; ...
Still, call your senator......

"Which one, Gillibrand or Schumer?"

Please contact your U.S. Senators today and urge them to cosponsor S. 2188. You can call your U.S. Senators at 202-224-3121 or send them an email by clicking here.

NY.SS-Bar9, I know what you mean. I was born in, and I'm still living in NYC. Everyone in NY, at least those old enough to be knowledgeable about current affairs, knows Chuck U is hopeless. Now, I don't have much hope for Gillibrand either, but remember that she got into the Senate with at least an 'A' rating from the NRA, and that election was to fill the remainder of Hillary's term. Gillibrand is up again this November.

Now, forget the paticulars of this bill. Look at it from the right of self defense and the general election this November. Ask yourself, why are two rats sponsoring this bill? It's a FReebie for a number of reasons. Being rats, it bolster's their dubious credibility on the Second Amendment. It's unlikely to get sixty votes in the Senate, and if it does, Obama will likely veto it, unless it's passed as an amendment to a "must pass" bill like they did with the Coburn Amendment which allows concealed carry in national parks, etc.

Why am I pinging everyone on my lists? This election is not just about Obama and his hostility to the Second Amendment. It's about U.S. Senators Mark Begich (D-Alaska) and Joe Manchin (D-WV). How come these phonies are mum about Fast and Furious and similar operations in other states?

Due to the retirements of Akaka, Bingaman, Conrad, Kohl, Lieberman, Ben Nelson and Webb, the left will be defending seven open seats in the Senate, and the odds of retaking it are best in seats without incumbents.

The rats are trying to make social issues a big deal in November. If you know any independnt voters or may be able to recruit and register new voters, don't forget the rats' overall record on the right to self defense and the Second Amendment.

FReepmail me if you want on or off my New York ping list.

11 posted on 03/21/2012 12:11:40 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: dynachrome

Never take candy from a democrat..... something is amiss IMO !

Stay safe !


12 posted on 03/21/2012 12:27:13 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: neverdem

Gillibrand = Chuck Schumer sockpuppet.

She went straight from an “A” to an “F”

She might give lip service to the second amendment between now and November, but she is just another scummy politician with no core belief other than keeping her job.


13 posted on 03/21/2012 12:35:33 PM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9
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To: neverdem

I think that having this is a BAD idea and i’ll tell you why. If we give them the ability to make carry national. Then they can say that they have a national tie to the second amendment.

The only tie that the federal government should have is the the negative right .. not to infringe upon our right to keep and bear arms.

leave everything else up to the individual states.

If they get their hands on anything to do with guns then it opens up a whole new avenue for them to attack who can carry and who can not. I am opposed to this whole heartedly.

Seriously think about supporting this before you do. There will be consequences if it passes. They will then decide who gets to carry and who does not.


14 posted on 03/21/2012 1:16:01 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: neverdem; maikeru; Dr. Marten; Eric in the Ozarks; Al Gator; snowsislander; sushiman; ...
E-mail in support of S2188 sent to Lieberman and Blumenthal! (fwiw) Thanks for the heads up!

Pinging the Japan and CT Freeper lists - see Neverdem's easy link in post #11 to contact YOUR senators in support of S2188.


15 posted on 03/21/2012 2:03:36 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Munz

bttt


16 posted on 03/21/2012 2:34:40 PM PDT by TEXOKIE
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To: ThinkingBuddha
No, S. 2213, the Thune-Vitter bill, is almost certainly a better bill on national reciprocity than 2188. Here's GOA's take on this:

Senators Thune and Vitter Introduce Reciprocity Bill with more than 25 Cosponsors

The Thune-Vitter bill provides national recognition for concealed carry permit holders (who have obtained one from their home states), but it also recognizes the right to carry for residents of Constitutional Carry states (where no permit is required).

This is a huge win for gun owners!  Constitutional Carry is currently the law in five states, and more than a dozen states have legislation to move in that direction. 

A competing bill, S. 2188, offers reciprocity ONLY for permit holders -- and thus it would prevent many gun owners, who can legally carry in their home states, from carrying firearms when they travel out-of-state.  This compromise bill, sponsored by anti-gun Senate Democrats Mark Begich (AK), Joe Manchin (WV) and Max Baucus (MT), would deal a severe blow to the momentum we have in passing Constitutional Carry at the state level.

It is crucial that Senators support the Constitutional Carry-friendly bill, and to oppose any efforts to weaken the Thune-Vitter legislation.

ACTION:  Contact your Senators right away.  Thank those who have sponsored S. 2213.  If your Senators have not yet cosponsored, please urge them to do so … and to stay off of the Begich-Manchin bill. 

(From http://capwiz.com/gunowners/issues/alert/?alertid=61113201.)

I am beginning to think that the NRA is trying to kill Constitutional Carry.

17 posted on 03/21/2012 2:40:02 PM PDT by snowsislander (Gingrich 2012.)
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To: ThinkingBuddha

Mine won’t support it. I live in NY. So, yeah


18 posted on 03/21/2012 3:20:07 PM PDT by wastedyears (Signature for sale.)
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To: dynachrome

The 1986 FOPA with the Hughes Amendment comes to mind. Big mistake by Reagan in my opinion.


19 posted on 03/21/2012 4:02:06 PM PDT by wastedyears (Signature for sale.)
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To: wastedyears

I trust nothing that comes out of the cesspool of DC.


20 posted on 03/21/2012 4:04:59 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: dynachrome

I don’t trust them either.


21 posted on 03/21/2012 4:57:40 PM PDT by wastedyears (Signature for sale.)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


22 posted on 03/21/2012 8:15:51 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Jim Noble

“CCW in a State implicates the police power, of which Congress has - none.”

Regrettably, I agree.


23 posted on 03/21/2012 10:30:41 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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