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Why did Santorum's totals in MS and AL differ from the last polls which showed him in 3rd place?
March 14, 2012 | Ralph Mitchell

Posted on 03/14/2012 4:30:33 PM PDT by mitchell001

Did open voting which allows Democrats and Independents to vote in the GOP primary account for difference in Santorum's victory totals in MS and AL over the last polls which showed him in 3rd place? In other words, the MS and AL polls only polled likely GOP voters and the real voter population included Democrats and Independents. Also, did the Democrats sway the GOP primary results? Did Santorum robo call Democrats to vote for him?


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To: mitchell001

If you had half a brain you will remember Romney was predicted to win Mississippi.

Results are known to differ from the poling. They are not exacts, but they were close.


41 posted on 03/14/2012 5:35:45 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Christie at the beach

Don’t blame Newt’s losses on crossovers. He isn’t showing an ability to win anywhere.

24/7 excuses for Newt hotline. LOL


42 posted on 03/14/2012 5:39:26 PM PDT by dforest
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To: ptsal

If Dems want to vote for the GOP this time, more power to them.

Reagan sure didn’t complain.


43 posted on 03/14/2012 5:41:15 PM PDT by dforest
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To: mitchell001

The exit polls shown on Drudge as late as 6PM,and the Monday poll cited on FR showing RS losing BOTH states by about 10% were PHONY, trying to bump up the numbers for one of the others. Milt, what do YOU know about this? Bob


44 posted on 03/14/2012 5:46:05 PM PDT by alstewartfan ( 27 of 36 Romney judicial appointments were DEMOCRATS!!!!!)
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To: dforest

Drudge called Ms. (AND Al. earlier) for Romney before the polls closed for the 3rd place finisher in both states.


45 posted on 03/14/2012 5:51:01 PM PDT by alstewartfan ( 27 of 36 Romney judicial appointments were DEMOCRATS!!!!!)
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To: deport
Yes I do believe in those rights. What is done is effecting all of us and who is chosen as the best nominee, cross over voters certainly have not done me justice in what they are doing now. I don't cross over and tamper with theirs.

To say we will need them in NOV., those that are voting now are not going to vote for ours in the general, they are only playing havoc in this election.

We have a difference of opinion I can see, but there is no way I get the government I deserve, maybe you do.

46 posted on 03/14/2012 5:54:32 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: dforest

See that I am in your head...........


47 posted on 03/14/2012 6:04:21 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: alstewartfan

I kind of doubt many people that voted down there pay a lot of attention to Drudge before voting. People don’t here anymore.

In a way, Romney did win last night. Drudge may have been being a smartass. He does that at times.

You know, first the talk around here was that all the dem crossovers are going to vote for Mitt because he can’t win and they know it.

People need to make up their minds. I myself think any of them could beat that slimy slug in the WH if they run a good campaign.


48 posted on 03/14/2012 6:05:52 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Christie at the beach

LOL


49 posted on 03/14/2012 6:08:50 PM PDT by dforest
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To: annieokie

damn, I hope you’re right...this country is at stake..


50 posted on 03/14/2012 6:09:55 PM PDT by sternup
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To: JediJones

You are so green with envy which is a sin by the way. President Santorum will be the first social conservative that we have. Since we never had one before, it could be the best thing this country could ever have. We need to get back to being a moral country and the only one to do this is a President Santorum. God Bless Rick Santorum and his incredible family.


51 posted on 03/14/2012 6:18:45 PM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: annieokie

Yep, and Santorum called them out. Trust me, NEWT has a plan and I trust NEWT to know how to handle all this.

Newt might have the greatest plans on Earth. The only thing he needs are votes. That is his problem. He can’t get people to vote for him in state after state. If he wants to be credible, he needs to change this. I tried to tell this to people before AL and MS but I was blasted saying I didn’t know anything. Well I am here again saying the same thing before PR and IL. Any changes for Newt????


52 posted on 03/14/2012 6:21:35 PM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: annieokie

We have a difference of opinion I can see, but there is no way I get the government I deserve, maybe you do.


Not meaning to start an argument just only wanting to get your feeling on mandates.

I personal feel I have more government than I deserve or want. I personally would prefer more individual freedom and less mandates from the gov’t, elites, organizations, etc.

Anyway not trying to be argumentive. Take care and have a nice evening.


53 posted on 03/14/2012 7:21:49 PM PDT by deport (..............God Bless Texas............)
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To: Longbow1969

“More likely the polls and even exit polls were simply incorrect and under representing Rick’s support. Santorum is made fun of in the media as a wacky, Catholic fundamentalist nut ...”

I think this is correct. Many of his supporters are not contentious, combative people, so they skipped the pre-vote drama. I saw a lot of grass roots support for both Santorum and Gingrich on election day proper in the Jackson area. There was a little support for Paul about 2 months ago, and whoever supported Bishop Willard was too ashamed to show it at any stage.


54 posted on 03/14/2012 7:57:32 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I think we ought to listen to Alinsky." - Governor G. Romney, father of Bishop Willard M. Romney.)
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To: Gene Eric

“No #ing way? These two states were open?”

I can’t speak for Alabama but Mississippi most certainly is. I saw one (1) person vote in the Democrat primary in the time I was at the poll, an older black lady. I saw several young black men vote in the Republican primary. I suppose they are Thomas Sowell or Alan Keyes fans . . .


55 posted on 03/14/2012 8:04:28 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I think we ought to listen to Alinsky." - Governor G. Romney, father of Bishop Willard M. Romney.)
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To: mitchell001

I voted for Newt in GA. One thing I STILL like about Santorum, and in spite of his “warts...but they ALL have some...is his grassroots campaign strategy. This is the old way. People went door to door, or county to county, talked to people, shook hands, held babies, took pictures, etc. It lets the community know that the candidates see each voter as an individual, not taking anything for granted. Romney acts as if he is owed the nomination. Newt is Newt, but when he’s on, he’s awesome. But, I seriously think that he hurt himself when he attacked Romney and was too stubborn to see that the only person he was hurting was himself. That is Newt’s problem. He is stubborn. I agree with Michele Malkin and David Limbaugh, that although Rick Santorum is not my perfect candidate, he is the best man standing and still conservative. I’d love to see Newt pull this out, and I do hope, as I posted the other day, that both Santorum and Newt stay in, taking enough voted away from Romney to have a brokered convention. I personally would love to see Palin nominated to run against Obama. She is more than capable of taking him on and turning him into mincemeat. Why do you think he (Obama) has already started attacking her? He surely thinks it is possible.


56 posted on 03/14/2012 8:20:58 PM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: mitchell001

Answers: No. No. No. No.

Polling firms don’t eliminate people in the “wrong” party when they poll. They ask if the person is planning to vote in the primary, and if so, they count their pick.

For your conspiracy to be rational, the conspirists, who according to the conspiracy WANT to make it look like Santorum has support, would have had to have LIED to pollsters about voting in the primary, thus suppressing Santorum’s poll numbers, and then showed up to vote to make him win.

If they were trying to help Santorum, they would have told pollsters they were voting for Santorum.

I doubt that many democrats are motivated enough to show up to vote just to mess up our primary. After all, REPUBLICANS are motivated enough to show up to vote.


57 posted on 03/14/2012 8:21:13 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: imemyself

I don’t know which state you were in. And I’m trying to figure out how you knew which names were democrat, and which were republican.

If they were in different lists, doesn’t that mean they were voting in the democrat primary, not the republican primary?

Or are you claiming that in your state, democrats show up, sign in to a “democrat” voting list, and then vote in the republican primary?

In my state, there’s one list of voters, and if there are two primaries, you tell them which primary, and THAT is the list they put you on, democrat or republican.


58 posted on 03/14/2012 8:27:08 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: mitchell001
Polls don't always get it right, usually in turnout measurement. Even exit polls.

Right Michigan dissected and picked apart exit poll claims about crossovers in Michigan.

59 posted on 03/14/2012 8:29:20 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: mitchell001

It may have been the result of low turnout in the suburban counties where Romney needed to roll-up large raw vote totals to overcome his weakness in the rural counties.


60 posted on 03/14/2012 8:30:19 PM PDT by writmeister
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