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Executive Order: National Defense Resources Preparedness
The White House ^ | 3/16/12 | The White House

Posted on 03/16/2012 11:06:46 PM PDT by ebshumidors

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To: EBH

Idiot really thought all us Irish would be too hung over to “comprehend” his scheme.


401 posted on 03/18/2012 8:40:21 PM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: bgill

Another Arab Spring?


402 posted on 03/18/2012 8:53:49 PM PDT by hummingbird
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To: ebshumidors

This is interesting. Since I posted this early Saturday morning, we’ve had a lot of comments but they have since trailed off. I guess there is a reason for a Friday night doc dump.


403 posted on 03/18/2012 11:22:16 PM PDT by ebshumidors ( Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: bgill
“I’ve been saying for two years his October surprise would come this spring. The first day of spring is Tuesday.”


Rut R’oh...........

404 posted on 03/19/2012 12:53:31 AM PDT by hummingbird
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To: ebshumidors
Ahhhh....you should not feel too bad. You created an Internet firestorm that the elites are now trying to tamp out. Pretty darn good if you ask me. You managed to get people asking, thinking, and raising awareness of how much the stroke of the Presidential pen could change life in our country.

As of this weekend, we have moved the NDRP from acting against emergency 'threats' to this country to acting on the non-emergency 'needs' of this country.

And now that things have slowed down I could not help but think of this scene Directive 10-289

And while places like HotAir etc. attempt to try and fluff this off as a 'standard procedural update;' I will continue to contend the changing of a few words, changed the whole purpose and meaning of the original law to deal threats to the United States.

405 posted on 03/19/2012 3:02:25 AM PDT by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: ebshumidors

Anyone forget this?

“Masses of spy drones set to swarm U.S. skies”

“It was an ironic Valentine’s Day for President Barack Obama as he signed new legislation which allows for an increased prevalence of spy drones in domestic airspace. This is not quite the gift American citizens were looking for from their Commander in Chief, whose signature graced the FAA Reauthorization Act last Tuesday without hesitation.”

“By 2015, it is expected that full-scale testing and licensing of commercial drones will occur, and that by 2020, more than 30,000 of these unmanned spy planes will patrol U.S. skies.”

“The spy drone industry is expanding rapidly, and it won’t be long before American citizens gaze into the sky with certain apprehension as to whether or not the plane they see in the distance has a human pilot in the cockpit.”

http://www.technewsiit.com/story/masses-spy-drones-set-swarm-us-skies


406 posted on 03/19/2012 5:55:07 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: RC2

Bfl


407 posted on 03/19/2012 6:10:10 AM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: mojitojoe
Quote from your DU Quote. It shows that totalitarianism is what the Obama movement is about. Historical analyisis of Obama's politics and mentality shows that he is fascist. Why is that important? We need to know the enemy to defeat him.Fascism can only be defeated using certain methods, for it usurps government from within.

The biggest hurdle is that Obama now has an iron grip on the public media.That grip needs to be destroyed.

Quote: "Need is a ubiquitous concept, threat is a very narrow one in comparison. That is only the second segment. Once you read the whole thing you understand the scope of it is unprecedented, and the very thing we need to neutralize the Conservative agenda, and ell ( sic "all) the obstructionism practiced by the Republican congress."

Note that COngress is no longer exercisioong the process of electoral democracy....rather it is "obstructionist." A mere inconvenience to "true governance." This is how desperate these fascists have become.

This my friend, is Fascism. The Obama movement is NOW no longer Democrat at all. Its fascist.And they all must be destroyed on the anvil of our Republic.This election is our last peaceful or semi peaceful chance. The riots for this summer are now being organiozed by Obama and his community workers.They plan on causing a backlash by patriots across the nation. Unions and minorities will be involved, as well as anarchists.

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408 posted on 03/19/2012 6:28:03 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info.. http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: ebshumidors
Obama Preps for a `Non-Emergency' Named Iran
409 posted on 03/19/2012 6:31:47 AM PDT by opentalk
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cross-reference threads on the EO subject:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2860634/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2860787/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2860573/posts?q=1&;page=1#1

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2860708/posts


410 posted on 03/19/2012 7:25:12 AM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: ebshumidors

We’re in an uproar over the usage of the “non-emergency” wording in obama’s EO. Found this in clinton’s EO:

Sec. 102.

“Policy. The United States must have an industrial and technology

base capable of meeting national defense requirements, and capable of contributing

to the technological superiority of its defense equipment in PEACETIME.

and in times of national emergency. The domestic industrial and technological

base is the foundation for national defense preparedness. The authorities

provided in the Act shall be used to strengthen this base and to ensure

it is capable of responding to all threats to the national security of the

United States.”


So what is the difference between peacetime and non-emergency?


411 posted on 03/19/2012 7:31:55 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: All

I have just gotten off the phone talking to my two Senators’ offices, my Representative’s office, and another Representative’s office in whose district we used to live.

I’m not sure it has done any good because the staff of these people are clueless. Most of them had not read the EO and one who had didn’t seem upset about it. They are all very young and probably indoctrinated and don’t see the problem. I’m not even sure they will bother to pass along my concerns - although the 2 Senators’ staff people did say that I was not the only one who had called about it this morning. I’m going to send e-mails now - hopefully they will not be deleted.


412 posted on 03/19/2012 7:38:21 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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Around February 23 this was news in the world, but did not get reported on in America. I don’t know if it continues today, as I still have not seen news coverage on the subject.

Chile was having riots. They were under a media black out and Gov’t had shut down the internet and cell phones. Links from around the world on the subject:

Second hand account:
http://www.dougsoutdoors.net/forum/topic/76

News report:
http://www.euronews.net/2012/02/23/chile-riots-over-quality-of-life/

News report:
http://www.biobiochile.cl/2012/02/22/nuevamente-carabineros-y-manifestantes-se-enfrentan-en-puente-ibanez-de-coyhaique.shtml

Gov’t travel ban:
https://www.osac.gov/Pages/ContentReportDetails.aspx?cid=12053

News report:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2012/feb/21/chile-protest-santiago-aysen-video

News report:
http://www.santiagotimes.cl/chile/politics/23434-president-sends-ministers-to-chiles-protesting-aysen-region

I posted this info to another thread March 8. One poster followed up with this commment:

The Marxist MSM doesn’t want to alert Americans of what’s awaiting them to FORCE the reelection of 0b0z0 WITHOUT an election. First sign is hopeless REAL polls for 0b0z0.

After the poll alert, these are the steps of communist takeover: cut the communications, start the unrest 0WS/unions’ Reichstag Fire,) declare martial law and disarm the legally armed population.

The playbook above left out the “neutral military.”

JMO.
384 posted on Friday, March 09, 2012 9:36:56 AM by melancholy

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2827536/posts?page=390#390

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Thought this info might be an interesting addition to this thread.


413 posted on 03/19/2012 7:39:53 AM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: Whenifhow; EBH

ping to Chile info. above.

I am using this thread to keep related stuff in one place.


414 posted on 03/19/2012 7:45:30 AM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: melancholy

should have courtesy ping for #413. Sorry I forgot.


415 posted on 03/19/2012 7:50:06 AM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: ebshumidors

Meanwhile, the drumbeat of Bolshevik Dictator Baby-Doc Barak continues to grow louder - - - - .


416 posted on 03/19/2012 7:50:44 AM PDT by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: daisy mae for the usa; Quix; SunkenCiv; pillut48

Thanks for the ping to info about Chile News Blackout

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2860231/posts?page=413#413


417 posted on 03/19/2012 8:00:45 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: daisy mae for the usa

No problem.

Thank you.


418 posted on 03/19/2012 8:19:58 AM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D in L0w and H0lder)
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To: daisy mae for the usa; Whenifhow; EBH; LucyT; little jeremiah; azishot; Fantasywriter; mojitojoe; ..

My turn to forget something!

Forgot to tell you and few FReepers that the Friday EO dump IS the infrastructure “legalese” for the possible communist plan outlined in:

my #384:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2860231/posts?page=384#384

which is included in your #413:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2860231/posts?page=413#413

Freegards.


419 posted on 03/19/2012 8:42:00 AM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D in L0w and H0lder)
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To: ebshumidors

This guy has to go! Good grief!


420 posted on 03/19/2012 8:47:48 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: melancholy; daisy mae for the usa

Ann Barnhardt’s essay
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2860900/posts?page=19#19

Post 5
excerpt:
This may be the real purpose, to make sure ObamaCare is implemented despite being declared unconstitutional.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2860900/posts?page=5#5


421 posted on 03/19/2012 8:52:04 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: nanetteclaret

Being somewhat over looked in this is Obama’s United Nations preference over our Congress and our Constitution. He seems to be preparing for a One Man Show....dictatorship. Eric Holder does as he pleases in the Justice Department; Leon Panetta has gone from Bill Clinton’s Chief of Staff to Obama’s CIA Director and now Obama’s Secretary of Defense....it sickens me to think that General Petraeus is party to this cabal to overthrow America, I would expect it of the Clinton’s, Holder, Axelrod, Jarrett, Van Jones, Professor Gates, Soros and others.


422 posted on 03/19/2012 8:57:40 AM PDT by yoe
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To: Whenifhow; Aevery_Freeman; daisy mae for the usa; LucyT; little jeremiah; azishot; Fantasywriter; ..
Thanks for the links.

restore the physical or mental health conditions of the population.”

The Soviets used to put the dissidents in mental institutions. At the time, you would have been deemed crazy to oppose the communist regime. Made sense, eh? /s

This regime is preparing to take care of "crazy" opposition the same way rather than arguing with them! All that needs to be done is that the MSM labels anyone of the opposition crazy, as the communists always do, but when the thugs are ready, Commissar Sibelius now has the authority to haul the dissident to the 0b0z0Care free mental utopia!

Am I paranoid? Haul me away!

423 posted on 03/19/2012 9:53:39 AM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D in L0w and H0lder)
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bttt


424 posted on 03/19/2012 9:55:16 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: chessplayer
30,000 of these unmanned spy planes will patrol U.S. skies

Unmanned until they're not.

425 posted on 03/19/2012 10:55:12 AM PDT by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: chessplayer
30,000 of these unmanned spy planes will patrol U.S. skies

Blah, meant to say armed.

426 posted on 03/19/2012 10:55:41 AM PDT by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: nanetteclaret
Most of them had not read the EO

No one ever reads anything these days. Throw in a paragraph directing all Senators to clean my birdcage every hour on the hour and it'd still be signed. If one did happen to read it and vote no, there'd be a backlash from all the bird lovers forcing him to sign. No one in DC has any backbone.

427 posted on 03/19/2012 11:03:14 AM PDT by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: reagandemocrat

AMEN!! But he is a dispicable, dangerous Idiot as well!!
Just wanted to amplify your great comment!!!


428 posted on 03/19/2012 11:15:19 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: melancholy
Am I paranoid? Haul me away!

Haul YOU away? Look behind you. That's me being hauled away, too. I thought all along that our republican congressmen and presidential candidates would be "looking out for us" (or is that Ted Baxter's job?). P.S. Thanks for the pings.

429 posted on 03/19/2012 12:21:04 PM PDT by azishot
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To: azishot

LOL!

Don’t sell yourself short!


430 posted on 03/19/2012 1:11:17 PM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D in L0w and H0lder)
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To: chessplayer
So what is the difference between peacetime and non-emergency?

You ask a very good question. One should ask why the word change at all? If they are truly synonymous...why change it? I noted the change between the word 'threat' and it has been changed to 'need,' as well.

So define "peacetime?" period without war: a time when there is no war, In politics, peacetime is defined as any period of time where there are no violent conflicts occurring.

Define non-emergency: not being or requiring emergency care

The word change one deals with violent conflicts and war. Non-emergency deals with domestic matters.

I think we all understood the previous orders were there in the event of war. Threat as the EO from Clinton calls it. Hence, the word peacetime as the opposite. But now the tone is changed to "need" and "non-emergency."

This is internal to take control vs. taking control to deal with a 'threat.'

431 posted on 03/19/2012 1:23:51 PM PDT by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: sport
The sheep may make a few baaing sounds, but nothing significant.

I agree with you.

432 posted on 03/19/2012 1:53:12 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: EBH

Excellent points. Thanks. I brought it up because on another board someone brought up clinton’s EO and pointed out the word peacetime and claimed it was the same as obama’s changing it to non-emergency. I wondered about that too. If peacetime and non-emergency are the same, obama didn’t have to change the wording. Yet he did. One seemingly innocuous word change can completely alter a dolcument.


433 posted on 03/19/2012 3:18:42 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: melancholy
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434 posted on 03/19/2012 4:03:30 PM PDT by LucyT
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bttt


435 posted on 03/19/2012 5:11:38 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: ebshumidors; EBH; Travis McGee; Candor7; daisy mae for the usa

http://www.fema.gov/about/employees/femacorps.shtm

On March 13, 2012, the White House announced an innovative partnership between the Department of Homeland Security’s Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and the Corporation for National and Community Service (CNCS) to establish a FEMA-devoted unit of 1,600 service corps members within AmeriCorps National Civilian Community Corps (NCCC) solely devoted to disaster preparedness, response, and recovery. This partnership builds on the historic collaboration between the two agencies and will enhance the federal government’s disaster capabilities, increase the reliability and diversity of the disaster workforce, promote an ethic of service, expand education and economic opportunity for young people, and achieve significant cost savings for the American taxpayer. When the program is at full operational capability, and in an average disaster year, we expect to see a savings of approximately $60 million in a year.

Every year, millions of Americans suffer the effects of natural and man-made disaster. Disasters can lead to human losses, social problems, economic harm, and environmental damage. Given the prevalence and severity of disasters and other hazards, FEMA is looking for ways to diversify and fortify its existing disaster workforce structure. FEMA will partner with CNCS to support 1,600 additional service corps members annually within AmeriCorps NCCC, a full-time residential service program for individuals ages 18-24. The FEMA Corps members will be solely focus on disaster preparedness, response, and recovery activities, providing support in areas ranging from working directly with disaster survivors to supporting disaster recovering centers to sharing valuable disaster preparedness and mitigation information with the public.

The FEMA Corps members will serve for a 10 month term with an option to extend for a second year. The program will prepare thousands of young people for careers in emergency management and related fields. During their service, they will gain significant training and experience in disaster services and will provide important support to disaster survivors. The first members will begin serving in August 2012 and the program will reach full capacity within 18 months.


This may not be related to the EO—— not a large number being hired (at least in this first round), but maybe it is something that should be watched ????? Very interesting timing, anyway...


436 posted on 03/19/2012 8:27:00 PM PDT by boxlunch
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To: boxlunch
Isn't it interesting that in a few short years our cautious concern with Washington DC has gone to outright distrust?

Even democrats and liberals would have to admit, while they may have hated Bush, they knew in their hearts he would not cross the rubicon.

But with this crop that came on board with 0bama's election in 2008 we've learned very quickly that what they appear to be doing, is not what they are actually doing. We've learned the appearances that mean everything, actually mean nothing.

I do not think there has ever been a President that has invoked so much distrust, fear, and paranoia than 0bama. I long have watched that when liberals 'worried about the worst' in a Republican...it later turns out it is the Democrat that actually makes their worries come true. Liberals/progressives project onto to others their fears and miss it is they who are their own enemies.

Will these 1600 make a big difference during a hurricane response? Or how about an earthquake? Will this program improve FEMA response time?

They claim this program is going to save $60 million a year. Interesting. What professionals are they eliminating? Americorp people get a living stipend at a residential setting. They do not get paid per se. They get education awards, which can be used for college or to pay-off student loans. Even the Vista program only pays $100 per month.

This appears to be a weakening of FEMA disaster response. In order to save $60 million, who/what is being eliminated at the professional level? This is basically a draft of young people into direct government service without appropriate compensation.

Uh? Sounds like something from an EO we just read about?

But more realistically, this is a compounded disaster in the making. Folks better make sure they can take care of themselves for more than 72 hours ...

437 posted on 03/20/2012 4:28:15 AM PDT by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: Linda Frances

Threat against the people?

That would be the Federal government.


438 posted on 03/20/2012 5:09:48 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Rashputin

Wow, someone with a little common sense. This E.O. in fact is just a routine revision, changing which departments handle what and updating definitaions like what all is considered “energy” since we have some new forms now. And eliminating FEMA from the plan, probably because of the wonderful job they did with Katrina and other recent disasters (sarcasm).

If you follow the document trail listed in this E.O., you will find that all this stuff, including resource management and labor without compensation, was actually enacted by previous presidents. In fact, Ronald Reagan wrote E.O. 12656 which stated that the executive branch had the power to control the country’s resources and even gave the Department of Defense the job of controlling all of the water supply.

Executive Order 12656 of November 18, 1988

“PART 2-General Provisions

Sec. 203. Resource Management. The head of each Federal department and agency, as appropriate within assigned areas of responsibility, shall:

(4) Develop plans to set priorities and allocate resources among civilian and military claimants; “

“PART 5-Department of Defense

Sec. 501. Lead Responsibilities. In addition to the applicable responsibilities covered in Parts 1 and 2, the Secretary of Defense shall:

(6) Acting through the Secretary of the Army, develop, with the concurrence of the heads of all affected departments and agencies, overall plans for the management, control, and allocation of all usable waters from all sources within the jurisdiction of the United States.”

You guys should all know by now that you cannot simply read one government document and have all the necessary information to make a decision or pass judgement.


439 posted on 03/21/2012 1:01:31 AM PDT by Swoop4321
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2 Timothy 3:13

"But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived."


440 posted on 03/25/2012 10:22:40 AM PDT by 444Flyer (~Leaning on the everlasting arms~ (Deuteronomy 33:27) (John 3))
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; TigerLikesRooster; Red in Blue PA; originalbuckeye; blam; Quix; Alamo-Girl; ...
The time to wake up is long over . . .

Steve Quayle May 9 2012 (2 of 8)

441 posted on 06/12/2012 9:34:49 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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