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Newt Gingrich Says Illinois Primary ‘Largely Will Be Romney, Santorum’ ["Reset This Whole Race"?]
ABCNews ^ | March 15, 2012

Posted on 03/15/2012 8:47:45 PM PDT by Steelfish

Mar 15, 2012 Newt Gingrich Says Illinois Primary ‘Largely Will Be Romney, Santorum’

ELGIN, Ill.–After two days of campaigning in Illinois, Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich told reporters that he believes the race in Illinois “largely will be Romney and Santorum.”

A poll last week from the Chicago Tribune/WGN-TV, showed Gingrich at 12 percent support in the state, while Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum were neck and neck, with Romney at 35 percent and Santorum at 31 percent.

Illinois congressman and former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert, who endorsed Romney for president, told reporters on a fly-around of the state campaigning for Romney Thursday that while he still considered Gingrich a friend he did not support his candidacy for president. “You’ll find that a lot of people who worked with Newt Gingrich over those years aren’t supporting Newt Gingrich. This guy is all over the place. You can’t trust him. There’s always a doubt out there about where this guy’s going to go,” Hastert said.

When asked if Gingrich would have wanted Hastert’s support in the state, Gingrich told reporters, “That would have been fine.”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: newt; newt2012
Newt says:

“I’m staying in the race to see if I can’t in the second half of the race-Louisiana is sort of halftime. I want to see if we can’t reset this whole race around the idea of really big ideas and really big solutions and insist that the American people have a chance to vote for a dramatically better future.”

1 posted on 03/15/2012 8:47:48 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish
Hasert says Newt "is a friend", but "you can't trust him".

Some friend you are, Denny.

These primaries are scaring the snakes out of the grass for us all to see.

2 posted on 03/15/2012 8:53:31 PM PDT by Kennard
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To: Steelfish
A poll last week from the Chicago Tribune/WGN-TV, showed Gingrich at 12 percent support in the state, while Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum were neck and neck, with Romney at 35 percent and Santorum at 31 percent.

So now Newt is going to give IL to Romney. Gotta love it.

3 posted on 03/15/2012 8:54:36 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: Steelfish

I am getting dramatically and fundamentally tired of hearing about “big ideas and big solutions”. Time to exit right, Newt.


4 posted on 03/15/2012 8:54:51 PM PDT by Mountain Mary ("This is OUR country and WE will decide"... Mark Levin)
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To: Steelfish

Maybe that’s a not-so-subtle way of telling Newt to make a deal with Santorum or drop out altogether. Maybe not but it sounds that way to me.


5 posted on 03/15/2012 8:56:02 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Stop feeding the beast; spend money only with those who support traditional American values.)
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To: Steelfish
The more the insiders talk, the more I like Newt.

Denny, Mr. political correct that lost...

6 posted on 03/15/2012 8:56:15 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: Steelfish

Big ideas should buy a hint, he lost. Southern strategy with 2 and 1/2 states, that is so funny.


7 posted on 03/15/2012 9:07:15 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Steelfish

Hastert is a Tom DeLay crony who Gingrich fought on the George H. W. Bush “Read My Lips” tax increase. Hastert was for it. Newt was against it.


8 posted on 03/15/2012 9:07:38 PM PDT by Josh Painter ("We intend to change Washington, not accomodate it." - Newt Gingrich)
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To: Mountain Mary; Lazlo in PA; Yaelle; DoughtyOne; Steelers6; skeeter; Elvina; AmericanInTokyo; ...

You nailed it. His quitting the race is long overdue. Internal polls show that 57% of Newt’s vote would migrate to Santorum if he should quit. Without Newt in Arkansas, Santorum chalked up 51% of the vote. At this point, Newt is aiding and abetting a Romney nomination. Time for Newt’s ardent followers to open their minds and ears to what is occurring and decamp him.

Newt needs to give a rest to his “big ideas” of permanent moon-based colonies within eight years and $2.50 gas/gallon within two years regardless of world markets or geopolitical conditions.


9 posted on 03/15/2012 9:07:46 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Mountain Mary

Cant we make them all exit, including Obama?


10 posted on 03/15/2012 9:12:46 PM PDT by mylife
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To: Steelfish

I dunno- maybe Newt’s advice in opening a bar to high school students this morning might help him out?


11 posted on 03/15/2012 9:12:58 PM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: Kennard

“Hasert says Newt “is a friend”, but “you can’t trust him”.”

This is true. The Republicans in the House never new what Newt was going to do next; balance the budget 4 years in a row, reform welfare, etc. While with Hasert as Speaker we could “trust” him to do nothing conservative at all.

I think sometimes you can judge a man by his enemies.


12 posted on 03/15/2012 9:13:28 PM PDT by Bizhvywt
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To: Steelfish
he still considered Gingrich a friend he did not support his candidacy for president. “You’ll find that a lot of people who worked with Newt Gingrich over those years aren’t supporting Newt Gingrich. This guy is all over the place. You can’t trust him.

With friends like that...
13 posted on 03/15/2012 9:16:19 PM PDT by Antoninus (The less virtuous a people, the greater its need for laws.)
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To: Steelfish

Is there any point to discussing Newt in this thing anymore? He is openly ceding IL to the two frontrunners, yet acts like he is going to be a factor somehow down the road. What type of strained logic is that?

You are either in this Primary to fight like hell for what you believe in and win or you are just wasting everyone’s time.


14 posted on 03/15/2012 9:19:24 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Steelfish

Heck, newt is all over the place and can’t be trusted as a candidate!

At least we find out this way and not with him as a president whom all of us would regret having supported.


15 posted on 03/15/2012 9:23:31 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Steelfish
You just wait...Newt is going to kick butt in the south!

Oh...wait...

16 posted on 03/15/2012 9:38:26 PM PDT by South40 (Mitt is full of Shtt)
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To: Steelfish
Internal polls show that 57% of Newt’s vote would migrate to Santorum if he should quit.

And then Romney would get 42% of Newt's votes, and enough delegates to win before the convention. Is that what you want?

Newt needs to stay in the race to prevent a Romney nomination, just like he already said.

17 posted on 03/15/2012 9:39:11 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: Kenny
Four points is hardly "neck and neck" particularly since Senator Sanctimonious couldn't get all his paperwork sorted meaning he can't actually capture every delegate he could've won.
18 posted on 03/15/2012 9:45:56 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Santorum: 18-point loss, voted for Sotomayor, proposed $550M on top of $900M Amtrak budget...)
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To: Lazlo in PA

since he is conceding ILL, why is he campaigning there instead of MO and LA?

Or come to CT and keep MITT below the 50% threshold.


19 posted on 03/15/2012 10:18:55 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and I will not go to Illinois to campaign against MITT.)
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To: Steelfish

I am really shok that nobody got their name of the ballot for May primaries ... an alternative to MITT like Daniels.

If ROMNY fail, they do not give RICK nomination. They end up giving to somebody that never run. If somebody could run, he has more credible by win in Californie and Montanie and Jersie.


20 posted on 03/15/2012 10:24:33 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and I will not go to Illinois to campaign against MITT.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Excellent point. If Newt really wants to give Milt the shaft, there are some strategic places to make a real impact on him.


21 posted on 03/15/2012 10:28:38 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: newzjunkey

Illinois delegates... You vite twice, the popular vote and for delegate and alternates.

To get them lined up you have to start in September for the December filing....Where was Santorum in polling and money at that time ?

What Rick might be able to do is where there are a duplicate number of delegates on a cadidate slate get them to pledge to you and support those delegates. I don’t know who his Illinois campaign manager is, but that is one option they could use.


22 posted on 03/15/2012 10:32:10 PM PDT by mosesdapoet ("The best way to punish a country is let professors run it. Fredrick the Great p/p)
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To: meadsjn
"Internal polls show that 57% of Newt’s vote would migrate to Santorum if he should quit....And then Romney would get 42% of Newt's votes..."

Not quite. If the Newt supporters on FR are any reflection, about half of them won't vote at all if Newt drops out, with a large percentage of the remainder writing in Sarah Palin.

23 posted on 03/15/2012 10:34:45 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Kennard

I trust Newt more than I trust Romney. This guy can’t see the forest for the trees.


24 posted on 03/15/2012 10:42:59 PM PDT by Catsrus
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To: Joe 6-pack

Santorum never gets any flak. Romney never gets any flak.

Newt has it up and all over from every whichaway, BECAUSE HE IS TARGETING THE ENEMY.


25 posted on 03/15/2012 10:50:45 PM PDT by txhurl (Thank you, Andrew Breitbart. In your untimely passing, you have exposed these people one last time.)
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To: txhurl

In complete agreement with you.The enemy has had him surrounded for quite a while but he doesn’t give up.Go NEWT.


26 posted on 03/15/2012 10:55:39 PM PDT by nurse-rn
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To: Steelfish

One could question why, if the race was fundamentally between Santorum and Romney, Gingrich opted to spend two days in Illinois. Given that Gingrich hasn’t admitted he’s a non-factor in Illinois, perhaps this should be a signal to Gingrich supporters in the state.


27 posted on 03/15/2012 11:22:36 PM PDT by Keyes2000mt
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To: Steelfish
"Newt needs to give a rest to his “big ideas” of permanent moon-based colonies within eight years . . ."

I guess he does. There are too many like you who slept through their history class when it covered the last effort to walk on the moon. Such things as the microchip, the CAT scanner, Satellite television, kidney dialysis, cordless power tools, water purification technology--are you falling asleep yet? The spin-offs from the last moon project brought a wealth to our nation that people who don't know their history would see Newt's call to go to the moon as so much lunacy.

If we don't get up there, we will get another lesson of history when China sets up a mammoth laser weapon which can zap out our entire satellite inventory and anything we fly in the air. So, a moon base is a national security matter that should not be left for amateurs.

http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=2317

28 posted on 03/15/2012 11:38:39 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: Steelfish
We thought by hearing from the Newt supporters that Newt is a fighter, and never, never , never give up like Winston Churchill.... so what gives ?
Now he is conceding IL ?
What happen to that Churchillan never give up fighting spirit that the Newt supporters told us that Newt had ?
29 posted on 03/16/2012 12:46:05 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Not quite. If the Newt supporters on FR are any reflection, about half of them won't vote at all if Newt drops out, with a large percentage of the remainder writing in Sarah Palin.

We're talking about the Primary Elections, and how to keep Romney from getting the nomination.

If Newt drops out, Romney will super-blast Santorum, and Santorum will wilt and drop out within weeks, leaving Romney uncontested. That is unacceptable.

30 posted on 03/16/2012 12:58:30 AM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Not quite. If the Newt supporters on FR are any reflection, about half of them won't vote at all if Newt drops out, with a large percentage of the remainder writing in Sarah Palin.



That is correct, for me, my FRiend... Newt was the last line of defense.. If he is gone, there is nothing left but to go back to our strongest conservative and hope for the best.

I will NEVER vote rino/moderate again.. will NEVER vote for any union supporter, and NEVER vote for any socialist. Whatever the outcome, my hands are clean.
31 posted on 03/16/2012 3:37:49 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: American Constitutionalist; onyx; Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator
We thought by hearing from the Newt supporters that Newt is a fighter, and never, never , never give up like Winston Churchill.... so what gives ? Now he is conceding IL ? What happen to that Churchillan never give up fighting spirit that the Newt supporters told us that Newt had ?










Hypocrite/Troll


Very telling, eh?
32 posted on 03/16/2012 4:16:41 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: newzjunke
particularly since Senator Sanctimonious couldn't get all his paperwork sorted meaning he can't actually capture every delegate he could've won.

Wrong. He's on the ballot for all delegates in Illinois.

How Romney Gave Rick Santorum An Opening In Illinois

33 posted on 03/16/2012 7:25:24 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: Steelfish

I really like Newt, but it’s time to drop out.

I’d much, MUCH rather have Santorum than Romney. If Newt were to drop out, states like Illinois would most likely go to Rick.

Sorry Newt, it’s time to bow out gracefully.


34 posted on 03/16/2012 7:40:47 AM PDT by sandshark222
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To: Bikkuri

Why was Newt shilling to Union textile workers in SC? Newt IS a great guy but he has failings too. Santorum is just as good as Newt but with failings. Do as you please.


35 posted on 03/16/2012 10:10:45 AM PDT by GulfBreeze (Still a Santorum guy !)
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To: Kenny

We’ll see how Newt getting out of Illinois affects things there. Santorum will pick up most of his vote but not all of it. One thing will happen in addition to Newt’s votes moving around to other candidates when he gets out. There is a 3 to 6 percent inevitable bump that Romney is getting. The more competitive Santorum gets the more that bump erodes. These are basic sheep voters who just want to vote for whoever they think is going to win anyway. Once there is not a “front runner” they scramble and either don’t vote at all or disperse widely across the remaining candidates.


36 posted on 03/16/2012 10:15:22 AM PDT by GulfBreeze (Still a Santorum guy !)
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To: GulfBreeze
We’ll see how Newt getting out of Illinois affects

I didn't take that he was getting out. Is that from this article?

37 posted on 03/16/2012 10:55:48 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: Kenny

Well I don’t think he is taking his name off the ballot but I thought not campaigning there was the thrust of the statement made. It also seemed to be the theme of some of the comments but I may have been reading something into it that was not there.


38 posted on 03/16/2012 12:57:36 PM PDT by GulfBreeze (Still a Santorum guy !)
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To: Steelfish

“Time for Newt’s ardent followers to open their minds and ears to what is occurring and decamp him.”

The “ardent followers” are less likely to concede for the good of the nation because they are prone to infatuation as much as are the Romulans.

The CHRISTAN Newt voters I believe for the most part see the writing on the wall and despite their preference for Newt, will sensibly vote for Santorum in order to stop Romney.

The polls I saw in IL today show that Romney would win - because there are two conservatives in the race.

If Newt is really in this to stop Romney and he knows he cannot get enough delagates - he should FLAT OUT ENDORSE RICK IN ILLINOIS despite his intent to stay in.

If he splits that vote and gives Illinois that state - he will forever tarnish his name and go down in - infamy.


39 posted on 03/16/2012 2:42:36 PM PDT by publius321
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To: Christie at the beach

“The more the insiders talk, the more I like Newt.”

Me too - I voted for Newt here in Florida. And the more I like Newt, the more I hate the fact that he is going to get Romney elected if he doe not leave this race or flat out endorse Santorum in Illinois while staying in the race.

He has basically, publically said that he’s in it to stop Romney from getting the nomination - so why the hell not?

That would make it amusing at least.

Nevertheless, if Newt gets Romney the nomination, I sure as hell am NOT voting for the pathological lying Elmer Gantry pretending to be a Republican.

Hence, I embrace the apocolypse before I re-inforce the corrupt and ignominious behavior engaged repeatedly to nominate this sleaze they call Mitt. Secession I suppose it will be.


40 posted on 03/16/2012 2:58:37 PM PDT by publius321
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To: Steelfish

A big yawn without Newt in the race.

Newt basically told his supporters to go with Santorum as he would not contest in Illinois, so they can vote for Santorum.

That is his strategy and he will do the same in NY and Penn, giving his supporters to Santorum.

Let’s see what Santorum do in these liberal/moderate states without Santorum. My guess is that Romney machine will clobber him.


41 posted on 03/17/2012 3:26:44 AM PDT by God-fear-republican
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To: Steelfish

With 175,000 Newt donors, if each donor gave an additional $200 each (on average) that would be $35 million.


42 posted on 03/17/2012 11:46:03 AM PDT by Bizhvywt
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