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Former Rutgers student convicted in webcam case
AP ^ | 3/16/12

Posted on 03/16/2012 9:10:02 AM PDT by Williams

NEW BRUNSWICK, N.J. (AP) — A former Rutgers University student accused of using a webcam to spy on his gay roommate's love life was convicted of all counts Friday in a case that exploded into the headlines when the victim of the snooping committed suicide by throwing himself off a bridge.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gay; homophiles; homosexualagenda; rutgers; spying; webcam
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I think the sentence was far too long; half that would send the right message. But I can’t agree more with sending him to jail for a significant amount of time for doing what he did. People must be assured of some sense of privacy in their home. And this was an invasion of privacy in the student’s home (away from home.) Secretly video-taping and then humiliating him should be a crime with severe punishment. If the convicted did not like his roommate there are acceptable alternatives to resolving the issue.


41 posted on 03/16/2012 9:53:35 AM PDT by Jenny217
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To: DMG2FUN

That’s the trouble with socialism. It wants identical outcomes, so it removes equality under the law to achieve it.


42 posted on 03/16/2012 9:55:21 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Williams
the roommate was meeting older men for gay sex.

The Web-cammer is being convicted of invasion of privacy? What privacy? To have your privacy invaded, you have to act as a private person, rather than a public utility.

The most abnormal and heinous crime here is not being addressed: Bringing strange perverts into a dormitory where other kids' parents have paid good money on the assumption that there is meaningful security.

43 posted on 03/16/2012 10:00:19 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Williams
I condemned this kid in a few posts to this site. Later I began to learn some of the details.

Anyone curious about the environment college kids find themselves in these days ought to get a copy of Tom Wolf's I Am Charlotte Simmons

The book reports how chaste (or inactive) dorm-mates often find themselves "sex-iled" from their rooms while their room-mates carry on affairs. I seem to recall there were several such episodes. Clementi doesn't seem to have been very stable.

My understanding is that this kid used a typical computer device-- an inconspicuous, low-resolution web-cam-- he did not install an elaborate surveillance system. His action, it seems, was spur-of-the-moment response to momentary anger.

Ten years of his life have been taken by a jury--no doubt prejudiced by prior media exposure and the judge's denial of pertinent details--for embarrassing the room-mate over the use of his own bed-room.

44 posted on 03/16/2012 10:03:15 AM PDT by tsomer
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To: muawiyah

So, the University told Ravi to use a Security system to secretly record his roommate, in his bedroom - where the expectation of privacy exists - and then post his intimate activities on the intenet?

Really? I didn’t see that anywhere at your souce. It seems to me that Ravi decided to use the webcam to invade, humiliate and hurt his roommate - to the great amount possible.


45 posted on 03/16/2012 10:06:20 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: LottieDah
Suppose a young adult calls another overweight young adult a "fat bastard" and posts pictures of him with his shirt off on the internet. Then, the next day, the overweight young adult jumps off a bridge.

Should the rude name caller go to prison for 10 years? Is he responsible for the other adult's death? For the ensuing tsunami?

46 posted on 03/16/2012 10:09:02 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Hodar
still not 10 years. Also, people have done this and didn't get ten years; it is unequal justice. understand?

And considering that our friendly gub'mint is pushing that we Americans no longer have any expectations of privacy I see a contradiction.

47 posted on 03/16/2012 10:09:28 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Williams
For the first time I just heard on the radio that the guy who took the video was a Pakistani and was not born here and would probably be deported after his sentence.
48 posted on 03/16/2012 10:10:10 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: NativeSon

If someone installed a webcam in my bedroom, and recorded intimate sessions with my wife, edited and posted the video; then sent emails to my friends, family and neighbors - I think 10 years would be about right.

If I caught him, I’d likely get about the same for what I would do.


49 posted on 03/16/2012 10:14:45 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

...20 years in prison, then out before 2 years...

I think the system does this to criminals who belong to some politically correct protected category. When the crime is too heinous to merely let the criminal go with a suspended sentence, they will give her/him what may look like an appropriate sentence but then when the story is out of the public eye, the system works to let the criminal get out after a short term. It is all part of the political system’s art of manipulating the public. They spend most of the time lying to us rather than doing what they are supposed to.


50 posted on 03/16/2012 10:19:36 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: dead
Suppose a young adult calls another overweight young adult a "fat bastard" and posts pictures of him with his shirt off on the internet. Then, the next day, the overweight young adult jumps off a bridge. Should the rude name caller go to prison for 10 years? Is he responsible for the other adult's death? For the ensuing tsunami?

The penalty depends upon the state you live in. However, taking pictures of one with their shirt off in public (where there is no expectation of privacy) is a far cry of what happened here. There is now, and always has been an expectation of privacy in your bedroom. But, to address the specifics - I would encourage you to see the laws in your particular state.

http://www.cyberbullying.us/Bullying_and_Cyberbullying_Laws.pdf

51 posted on 03/16/2012 10:20:33 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Hodar
I'm not saying that I wouldn't put a beatin on someone like this, I would. My problem is with the law, it is unequal treatment. This type of thing occurs in divorce sagas and no one gets 10 years in the cooler for it.

They shared a room - how much privacy could either expect/demand? He could have invited everyone over to watch them live.

52 posted on 03/16/2012 10:27:56 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Williams

PC nonsense. The article says he could be deported to India. If he has any sense, he will head that way without waiting to be deported.


53 posted on 03/16/2012 10:29:33 AM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: Hodar

Your bedroom is not a shared dorm room. Both occupants of that dorm room had a right to expect that it would not be used as a private bedroom - it was not. Students should rent a hotel room for sexual activity.

The taping should not have been shared with his friends - but he had every right to protect his space and his stuff - if that was the motivation for leaving his computer cam on. He was immature and stupid, but not malicious.


54 posted on 03/16/2012 10:31:20 AM PDT by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason...... to bring America back from the brink.)
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To: sodpoodle

If that was his motivation, why did he dare other students to log onto a chat session and watch Clementi and the other man?


55 posted on 03/16/2012 10:34:39 AM PDT by Coronal
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To: Williams

I remember some freepers calling for 20 years for Lori Drew when she bullied a teenage girl to the point of suicide. I thought that was extreme, and I think 10 years in this case is extreme, but I do think there should be serious consequences for bullying someone to death. I wonder how many freepers defending this bully also defended Lori Drew. Just curious.


56 posted on 03/16/2012 10:34:56 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Jonty30

3 years (followed by deportation) might be more appropriate. I’m not sure if he is actually facing the 10 years, as he was not convicted on the bias crime charge.

I’m sure the fact that one of the victims killed himself will bring a longer sentence, but I’m not sure that is fair. I think one should be punished based upon the severity of their crime, not how well or poorly their victims handled it.


57 posted on 03/16/2012 10:42:30 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (.)
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To: cradle of freedom

Well, the mother is white and ugly - maybe that is a protected class.


58 posted on 03/16/2012 10:44:34 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Congress touched me inappropriately, they should be put on administrative leave immediately)
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To: Hodar
You come in here to FR and plead ignorance. Of course you'd leave your webcam on while you were away ~ else what would you log into while out on campus if you were worried about someone trying to steal your computer?

There was a claim by the prosecutor that Ravi designed and laid out this system for the purpose of spying on his roommate. At the same time he put together EXACTLY the system the university recommended (and described).

His intent was to protect his stuff.

Back to the issue of pleading ignorance about computer systems while posting on FR, may I encourage you to READ the full piece of the university, and look up the specifications on that card, and also look for the university's discussion of the capabilities of their campus wide internet capabilities.

It's full service ~ pictures, voice, funny noises, text ~ whatever you want. Turn on, tune in, and drop out. Everything is there and you need neither intent nor interest.

59 posted on 03/16/2012 10:46:08 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Hodar

There was, as I understand it, NO RECORDING MADE, so if you didn’t record something ............... well, it’s just unreasonable to prosecute a guy for recording when he didn’t.


60 posted on 03/16/2012 10:47:43 AM PDT by muawiyah
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