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Three in 10 young adults live with parents, highest level since 1950s
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2012/0315/Three-in-10-young-adults-live-with-parents-highest-level-since-1950s ^

Posted on 03/16/2012 7:22:59 PM PDT by dewawi

A weak economy and high debt levels are prompting more young adults to return to the family nest, a new survey shows. Perhaps surprisingly, most are happy with their living arrangements.

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


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Weird... Brian Williams on NBC tonight told us these kids were moving home because of free food and someone to do their wash....

I kid you NOT. My wife and I looked at each other after Williams said tonight young Americans were moving home where the food was free and someone would do their wash...

Unbelievable...Williams said not ONE WORD about NOT HAVING JOBS.

1 posted on 03/16/2012 7:23:04 PM PDT by dewawi
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To: dewawi

In the 1950s the adults living with parents were “old maids”. Those “adults” living with parents today are college graduates with worthless degrees and a ton of debt have of which are female and the other half of which are wussies.


2 posted on 03/16/2012 7:29:45 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Romney ruined Massachusetts. Now he wants to ruin the nation.)
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To: dewawi

They have jobs but they are low paying jobs where they don’t earn enough to move out on their own.


3 posted on 03/16/2012 7:32:06 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: dewawi

Barry’s “fundamental transformation” is taking us backwards in time. The liberal regressives are really starting to piss me off.


4 posted on 03/16/2012 7:34:23 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The first lesson you learn as a pollster is that people are stupid. - Dem pollster, Tom Jensen)
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To: dewawi

“Unbelievable...Williams said not ONE WORD about NOT HAVING JOBS.”

I find it more unbelievable that Freepers still watch that Obama ass-kisser.


5 posted on 03/16/2012 7:36:59 PM PDT by max americana
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To: dewawi

My daughter, son in law and 2 grandkids moved in with me 2 years ago. I am single and living in a house way too big for just me, so there’s plenty of room. Son in law finishing his degree. They’ll probably be with me another couple years.


6 posted on 03/16/2012 7:39:26 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: umgud

We are having to kick out our grandkids because of a daughter in law that’s bi-polar and schizophrenic. She is imploding and our son won’t medicate her. She’s a danger to everyone but she’s destroying our marriage. Not to mention her and our son are part of a tiny religious cult. A cult that doesn’t want them and won’t help them.


7 posted on 03/16/2012 7:50:45 PM PDT by George from New England
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To: dewawi
"Weird... Brian Williams on NBC tonight told us these kids were moving home because of free food and someone to do their wash...."

It's no surprise to me. Most people who receive higher incomes from the government debt regime would say the same. It makes them feel better about being the real socialist parasites. I know young people who live with their parents and work far more than regulators and other idle recipients of government debt.


8 posted on 03/16/2012 7:53:24 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: George from New England

I’m lucky. We have a fair amount of harmony. This is not always the case,


9 posted on 03/16/2012 7:56:08 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: dewawi
Extended families living under one roof is not necessarily a bad thing.
As long as the younger pay rent, utilities, food bills. etc, and as long as both generations respect each other it can be a good thing.

Both partys save money, the younger generation has access to advice from someone that has more experience, the older generation gets a way to stay current on new fads, both help the other in ways that can be unexpected.

10 posted on 03/16/2012 7:57:02 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: dewawi

This is what happens when you take out a $50,000 loan to get a degree in Queer Studies or Comic Book Art.

Broke with no prospects.


11 posted on 03/16/2012 8:02:47 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else (Maybe Tim Thomas))
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Remind me what housing prices were in the 50s.


12 posted on 03/16/2012 8:12:21 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: max americana

Conservatives watching NBC? just those of us wondering what it is like to flog oneself.


13 posted on 03/16/2012 8:20:27 PM PDT by dewawi
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To: FlingWingFlyer

It’s the reality. There’s simply not enough jobs that pay enough.

This is the consequence of keeping housing prices high - it prices people right out of buying houses.

This is also why housing prices need to drop to be in line with what people make these days. That’s the problem with trying to circumvent the market - the market will always have the last laugh.

Now the market is saying, fine, keep your high prices. Now I’m going to destroy demand.


14 posted on 03/16/2012 8:20:37 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: umgud

My wife and I are 54 and 59 respectively. We raised 3 boys and it is very lonesome in this house without them. Enjoy the time you have with them. My criticism of Williams and this story was those young people that were moving home because they had no jobs, no income, nothing. Not those that were bettering themselves like your son in law.


15 posted on 03/16/2012 8:20:54 PM PDT by dewawi
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To: dewawi

I’m a little surprised the % rate isn’t higher than that.


16 posted on 03/16/2012 8:28:12 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: dewawi

Being an adult in the 50s I ddin’t know anyone that still lived at home after they were out of their teens unless they were going to college close to home and lived at home until they graduated.


17 posted on 03/16/2012 8:30:54 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Just another Joe

“the older generation gets a way to stay current on new fads”

Sure as hell don’t consider that a plus!!!!!!


18 posted on 03/16/2012 8:33:42 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"They have jobs but they are low paying jobs where they don’t earn enough to move out on their own."

Bingo! Someone working a 'McJob' for around 10 bucks an hour at Best Buy, Wal-Mart, some gas station or restaurant....ect....ect is going to have most of their paycheck consumed by rent or a mortgage. This leaves little choice but to move in with someone else. That might as well be the parents. This is probably a good thing, because it enables them to save money, but I doubt most do. They probably blow most of their paychecks on nights out with friends, credit card debt, booze, and iGadgets.

19 posted on 03/16/2012 8:34:39 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: George from New England
"We are having to kick out our grandkids because of a daughter in law that’s bi-polar and schizophrenic. She is imploding and our son won’t medicate her. She’s a danger to everyone but she’s destroying our marriage. Not to mention her and our son are part of a tiny religious cult. A cult that doesn’t want them and won’t help them."

Wow.... That sounds like a terrible situation!! Best of luck to you, and your family!

20 posted on 03/16/2012 8:38:28 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: JCBreckenridge
“Remind me what housing prices were in the 50s.”

I was making $1.75/hr and renting a 2 bedroom home for $65/mo.

In 8 years I was able to save $7,000 for a down on a $34k home, in 1966, in a wealthy neighborhood, ( wages had risen to $$3.50)

21 posted on 03/16/2012 8:40:00 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: nhwingut

I think if you could force the news folks to analyze the real story...you’d end up finding that most college graduates (especially four-year degree folks)...are employed, and that few of these people live out of dad’s house because of the bad economy.

The vast majority of these “kids” (I even hate using this term for a 22-year old)....are simply the ones who passed out of high school and maybe had a job at Best Buy, or some book store, or Piggly Wiggly. They might have gotten a year of community college, and maybe even gotten some work as a clerk or mechanic.

They were on the marginal side of life to start with, no real skills to market, no fall-back position, no savings, and no plan-B. On the positive side, Mom and Dad did the right thing. Course, two years from now....as the economy still lingers, and Junior is still living out of the house and barely bringing in $400 a month while delivering pizzas...the question will be how long do they really stay?

You have to feel positive about this....at least we aren’t creating an entire government program to catch these poor folks and provide vast sums of government funding to house and feed them.


22 posted on 03/16/2012 8:44:00 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Blood of Tyrants

A friend of the family had a tough situation to deal with.

Their son had dropped out of college, was living at home, working minimum wage in a restaurant.

The son wanted to move his non-working girlfriend into his bedroom at home!!

The parents said, no way. They said, you can live your life as you want when you are completely on your own. But you will not have a live-in girlfriend in your bedroom here!!

To make a long story short, the son moved in with his non-working girlfriend, and is now supporting her and him. He is on a tight budget. But, the parents say that they have seen a change in their boy. He seems to have learned some life lessons about being responsible for his own life, which he didn’t have when he was still living at home.

The parents are not thrilled about this girlfriend, who seems to have her own issues, nor are they thrilled about their boy living in sin with a girl. But, they saw their son, to coin a phrase, grow up and be a man when he saw what he needed to do, to live his own life as he wanted to.


23 posted on 03/16/2012 8:52:52 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: JCBreckenridge
Remind me what housing prices were in the 50s.

What was the average income in the '50s, and how big was the average house?

I grew up in a three bedroom 800 sq.ft. house, something my parents could afford in 1954. How many of these "young adults" would settle for that? There probably wouldn't be any room for their 50" TV and sound system.

24 posted on 03/16/2012 8:57:27 PM PDT by cayuga (The next Crusade will be a war of annihilation.)
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To: dalereed

Wow - you had one of those high paying jobs. My first one was typing collection letters on a manual typewriter at $.76 an hour. Worked a whole lot harder then than I do now! Still managed to put myself through college with no debt. Eventually got a job for $260 a month. Bought our first house in the early 60’s - brand new 3 bedroom, 2 bath for $28,000 - also bought a new Ford Mustang for $3,000. Life was good.


25 posted on 03/16/2012 9:39:50 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: dewawi

26 posted on 03/16/2012 10:16:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: cayuga

“How many of these “young adults” would settle for that?”

I pay 550 a month for a 10x10 room at present.


27 posted on 03/16/2012 10:39:04 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: dalereed

“I was making $1.75/hr and renting a 2 bedroom home for $65/mo.”

That’s 37 hours of work to pay for a house - not a room.

You were getting paid the equivalent of what would be 14.84 dollars an hour, for what I’m paying for a room. Presumably full time?

How many 14.85 an hour/full time jobs do you see today?

Most of the jobs out there - if they pay that much, are going to pay you part time - say 20 hours a week, or sometimes less.

Or they cut your pay to about half of that and you work full time.

My last part-time job pays me about 10/hr and I only get about 20 hours a week. Still have the full commute. I would much rather work double shifts, I could put in a full weeks work, in 2 days, easily.

And I’m one of the lucky ones who has the job, having taken the job available.

I rest my case.


28 posted on 03/16/2012 10:47:30 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: dewawi

Let’s not forget the free medical coverage for the price of a course at the local community college!


29 posted on 03/16/2012 11:16:46 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Lots of people with once needed degrees are going wanting as well.


30 posted on 03/16/2012 11:18:03 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel
Don't when you grew up, but I grew up in the 40-50’s..most kids stayed in the parents home until marriage. My brother was 25 when he got married and moved out, I was 18. Kids did not move out and get their own apartments..Your starting jobs were low paying and you saved money. My in laws bought their first home after 20 years of marriage and paid cash for it...Apartments were few and far between, there were flats to rent, but not a lot of those...The society was structured a lot different than it is today. No one moved out of our home until marriage and not one was an old maid. We all had jobs while in high school and no one got an allowance. Minimum wage was for teen jobs and to gain experience, until the democrats figured minimum wage was to raise a family on....and used that sorry excuse everytime they raised it....
31 posted on 03/16/2012 11:40:06 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: goat granny
Don't when you grew up, but I grew up in the 40-50’s..most kids stayed in the parents home until marriage. My brother was 25 when he got married and moved out, I was 18. Kids did not move out and get their own apartments..Your starting jobs were low paying and you saved money. My in laws bought their first home after 20 years of marriage and paid cash for it...Apartments were few and far between, there were flats to rent, but not a lot of those...The society was structured a lot different than it is today. No one moved out of our home until marriage and not one was an old maid. We all had jobs while in high school and no one got an allowance. Minimum wage was for teen jobs and to gain experience, until the democrats figured minimum wage was to raise a family on....and used that sorry excuse everytime they raised it....

Thank you for the historic perspective. Society is indeed structured differently these days. It's more anti-marriage and anti-family and more pro- "extended (irresponsible) adolescence." Babies are seen as an annoying side effect of sex. It's disgusting.

32 posted on 03/16/2012 11:46:27 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: dewawi

Yeah, imagine if Bush was still president. Williams would have ripped him a new one being solely responsible for decimating the job market and forcing these yutes to live at home.

It must be great to be a Democrat Party president presiding over a deepening economic Depression and having your own media propaganda arm run interference for you.

If McCain was president, Williams would have screamed “McCain depression forces jobless youths back home!”


33 posted on 03/17/2012 8:23:05 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

I don’t understand your point about “keeping housing prices high”.

Las Vegas is down 65% from peak. A home priced at $200,000 today was worth $600,000 during the peak of the housing boom.

Miami is down 51%.

San Francisco is down 41%.

Los Angeles is down 41%.

Portland Oregon is down 29%.

San Diego is down 40%.

Seattle is down 32%.

Tampa Bay is down 47%.

Who is keeping housing prices high? Where? I think your information is a little bit out of date. Housing prices are down to 2001/02 levels as if the housing boom never happened.


34 posted on 03/17/2012 8:38:45 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
The parents are not thrilled about this girlfriend, who seems to have her own issues, nor are they thrilled about their boy living in sin with a girl.

About 90% of marriages nowadays start with a boy and a girl living in sin before they say "I do".

Times change.

35 posted on 03/17/2012 8:53:06 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: dewawi
After graduating from Brown University in 2009 with a bachelor’s degree in comparative literature and completing a Fulbright scholarship in Brazil, Cassie Owens was left with a few dollars on her stipend and no job in sight.

Really? A degree in comparative literature, and she can't find a job? /sarc

BTW, where DOES one work (above minimum wage, I mean) with a degree like this?

36 posted on 03/17/2012 10:46:01 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (I'm a constitutionalist, not a libertarian. Huge difference.)
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To: JCBreckenridge
I pay 550 a month for a 10x10 room at present.

Damn! Where do you live?

I guess I've been out of the rental market for too long.

37 posted on 03/17/2012 7:37:37 PM PDT by cayuga (The next Crusade will be a war of annihilation.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

“I don’t understand your point about ‘keeping housing prices high’.”

http://dailycapitalist.com/2011/06/01/home-prices-vs-gold-vs-inflation/

That’s the median housing prices adjusted for inflation.

Currently the workforce levels (trough) are at 1983, housing is still about 10 percent overpriced (across the board), and moreso in most jurisdictions.

And that’s not taking into account the fact that corrections tend to overcorrect.

Deflation is just killing the housing market and this thread is evidence as to why. The young people who are supposed to be the market for new houses aren’d buying because they simply aren’t getting jobs that pay enough or give them enough security to want to purchase a home.

Until that changes - housing prices are going to be in frefall until the median is 3x the median income in the US.

Current median housing value is about 165k, and median income in the US is about 51k. So we’d expect that the median housing prices would drop to about 150k or thereabouts.

That would be the correction that has been overdue for some time. However, there are other factors at hand which suggest a permanent decrease in US demand for housing. That is what this article is touching. If housing demand drops, then yes, you’ll see the prices drop even further.

I wouldn’t even touch a house more than 100k right now.


38 posted on 03/17/2012 9:36:17 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: cayuga

I live in Texas at present. I love it here, housing + rental costs are reasonable compared with other jurisdictions.

The reason mine is so high is because that includes utilities on the house - we split the entire bill. Without utilities, it would be a much more reasonable 350 or so.


39 posted on 03/17/2012 9:40:09 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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