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Romney, Santorum Tie as Gingrich Voters' 2nd Choice - via Gallup
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Posted on 03/16/2012 11:31:39 AM PDT by Fred

PRINCETON, NJ -- Republican voters who prefer Newt Gingrich for the party's 2012 presidential nomination are as likely to name Mitt Romney as their second choice as they are to name Rick Santorum, suggesting the race would not tilt in Santorum's favor if Gingrich dropped out.


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1 posted on 03/16/2012 11:31:45 AM PDT by Fred
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To: Fred

It’s a mistake to write off Newt!

Movin’ on up - again!


2 posted on 03/16/2012 11:35:33 AM PDT by bopdowah ("Unlike King Midas, whatever the Gubmint touches sure don't turn to Gold!')
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To: Fred

Not to mention, what if Santorum does a Howard Dean? Then what its Romney all the way?


3 posted on 03/16/2012 11:36:08 AM PDT by Leep (Dueling tag lines=don't worry,you'll be a vegetable guy soon<>It's gonna be a Newt day!)
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To: Fred

Not to mention, what if Santorum does a Howard Dean? Then what its Romney all the way?


4 posted on 03/16/2012 11:36:18 AM PDT by Leep (Dueling tag lines=don't worry,you'll be a vegetable guy soon<>It's gonna be a Newt day!)
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To: Fred
LOL! I was just getting ready to post this myself......This supports what I have been saying for the last week.

All I get from it, are all sorts of personal attacks and innuendo about how Santorum will easily win without Newt in the picture. Which is not at all true.

5 posted on 03/16/2012 11:37:55 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Leep
Or we get a Santos surprise like this one


6 posted on 03/16/2012 11:38:26 AM PDT by Fred (http://whenmittromneycametotown.com)
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To: Fred

Time to break out the good stuff. This could get interesting...
http://www.amazon.com/Act-II-Popcorn-4-2-Ounce-Packages/dp/B000CQG894


7 posted on 03/16/2012 11:39:32 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romney - Santorum: Twin Sons of Different Mothers...)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
your welcome


8 posted on 03/16/2012 11:40:45 AM PDT by Fred (http://whenmittromneycametotown.com)
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To: Fred

Hard to believe but I guess some view Newt/Mitt as having stronger resumes, rather than voting on ideology. I know when I bought into the Gingrich bandwagon a lot was based on his “gravitas” as former Speaker.


9 posted on 03/16/2012 11:41:27 AM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: bopdowah

So when Newt bows out, half of you will become Romneybots. I see.


10 posted on 03/16/2012 11:41:37 AM PDT by steve8714 (Clay...Carnahan...who is the least of these?)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
You do know we are all going to hell, don't you???

EXTREEM SARCASM!!!

11 posted on 03/16/2012 11:42:38 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romney - Santorum: Twin Sons of Different Mothers...)
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To: Leep

I don’t know where you have been the last month, but obviously, it does not include paying attention.

Romney has better than an 80% chance of winning, and considering the remaining states and Romney’s overall poll numbers, it is almost a conclusion.

Our best chance is to force a Brokered Convention, and the only way for that to happen, is to keep Newt in the race, to deny Romney as many delegates as possible.


12 posted on 03/16/2012 11:44:54 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Fred

Well played. :)


13 posted on 03/16/2012 11:45:56 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romney - Santorum: Twin Sons of Different Mothers...)
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To: Fred

ABMR>ABRS -> poll may lead to false conclusions


14 posted on 03/16/2012 11:46:40 AM PDT by impimp
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Thank God none of Santorum’s worshipers are into VOO DOO! We would really be hurting right now!


15 posted on 03/16/2012 11:48:01 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Fred

So half of Newt’s votes would go to Mitt if Newt dropped out.

Hey Newt, please stay in the game!


16 posted on 03/16/2012 11:48:25 AM PDT by donna (Republicans won't change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: Fred

You didn’t have show us a picture of you in your Halloween costume to make that point, did you?


17 posted on 03/16/2012 11:48:36 AM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: steve8714

No, that’s not what it means. This was not a poll of FR Newt supporters, it was a poll of the general population of Newt supporters.

And yes, intelligence, accomplishment, resume are more important than ideology for many voters and those folks would, out of this entire field, normally pick Newt first and probably Romney second. They would have also been perhaps enamored of Cain (business) or Perry (governor).

They would not have had any interest in Santorum or Paul or Bachmann or Huntsman.

Again, this is about the “non FR” universe, which some here, sadly, fail to remember does exist.


18 posted on 03/16/2012 11:51:12 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: impimp

Right, but any similar poll favoring your hero, are all spot-on legitimate, credible, peachy keen.......We see it every day here.


19 posted on 03/16/2012 11:51:12 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
LOL!!!

Reminds me of my trip to the bombed out Ba'ath Party House. My supervisor was from New Orleans and absolutely refused to go in the room where a couple hundred bodies were just concreted over. Said spirits were there.

20 posted on 03/16/2012 11:53:39 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romney - Santorum: Twin Sons of Different Mothers...)
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To: Fred

Wow, I didn’t realize so many RINOs were Newt supporters. Mitt will be begging him to drop out soon. Santorum needs to be quiet and thank the Lord for his blessings.


21 posted on 03/16/2012 11:59:21 AM PDT by Waryone (Mitt Romney, dangerous homosexualist and lying socialist)
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To: Fred

Gingrich should accept a VP spot to Santorum.


23 posted on 03/16/2012 12:17:57 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Fred
Not this voter! At least, Santorum is able to coherently discuss some of the principles of America's Declaration and Constitution--something Romney has yet to do!

Many American voters, except for Seniors, were never taught the constitutional ideas that are absolutely essential to freedom for individuals.

Given the devotion of the current President to another set of ideas, no Republican candidate can win who is not able to lay a bright light of distinction between America's constitutional protections and the Marxian philosophy of government planning, control, and redistribution.

Romney's silly claim of "he's in over his head," and "he just doesn't understand the economy" will not cut it, and they underestimate the opponent in November.

24 posted on 03/16/2012 12:20:28 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: DannyTN

He’s already effectively admitted that he has virtually no chance of winning the nomination and Santorum has said that Newt is at the top of his short list for VP.


25 posted on 03/16/2012 12:20:59 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
All I get from it, are all sorts of personal attacks and innuendo about how Santorum will easily win without Newt in the picture. Which is not at all true.

How do you know? In Missouri, where Gingrich wasn't on the ballot, Santorum got 51% of the vote. Even in Virginia, kooky Ron Paul got 41% of the vote in a one-on-one with Romney.

26 posted on 03/16/2012 12:24:03 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Waryone

You are guilty of a colossal mis read of the tea leaves. Let me take a stab at clearing it up for you:

I would be that many Newt supporters (outside the FR universe) know that outside of being more reliable and more vocal on social issues, Santorum is no more conservative than Romney and understands far less about economics.


27 posted on 03/16/2012 12:25:04 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Fred
If Ron would drop out, I think Newt would have a better shot at taking out Mitt. Once Mitt is gone, Newt would either get the required ll44 delegates or, at the least, tie with Rick going into the convention. My feeling is Newt would be the brokered winner in the end.

Go ahead and flame away, but if Newt announced Sarah as his running mate (long shot that she will accept though) we would end up with a dream team with debating skills beyond imagination. Not to mention a true Conservative ticket. Also, consider the fact that Sarah would be at the top of the list for future President of the United States.

28 posted on 03/16/2012 12:27:54 PM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war....)
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To: Kazan

Don’t confuse the Santorum bashers with the facts.


29 posted on 03/16/2012 12:27:54 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: cripplecreek

Wouldn’t you love to see Newt as president of the senate?? He’s already been head of the other legislative body. Boy would he shake that place up, siezing the agenda from the majority and minority leaders, mastering the rules, etc.

It would be beautiful.


30 posted on 03/16/2012 12:29:10 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Kazan

I could have shown the male evangelical pastor that was doing his male massage therapist, but I figured you did not want to be exposed..


31 posted on 03/16/2012 12:29:54 PM PDT by Fred (http://whenmittromneycametotown.com)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Lol. Not true but very funny. Once this primary is over we will all be back as one team.


32 posted on 03/16/2012 12:31:27 PM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

No kidding! I have seen a whole lot myself in the Asian side of the Globe, Brother, there is a great big World out there that sees things quite different from our version of Baseball, Apple Pie and Easter Bunny’s.

One learns a rather realistic outlook when one is exposed to these things.


33 posted on 03/16/2012 12:33:31 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: makomako
ARLEN SPECTOR?!?!?!?


34 posted on 03/16/2012 12:33:56 PM PDT by Fred (http://whenmittromneycametotown.com)
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To: cotton1706

I can’t stand the man but can’t think of anyone better for the job. The things I dislike about him make him perfect for it.


35 posted on 03/16/2012 12:36:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: makomako
No, This is Romney's "Wing Man".
36 posted on 03/16/2012 12:37:45 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: steve8714
Ahh yes the usual fanatical Santorum screech
37 posted on 03/16/2012 12:39:10 PM PDT by Fred (http://whenmittromneycametotown.com)
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To: napscoordinator
You think things will all heal up after all the nasty attacks and insults being leveled here? I would find that hard to believe. Especially after all the “I told you so’s” start flying around.
38 posted on 03/16/2012 12:40:31 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

No misread here. Forty percent of Newt’s supporters had Mitt Romney as their second choice. Compared to Romney, RINOs look conservative. If they can even imagine voting for the father of Obamacare and the provider of $50.00 and free abortions, I can only imagine what else they would support.

Romney is a democrat. Since that 40 percent chose Romney, and not none of the above, I guess those Newt supporters don’t have a problem with that.


39 posted on 03/16/2012 12:44:23 PM PDT by Waryone (Mitt Romney, dangerous homosexualist and lying socialist)
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To: Fred
I could have shown the male evangelical pastor that was doing his male massage therapist

That you're into gay porn is more than we needed to know.

Are you afraid you won't be able to find anymore of those types of pictures if Santorum becomes President.

You're the poster boy for the anti-Santorum vote here!

40 posted on 03/16/2012 12:44:31 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Fred

Newt is my first and ONLY choice.

I will not vote for either of the unqualified candidates.


41 posted on 03/16/2012 12:47:02 PM PDT by Gator113 (** President Newt Gingrich-"Our beloved republic deserves nothing less." ~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Kazan

I am not the one who endorsed Romney in 2008 and call him a true conservative.. As this video shows

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu50Hb61jVQ


42 posted on 03/16/2012 12:49:09 PM PDT by Fred (http://whenmittromneycametotown.com)
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To: Waryone

I suggest you read post 18 it is describes exactly what is showing on this poll. The world does not evolve around your fanaticism.


43 posted on 03/16/2012 12:53:10 PM PDT by Fred (http://whenmittromneycametotown.com)
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To: Fred

I think this poll should help put to rest any notion that Newt ought to drop out. If 40% of them go Romney’s way and 39% go Santorum’s way, you need Newt to stay in.


45 posted on 03/16/2012 1:12:45 PM PDT by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: Gator113

The way I look at it, as long as Newt stays in I get to vote for him in my primary. After that, if it’s an open convention, it’s up to the 4 of them to convince the delegates that they are the one who should face Obama. It’s not Newt’s or Rick’s responsibility to put the other one over the top now. It’s their responsibility to do all they can to get the nomination. If Santorum believes the majority of the delegates will jump on his bandwagon in Tampa, then he has nothing to fear, right?


46 posted on 03/16/2012 1:17:35 PM PDT by Mangia E Statti Zitto
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To: Fred

Go to the site and read inside further of these polls- And look at Newt’s— pretty good for America being told over and over - deliberate misinformation- about the Speaker- like that he is too much of an insider, too old, now in the crazy man stage as in one never knows what he will say or do- and doesn’t look like to have any chance even after his SC win, they reported this—or what about angry, to he’s so bitter- And how he left his wives while one wife is dying as Newt-making a scene by as the wife for him to not leave her, as she is dying in the hospital (all lies, NBC) His former wife is well and has a productive relationship with Newt and their 2 children (daughters) today. Proves evil is among us, doesn’t it..

I believe the media have played up the 2 weakest guys. They play the public like a fiddle. The public rarely outsmarts the media because too many of us are comfortable with things as they are. I think that we are going to lose because there’s a deeper resentment towards Romney than it was for McCain. ( I think some is of Mitt’s religion-yes, I do, I said it) I keep talking to people who are saying they don’t care any longer. Most of those can’t understand why people are not supporting Newt. They feel the country is already lost and we need a tragic awakening to get a chance for bringing America back (so the lemmings and liberals can grow up to be an adult).

We keep our action groups motivated though some are becoming very troubled in believing change will not be allowed to come. One cannot give up, we must fight on.

Newt needs to stay in all of the way to the convention. He needs to keep talking about his reform policies; to keep positive against all of the media attacks. Be presidential, a statesman as even CNN refers to Newt from time to time. Don’t give up knowing that you are smarter than the others and so desire to get in to work on improving things, Newt.- Keep the faith to all- God has a plan and that is for Newt to be at Tampa. Keep supporting Newt. He said that things would have low peaks and that the media will do anything to discredit him. Newt is our only hope. If he steps down, those other 2 will not get my help. I know this an important election cycle. We need another person in front. Newt Gingrich can bring the enthusiasm up with his IDEAS of Bold reforms.

We are in a stage to save our country; not just to get someone in who can be close to what we have now- i.e. banking corruption to the Wall Street companies, crony capitalism and the media manipulating the citizens. It is time to break up that corruption like Breitbart talked of doing. Break the media strangle hold and fight for a real change. Things have to get bad before a change comes-nothing comes easy when you are in a battle of which way you will allow your country to be. A foreign land or America, the beautiful. This is time to rebel, not go along. Don’t lose your convictions by just going along. And don’t allow this negative input that you read: to change your focus.

Mr. Speaker, keep going. American needs you. They need a person who understands what America is and what she is supposed to be. Thank you for standing up when you could have stayed home and watched the decay from the sidelines. God Bless you. Your supporters admire you and of the hope that you give to us.


47 posted on 03/16/2012 1:19:27 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: Fred

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUs-DoeqI5U&feature=youtu.be


48 posted on 03/16/2012 1:24:50 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
I have a feeling this poll would be different if they said Newt would become Santorum's V.P.

Our best chance is to force a Brokered Convention, and the only way for that to happen, is to keep Newt in the race, to deny Romney as many delegates as possible.

Show me the math where keeping Newt in the race denies Romney more delegates. With about 800 of the remaining 1,200 delegates subject to winner-take-all rules, the lower-vote-getting conservative is almost guaranteed to play the Ross Perot role in some of those contests.

Check out this analysis showing states where Newt helps Romney. This analysis assumes only 56% of Newt's votes go to Santorum. Alabama and Mississippi are cases in point. Romney would've only got 6-12 delegates in those with Newt out of the race rather than the 23 he did get.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2859712/posts

49 posted on 03/16/2012 1:26:45 PM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
outside of being more reliable and more vocal on social issues, Santorum is no more conservative than Romney and understands far less about economics.

At best Romney and Santorum are tied on economic prowess. Romney certainly doesn't understand not to hike fees and taxes, not to means test Social Security, not to tie the minimum wage to inflation, not to stick with a progressive tax, and of course MA was 47th in job creation under his tenure. Santorum is arguably not much better on economics, but few Republicans could possibly be worse.

How could Romney be "vocal" on social issues? He's got nothing to say that Republicans who are pro-life and anti-gay marriage would want to hear.

50 posted on 03/16/2012 1:34:44 PM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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