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Doug Schoen: Wisconsin Union Protests Prove the Midwest Is Now America's Middle East
Fox News ^ | March 4, 2011 | Douglas E. Schoen, Democratic Strategist

Posted on 03/15/2012 11:16:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

With a strong democratic tradition and an equally strong history of confidence in our institutions, the American people – on both the right and the left – have long believed with absolute confidence that the United States is immune to the kind of threat to stability that has rocked and is currently rocking the Middle East – in countries like Egypt Bahrain and Yemen.

This is no longer true.

The United States today is a country that lacks fiscal stability, political stability, and economic stability.

It is clear, with the tens of thousands of public employees that have descended on Wisconsin’s Capitol Hill to protest Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker's proposal to limit union bargaining– following a week during which 14 Democratic State Senators fled the state and went into hiding to deprive the Senate of a quorum and Madison Wisconsin’s schools were forced to close due to a district-wide teachers union “sick out”–that the legislative process is breaking down.

Put simply, the Midwest has effectively become our Middle East...

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2011; obama; oldarticle; teaparty; unions; volatilemidwest; wisconsin
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1 posted on 03/15/2012 11:16:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Indeed. Richard Trumka was part of the Arab SpringFlingaDingDong. And each and every Muslim, just as each and every union member, will be faced with the question: Whose side are you on?


2 posted on 03/15/2012 11:28:27 PM PDT by jobim (.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The police, firefighters, teachers and government workers have gone parasitic against the people of Wisconsin..

They are worried that Wisconsin will no longer be their cookie jar.. their prey.. a cadaver for feeding..
They are worried that the State may go “right to work”..

They are drones fighting for “the HIVE”...
Political insects.. automatons.. you know democrats...


3 posted on 03/15/2012 11:30:22 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: hosepipe

Their behavior is bewildering.


4 posted on 03/15/2012 11:35:23 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: nutmeg

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5 posted on 03/15/2012 11:37:26 PM PDT by nutmeg (Rest in Peace, and THANK YOU, Andrew Breitbart)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thugish community organizing at it’s best. At some point, their tactics of intimidation by mob are going to be met with equal and opposite force. Pictures of SEIU muscle yelling at grey haired patriots coming up.


6 posted on 03/15/2012 11:43:23 PM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t think “bi-partisan” efforts are ever going to fix what is wrong in this country.

We have international elitists (institutional, political -
both parties - and business) who basically disrespect Americans , our culture and who hate our country’s foundation. They have no loyalty and no integrity. That includes the unions. They have ripped apart our social and economic fabric and created a monster. Socialism is illegal under the constitution and it’s amoral humanist diversity tribal culture does not support the design of America’s ethics, integrity, freedom and independence. Our culture, born out of living the constitution’s ideology, is why we used to be peaceful and prosperous.

Will the Left use this as an opportunity to create their revolution? Yes, that is why they have worked so hard to culturaly cleanse, hurt and tear apart everything that was good and strong in this country so they could have their Marxist revolution.

I don’t know if they will get away with it, but they have a marxist in the White House to help.


7 posted on 03/15/2012 11:44:53 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Public unions were a bad idea from the start...it pits the union member against his friends, neighbors, and family because they are ultimately the evil corporate bosses trying to bury the working man.
8 posted on 03/15/2012 11:45:34 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (Obama is just the symptom of what is destroying the U.S.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This article is over a year old. Why post it now?


9 posted on 03/15/2012 11:52:39 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: M. Thatcher

Because the article isn’t a year old, if you go to the link, it was just posted 12 hrs. ago.


10 posted on 03/16/2012 12:11:16 AM PDT by Tamar1973 ("Never care what the other guy has, it is not yours and someone always has more."--isthisnickcool)
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To: SaraJohnson

“I don’t think “bi-partisan” efforts are ever going to fix what is wrong in this country.”

I have always preached on FR that co-existence with liberals will never achieve anything. They are the ones who have to “go” as each day they plan to destroy the country..


11 posted on 03/16/2012 12:12:39 AM PDT by max americana
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To: Tamar1973
I did go to the link.

By Douglas E. Schoen Published March 04, 2011

It is now 2012.

12 posted on 03/16/2012 12:16:34 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Do they REALLY want to have this fight? Govt unions against the rest of America?


13 posted on 03/16/2012 12:17:32 AM PDT by Bullish
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey folks. Take this with a piece grain of salt. Doug Schoen is actively trying to inject a third party candidate to cause a Ross Perot effect this election. His #1 choice for a candidate? Jon Huntsman. There may be an agenda here to spin things.


14 posted on 03/16/2012 12:19:54 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I agree. I live in Wisconsin and the liberal left shouts louder because they have the union support and the liberal press, but most of the Wisconsinites I know are quiet conservatives, who roll their eyes at the teachers with their undies in a bundle and just let them rant.


15 posted on 03/16/2012 12:24:53 AM PDT by ScubieNuc (When there is no justice in the laws, justice is left to the outlaws.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Am I wrong, did’nt we have laws against government employees having unions? Then we allowed unions, but they had a no strike clause?

Then came unionized garbage strikes, then unionized teachers strikes etc.


16 posted on 03/16/2012 12:32:06 AM PDT by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonymous)
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To: LetMarch

Am I wrong, did’nt we have laws against government employees having unions? ....Kennedy signed on to the law establishing public sector unions but I don’t know about strike prohibitions. Probably for “Critical” jobs, which is why Regan fired the Air Traffic Controllers.


17 posted on 03/16/2012 1:01:03 AM PDT by Safetgiver (I'd rather die under a free American sky than live under a Socialist regime.)
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To: LetMarch
Am I wrong, did’nt we have laws against government employees having unions?

Undone by a single Executive Order by JFK.

18 posted on 03/16/2012 1:55:56 AM PDT by itsahoot (Tag lines are a waste of bandwidth, as are my comments.)
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To: hosepipe

They’ve been doing this in NJ for decades, driving the state into economic ruin. Now cities have laid off 1/3 of their police forces; it is time to pay the piper. Our class sizes will be 50 children, but it has becme clear that this is what we can afford when teachers working 180 days per year, 6.5 hours per day, earn $80K at age 40. Another result is that our roads rival those of Namibia; there is no money left for any maintenance.


19 posted on 03/16/2012 2:22:07 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: max americana

America is in decline, and the “us vs. them” sentiments fired up by the left are much to blame. The virtue of opportunity for self-improvement and prosperity has given way to the narcotic of government largesse.

Events will get uglier before they ever get better. In Wisconsin, the factions benefiting most from the status quo of that government-benefit narcotic — the public sector unions — may turn to open violence if their last hope of overturning last year`s state budget laws, i.e., the recall of Gov. Walker, fails.

The thugs know Alinsky`s tactics well and will use them to their dying breath. They`ve called the shots in the Rust Belt states and will not give up power easily.


20 posted on 03/16/2012 2:23:37 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: Bullish

“Do they REALLY want to have this fight? Govt unions against the rest of America?”

It isn’t just gov’t. unions; it will be the permanent dependent underclass, the retired dependents, and anyone else looking to the gubmint for income siding with them.

In the Northeast that coalition has been successful for a long time; it is crumbling now due to lack of taxpayer funding. They have decimated the middle class here, and even Obama had to take from Medicare to fund healthcare for our illegal “replacement Americans” (hopefully losing a lot of senior support in the process, though American voters have short memories).


21 posted on 03/16/2012 2:26:22 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2

They’d do well to remember who has most of the guns before they go picking a fight with the real America.


22 posted on 03/16/2012 2:38:39 AM PDT by Bullish
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To: Bullish

“They’d do well to remember who has most of the guns before they go picking a fight with the real America.”

They control enough to ignore that; the American people are too disorganized.


23 posted on 03/16/2012 2:55:51 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: SaraJohnson

Anyone who ever believed in that SOP ,Bipartisanship is a Sucker,that was just for the Morons who dont know what the Hell they Believe in,or, are cowards who wont stand up for what they do believe in for fear of being Criticized.
We are living with the Results of 60 years of so called Bipartisanship,A America Hating Muslim Marxist,How do you like it?


24 posted on 03/16/2012 3:25:04 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
Mr Schoen maybe way of base here...

The whole reason for stirring up the hornets was not the cuts, ( but the drones didn't know that ) it was paycheck protection.

Funny thing is...

It just passed the House and Senate in Michigan (for state workers, it may not be all of them) and the Governerd will sign it.

And Trumpka and the rest of his Stalinist have not uttered a peep.

Either they are: out of money, can't go to the mat and get another smack down in the arena of ideas, or they can't get their drones fired up again....

Funny thing is, I know of one drone who was posting on FB about his going their and soooo proud...Mysteriously got fired in a re-org of his company... Hmmmm Schadenfreude Baby...

25 posted on 03/16/2012 3:33:11 AM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; ..

Wisconsin Ping — Public Sector Union Protests

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.


26 posted on 03/16/2012 4:27:06 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

govt employees have had higher compensation and retirement than the private sector for years.
Waaaay past time unionists compensations are reeled back to reality.
Waaaay past time to reduce the size and scope of waaasay tooo big gub mint and teachers unions.


27 posted on 03/16/2012 4:35:09 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: hosepipe

You had it right the first time. They are parasites.

Problem is, once the host is dead, there is no place else to go. Kalifornia is quickly getting there as is most blue states.


28 posted on 03/16/2012 4:51:33 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Solyent Pink is Sheeple!!!!)
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To: Joe Boucher

“I agree. I live in Wisconsin and the liberal left shouts louder because they have the union support and the liberal press, but most of the Wisconsinites I know are quiet conservatives, who roll their eyes at the teachers with their undies in a bundle and just let them rant.”.

Well, I too live in Wisconsin and have yet to see what, if any non-union resistance there will be come election time. The unions are VERY WELL organized and push their BS every minute of the day. Will the non-union support base rise up, who knows? Will they vote the unions out? I doubt it will happen because most of them don’t even know what is going on in Wisconsin and for sure the folks on the western border doesn’t. I have spoken with several of them and most get their news from the Minnesota (St. Paul/Minneapolis)liberals news sources.


29 posted on 03/16/2012 5:06:02 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: kearnyirish2

“the American people are too disorganized.”

Don’t extrapolate your lack of organizational skills onto the rest of America. Other states are doing a great job of driving leftists from power. In fact, I think Walker is about to score a huge victory over the fat union pigs in Wisconsin.


30 posted on 03/16/2012 6:28:20 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a difference a year makes! Lets look at WI and IL now.

Quinn increased taxes immensely this last year as a concession to the union while tut tutting what Walker was doing up here...guess what’s happening today in Illinois?

Illinois Unions will be staging protests at Quinn’s home and at the State Capitol over job cuts due to still not being able to balance the budget even after the tax increases.

Walker facing a public union led recall now has the unions at each others throats (private vs public and now teachers unions vs teachers unions) over whether they should make sensible concessions to keep jobs...all while not increasing taxes in our State and balancing the budget.

I guess this makes us the Midwest’s Israel while IL is now our Libya... ;)


31 posted on 03/16/2012 7:09:47 AM PDT by MNlurker
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To: Progov

Never consedered the western part of the state coming under the evil spell of the Minneapolis papers.
Don’t the fools understand that pre Walker the gubmint was out of spending control.
After Walker many school as well as well as municipal budgets are in the black??


32 posted on 03/16/2012 8:38:38 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: Joe Boucher

“Consedered”?
What the hell is that???


33 posted on 03/16/2012 8:39:25 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: Gene Eric

[ Their behavior is bewildering. ]

The Unions are parasites.. not unusual at all..
The Unions meaning union members.. they are people..


34 posted on 03/16/2012 10:03:57 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: crazyhorse691

“Public unions were a bad idea from the start ....”

Also because Union reps are sitting at both sides of the bargaining table, on one side union officers ostensibly chosen by the members, and on the other side, to one degree or another, the ultimate decision makers (i.e., funding appropriators) are union-bought legislators.


35 posted on 03/16/2012 10:35:18 AM PDT by Elsiejay (in)
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To: sergeantdave

“Don’t extrapolate your lack of organizational skills onto the rest of America. Other states are doing a great job of driving leftists from power. In fact, I think Walker is about to score a huge victory over the fat union pigs in Wisconsin.”

Thanks; I must have imagined the last 3 years...


36 posted on 03/16/2012 3:45:26 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2
The Wisconsin recall votes are as important to the health of this country as is the presidential election.

If they win, they'll cower every Pubby state office holder in the land.

37 posted on 03/16/2012 5:18:43 PM PDT by chiller ( Elect another batch of TPartiers and it won't matter which R we elect. WE will lead.)
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To: kearnyirish2

“Thanks; I must have imagined the last 3 years...”

You’re right. Imagination plays a strong role in delusion and the extrapolation of fantasies onto others.


38 posted on 03/16/2012 5:39:28 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: chiller

I understand its importance; that is why we elected Governor Christie here in NJ. He had the same forces arrayed against him, but a lot of overtaxed voters supported him (and will continue to as long as he is around).

It’s nice to have politicians stop pretending public schools work.


39 posted on 03/17/2012 2:42:45 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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