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Obama's Phony Numbers Adding Up
Townhall.com ^ | March 15, 2012 | John Ransom

Posted on 03/15/2012 3:53:21 AM PDT by Kaslin

With a number like this, I could run for president and beat Obama in November. And so could you.

I say that because I’m assuming that neither Mitt Romney nor Ron Paul is actually reading this article.

The numbers I’m referring to aren’t poll numbers, or employment numbers, or GDP growth, or gas prices.

Nope.

In a wholly predictable development, it turns out the cost for Obamacare will end up being twice the original price that the Democrats said.

Fancy Nancy was right: They did have to pass Obamacare for liberals to find out what was in it. But hey, this is what happens when you pass a bill you haven’t even read yet.

The Congressional Budget Office now forecasts “a gross cost to the federal government of $1,762 billion,” to implement Obamacare through year 2022 and that “those provisions will increase deficits by $1,083 billion.”

The cost is nearly twice- and counting- the $900 billion that was advertised by Democrats at the time the bill passed, just as Republicans predicted.

Liberal “wonk” Ezra Klein, of the math-impaired Washington Post, still scolded Republican Rep. Eric Cantor last year for pointing out this obvious fact: Democrats cooked the books to make Obamacare appear as a deficit reduction measure.

“But as a matter of arithmetic,” wrote Klein in January of 2011, “using the math that Congress always uses, the bill saves money. It cuts enough spending and raises enough taxes to more than pay for itself, both in the first 10 years and in the second 10 years.”

Turns out the “wonk” was w-w-w-wrong.

Perhaps that’s because Klein has been doing phony Washington math- “math that Congress always uses”- for too long. Only in Washington can you tax something and then say it pays for itself.

Too bad it doesn’t even “pay for itself” under Klein’s phony math.

In the movie The Program head football coach Sam Winters taunts reporters who seem to have problems doing math with “I know you guys can't write, but I thought you could at least count.”

Well, I always knew that The Post couldn’t write- at least not truthfully. But I’ve also known that they couldn’t do math- or global climate modeling, or fact-checking.

Still you have to give the folks from the Obama administration credit for consistency at least. Whether it’s the stimulus, the Chevy Volt, TARP, unemployment, Solyndra, gas prices, the deficit- math just never works out for them.

Let’s face it, if these guys were students, we’d be testing them for some sort of number-related learning disability.        

It’s that bad.

As the Washington Examiner’s Philip Klein (no relation) reports: “[B]y 2022, according to the CBO, 3 million fewer people will have health insurance through their employer, while 17 million Americans will be added to Medicaid and 22 million will be getting coverage through government-run exchanges.”

And-they-call-it-reform.

While the CBO predicts that the cost of Obamacare will be $48 billion less than they predicted last year, they get to that math by upping the amount they fine employers and individuals for violating the provisions of Obamacare.

Some government, huh?

This is like fining people for breathing. If they could just stick smart meters on all of us, they could tax us for a bunch of non-approved activities like heterosexual sex, going to church, clinging to guns. 

In fact, while some may laugh at those examples as outrageous parody, the contraception-in-the-church flap isn’t parody at all. It’s an attempt by the government to make up for their failed math. The federal government can only be involved in our lives, our health and our religion in a way never dreamed of until recently by getting someone to pay for someone else’s “right” to something the rest of us have to go to work for.

Obamacare- and Bankcare, Real Estatecare, Unioncare, Government Employeecare, Greencare- will only stand if we are all stuffed into the same phony system with the same phony benefits that promise to pay for themselves with the same phony math.

Religion may or may not be the enemy to Obama, but it certainly stands in the way of the Obamacare scheme.

Which bring us back to the number that allows anyone not named Mitt or Paul or Ringo to beat Obama come November.  

For the fourth week in a row, churches led us in prayer for the restoration of religious liberty in America.

America. Not Russia, Hilter’s Germany, Iran. America.   

“There have been many threats to religious freedom over the decades and years, but these often came from without,” writes Cardinal Timothy Dolan, president of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops regarding the mandate provisions of Obamacare. “This one sadly comes from within.”

And as an increasing number of people are beginning to realize, it’s as easy for the government to trample on one right as it is another.

Any number that comes to more than none is an infamous number and should be defeated by all of us, not just one.


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1 posted on 03/15/2012 3:53:22 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

“In a wholly predictable development, it turns out the cost for Obamacare will end up being twice the original price that the Democrats said.”

A quick glance at RomneyCare would reveal that those proposing these things always lowball their estimates.


2 posted on 03/15/2012 3:57:29 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Kaslin

The Sheeple are not concerned. It is all just a lot of mishmash to them.
Their only interest will be the cost of gas, Mcdonalds, and
best actor and actress of the year.
They have been told by PMSNBC that The Obumbo is the messiah
and that is just fine with them.


3 posted on 03/15/2012 4:05:01 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Kaslin

Those numbers are trillions, not billions. Government schools strike again.


4 posted on 03/15/2012 4:06:38 AM PDT by bytesmith
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To: Jack Hammer

Hey, they are just buying their votes at our expense. They do not care.


5 posted on 03/15/2012 4:07:40 AM PDT by DooDahhhh (ma)
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To: Kaslin
And-they-call-it-reform.

What's wrong with that?

It IS reform. That's why the fight was so bitter.

They have destroyed the US medical and hospital services system. Sure, the buildings are still standing, and the workers still show up.

But everything that we rely on is gone, or going.

After the destruction is complete, the state will re-form everything in a Marxist paradigm.

That's the MEANING of "reform". So why the objection?

6 posted on 03/15/2012 4:09:38 AM PDT by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: Kaslin

The cost of Medicare is a good place to begin. At its start, in 1966, Medicare cost $3 billion. The House Ways and Means Committee estimated that Medicare would cost only about $ 12 billion by 1990 (a figure that included an allowance for inflation). This was a supposedly “conservative” estimate. But in 1990 Medicare actually cost $107 billion.

http://reason.com/archives/1993/01/01/the-medicare-monster

Given the fact that Congressional mendacity is more developed now than in 1966..we can definitely expect several orders of magnitude worse...


7 posted on 03/15/2012 4:23:47 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: bytesmith

The numbers as written are correct........


8 posted on 03/15/2012 4:23:48 AM PDT by astounded (Barack Obama is a clear and present danger to the USA)
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To: Kaslin
Obama is simply bankrupting the US. In 2007, five years ago, the ANNUAL US deficit was $161 billion. In February, 2012 the MONTHLY US deficit was $229 billion. That projects to almost $3 TRILLION annual deficit. Almost 20 times the deficit of five years ago.

Obama has taken the deficit parabolic. Increased taxes will not cover this debt. There is only one way out.

9 posted on 03/15/2012 4:35:11 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Obama care has to go in it’s entirety.

Along with the Dipstick himself.

His airplane flights have doubled also.


10 posted on 03/15/2012 4:47:14 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: mo

Precisely!

So with history as our guide, we choose to ignore it.

Remember in recent memory, when Republicans were accused of letting medicare or Social Security die on the vine? I can’t remember which one, but it really doesn’t matter it is two peas in a pod. The howls of pain and anguish from dems could be heard world wide.

The dems steal a half trillion dollars to help “pay” for Obama care and not a peep.

I call hypocrisy, for all the good it will do.


11 posted on 03/15/2012 4:50:10 AM PDT by wita
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To: DooDahhhh
"Hey, they are just buying their votes at our expense. They do not care."

Sadly true. To the left, and Obama in particular, money is something that can be created endlessly by government out of the air. There is no need to ever worry about things like deficits. Similarly, the left believes that the economy is the government and the more people in public sector jobs, the better and more stimulative to the economy. Meanwhile, the GOP-e is quiescent and unable or unwilling to attack Obamacare with these numbers or, more than prefunctionarily, with anything else, apparently.

12 posted on 03/15/2012 4:50:23 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Former Proud Canadian

There is only one way out.

Drill baby drill!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


13 posted on 03/15/2012 4:52:10 AM PDT by wita
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To: Kaslin

Insights for Christians taken from Psalms 53: New King James Version.

...”They are corrupt, and have done abominable iniquity; There is none who does good.”
...”God looks down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there are any who understand, who seek God. Every one of them has turned aside; They have together become corrupt;”...
...”Have the workers of iniquity no knowledge, who eat up my people as they eat bread, and do not call upon God?”...
...”For God has scattered the bones of him who encamps against you; You have put them to shame, because God has despised them.”...

Just remember. The world may be totally corrupt and full of mortal men and women who are trying to be God. They will not succeed for the true Creator will not tolerate the abuse of His people for long.


14 posted on 03/15/2012 4:54:21 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: Jack Hammer
it turns out the cost for Obamacare will end up being twice the original price that the Democrats said.”

That's jsut for starters.

In 1967, the House Ways and Means Committee predicted that the new Medicare program, launched the previous year, would cost about $12 billion in 1990. Actual Medicare spending in 1990 was $110 billion—off by nearly a factor of 10.

In 1987, Congress estimated that Medicaid’s disproportionate share hospital (DSH) payments—which states use to provide relief to hospitals that serve especially large numbers of Medicaid and uninsured patients—would cost less than $1 billion in 1992. The actual cost that year was a staggering $17 billion. Among other things, federal lawmakers had failed to detect loopholes in the legislation that enabled states to draw significantly more money from the federal treasury than they would otherwise have been entitled to claim under the program’s traditional 50-50 funding scheme.

Check out the Heritage foundation article. Health Care Reform Cost Estimates: What is the Track Record? from August, 2009.

15 posted on 03/15/2012 5:02:10 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Near term Obamacare 'Unit")
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To: wita

Actually, that might work too. I get stuck in the supposed inevitability of Obama’s re-election.


16 posted on 03/15/2012 5:09:41 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

...or perhaps more to the point right this instant.

Build the damn pipeline.


17 posted on 03/15/2012 5:30:57 AM PDT by wita
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To: wita
Pipeline? Pipeline?

You don't need 650,000 B/D of secure oil and the refining and construction jobs that go with it. Chu and Obama have said so, they both have Nobel prizes and you and I don't, so they must be a lot smarter than us.

Check my tagline for the answer.

18 posted on 03/15/2012 5:56:28 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Nobel prizes. Mom always said if you can’t say anything nice...

PS, I knew the answer.


19 posted on 03/15/2012 6:20:19 AM PDT by wita
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To: Kaslin
It was going to break the already broken bank with the original figures lies they put out - now they're just kicking a dead horse.
20 posted on 03/15/2012 6:28:39 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: jazzlite

I urge everyone to pray for 0bama, per Psalm 109:8 :)


21 posted on 03/15/2012 6:35:05 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front!)
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To: mkjessup

Done!


22 posted on 03/15/2012 6:56:12 AM PDT by DooDahhhh (ma)
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To: Kaslin

Almost fifty percent of the people are not paying taxes. They don’t care how much their “free stuff” costs.

The people who will put Obama over the top are the big business types. They don’t care how much it costs, either, as long government regulations suppress any potential competition.


23 posted on 03/15/2012 7:06:52 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: astounded

Good job. 1000 billion is a trillion. Duh.


24 posted on 03/15/2012 4:55:38 PM PDT by bytesmith
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To: Kaslin

Obama’s Phony Numbers Adding Up

Yeah... and the sum is a negative number.


25 posted on 03/15/2012 5:49:26 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: bytesmith

I can see how you could say what you did. The commas are hard to discern from decimal points on the screen; I know because I thought the same thing until I looked closer.


26 posted on 03/16/2012 11:04:16 AM PDT by astounded (Barack Obama is a clear and present danger to the USA)
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