Skip to comments.Birth Control Mandate to Apply to Self-Insuring Religious Groups
Posted on 03/17/2012 5:42:31 AM PDT by reaganaut1
WASHINGTON The Obama administration took another step on Friday to enforce a federal mandate for health insurance coverage of contraceptives, announcing how the new requirement would apply to the many Roman Catholic hospitals, universities and social service agencies that insure themselves.
In such cases, the administration said, female employees and students will still have access to free coverage of contraceptives.
The coverage will be provided by the companies that review and pay claims third-party administrators or by some other independent entity, it said.
Kathleen Sebelius, the secretary of health and human services, said the government would guarantee women access to contraceptives while accommodating religious liberty interests.
The new proposal escalates the election-year fight over the administrations birth control policy.
President Obama had previously announced what he described as an accommodation for religiously affiliated organizations that buy commercial insurance but object, for religious reasons, to covering contraceptives and sterilization procedures. In these cases, the White House said, the insurer will be required to provide contraception coverage to women free of charge.
On Friday, the Department of Health and Human Services went a step further and said it would propose a similar requirement for group health plans sponsored by religious organizations that insure themselves.
The new proposal did not mollify Republicans in Congress.
Its a Washington accounting gimmick, Representative Jeff Fortenberry, Republican of Nebraska, said Friday in an interview. The administration is twisting itself in all directions to expand the accommodation for faith-based institutions. Why is it the governments role to decide who gets an accommodation? The White House is creating an unnecessary political firestorm.
Mr. Fortenberry has introduced a bill to let certain employers and insurers opt out of the mandate for contraceptive coverage. More than 220 House members have signed on as co-sponsors.
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(1) He's ignorant of history,
(2) He's stupid and thuggish,
(3) He's been paid off ~ or
(4) All of the above.
5 seconds to select the best answer(s).
If a Catholic hospital self insures, the third party administrator is the Catholic hospital, which is the reason for self insurance in the first place, to not pay others to do what you can do, and do it cheaper.
This "gimmick" isn't even much of a gimmick as institutions that self insure saw through the smoke screen as soon as this piece of nonsense was "Friday night dumped".
The problem for HHS and katy see-bully-us, is that once people started to pay attention to this First Amendment assault, we started to pay attention and we can read and understand English, no matter how they try to twist it.
All this fool is doing is contributing to his defeat in November. All the crap that is going on and THIS is a priority to this fool? Freakin CONDOMS? Please Obama, keep doing it. How about making Playstations mandatory next? Or that bunnies must wear pancakes on their heads?
Obama will lose this fight. We Catholics are dug in on this. And I believe our brother Christians (at least some of them), as well as some of our Jewish friends, are with us on this.
Free sterilization procedures for women and free morning after pills—
anything on the FDA approved list are included in “preventative services.”
Why is the federal government mandating colleges for free sterilization
procedures to women? These college women are between 17-23 usually.
They have their whole life in front of them.
And we are sterilizing them as part of “preventative services”????
These people are sick in the head. They are morally depraved and evil
to power this through with no thought of anyone else.
When President Zeus speaks from atop Mt. Olympus we mere mortals must obey.
Yawn. This is an end around on obamacare. They are looking to poke a hole somewhere when it goes before SCOTUS.
There is a motive here which is more then going after the church.
There are so many layers of wicked to this it’s hard to know where to begin...
Does this law only apply to women? Do men get free condoms?
What about places like BYU, where unmarried students promise to follow an honor code that makes birth control unnecessary?
Why, oh why didn’t all the liberal asshats’ parents practice aboertion?????
I can only conclude that Obama is actually trying to foment some kind of violent uprising of the people so that he can declare Marshall law and cancel the next election.
He is pushing this country towards a Civil War.
As long as it is about condoms and a woman's access to free birth control Obama wins the argument. Make it about Obama trampling on the Constitution and human rights; Obama loses.
"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
-- James Madison, the father of the United States Constitution
Don’t underestimate him. It’s not a matter of ignorance, stupidity, or a payoff, but of Obama’s arrogance and intolerance. All evidence indicates that Obama: is non-religious; views the thoughts and values of “religious” people as a dimwitted nullity; believes government knows better than its “subjects”; and, thinks the US Constitution and individual liberty are problems to be overcome.
I suspect this deliberately obvious jihad against religious liberty and conscience is an electoral strategy to avoid economics and push “social issues” to the fore. These issues fire up the Santorum voters, thus dividing the Republicans and wasting Romney’s campaign resources. O’s dream scenario would be a third party candidacy to siphon off the evangelical vote. Knowing he will never get the right-wing Christian vote, he wants to use their fury to scare and motivate his otherwise turned off constituents. Using the Republican’s inherent divisions to destroy themselves reflects the cynical talent for electioneering that we saw triumph in 2008.
I am deeply concerned that the USSC is going to give this Marxist filth what he wants on Health Care based on their stance on cameras and audio for the proceedings.
Of course they will not allow cameras as cockroaches never like the light of day shown on them AND you have to know for certain the FIX IS IN as the USSC will not release the audio for 2 hours.
Now just what do you expect to take place in that 2 hour gap? Are they just going to remove some lawyer or black robed political hacks burps or passing of gas or will they do what I know they are going to do and that is remove any evidence of how the USSC, in collusion with this Marxist government, will circumvent the US Constitution and force us to buy something we may not want.
Only a corrupt government needs a 2 hour waiting period to hear what goes on in this case as it is certainly not a National Security Issue.
We are being set up to believe the USSC will insure we have the protections guaranteed by the Constitution when the exact opposite is true, of that I am positive.
If we cannot have light shown on these Marxist cockroaches then at least let us hear what is being done to us IN REAL TIME.
Maybe we need people of character like from the Battle of Athens to surround the USSC. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_0bXK-QU0E
Thanks to a fellow freeper cripplecreek I only learned of this a couple of days ago even though it occurred in 1946.
I doubt it. One he strongly believes this is what’s good for us, as does Sebelius. Two, he is trying to pick off liberal/moderate women....AND the youth vote by not only buying their vote, but making it a “war on women” fight.
Noone is taking away the right to take contraception, and with the price of generic, it’s quite doable for most women/families.
These “freebies” aren’t free. Everyone who has private insurance will see their rates go up or coverage go down, once again, from this latest free “preventative” coverage. These women probably don’t mind because they are getting something “free” that others in their plans are subsidizing. ......AND, once you make it “free”, then people want the “best” which they think is the most expensive. (After researching about BC when this mandate was made, the older BC pills (which are cheaper) actually seem to be safer than the newer varieties offered.)
Way too many women view this issue like the abortion issue. They don’t want anyone having any control over their bodies, especially when it comes to issues specifically dealing with reproduction. Noone is taking away this right; all that is happening is that Big Health is making others subsdize and support it. Money, giving up moral principle, and the freedom of a private company to offer what it chooses, is what these women are demanding from others when they get on obama’s “war on women” bandwagon.
Yes, definitely. November is just around the corner!!!
His internal polling must be awful that he feels the need to do this now. For a Democrat incumbent to have to stoop to this before an election to guarantee the liberal women vote- he is doing very badly.
What you said!
Obama’s trying to start a civil war...what a moron.
I seriously wonder if Obama has ever in his life had a discussion with anyone about the meaning of “conscience.”
He isn’t really a moron. He just keeps pushing and pushing...hoping there will be an uprising so he can implement Marshall Law and suspend elections - indefinitely.
That’s my take on this.
“I can only conclude that Obama is actually trying to foment some kind of violent uprising of the people so that he can declare Marshall law and cancel the next election.
He is pushing this country towards a Civil War.”
I agree with you. Completely. this ghetto fairy is desperately pulling everything out of Reggies rectum to push us to the point of insurrection.
But we are not of the Chicago style ilk that you are used to dealing with. We are patient and decent people and will bide our time until YOU ARE GONE.
T H E N
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Y O U.
We’ve become a dictatorship. The constitution is barely relevant and the Congress is deadlocked and bypassed and the voting is driven by a bought media and fraud.
I can’t believe how fast this is happening. And where are the mobs of people screaming out that our freedom is being dismantled??? Watching the very media meant to distract us, trying to scrape together an existence, buying into the lies of the charismatic communist front man.
Most people, I think, don’t have a clue how dead serious this is.
Presumably these religious affiliated groups will also be forced to pay the $1 per month surcharge to fund abortions.
“They dont want anyone having any control over their bodies, especially when it comes to issues specifically dealing with reproduction.”
Both true and ironic, since ObamaCare puts government bureaucrats in control of all our bodies, their reproductive issues included. They don’t realize that ObamaCare can’t coexist constitutionally with Roe v Wade (which ruled that government has no power to interfere in private healthcare).
We will have to participate in this nation’s immorality, like it or not, or resist, regardless the consequences. Catholics, as well as all Christians, need to take a good look at how the left intends to trample on them. This is just the beginning.
Bingo and well said.
No longer a Catholic, but an unashamed Christian. Our non-denominational Pastor broke from our study of Acts to hold a session on what Jesus meant when He told us to submit to those placed above us because they wouldn't be there without God's permission. He went on and explained how disobedience is not only OK, but expected when the rules tell us to go against God's Will.
“Its a Washington accounting gimmick, Representative Jeff Fortenberry, Republican of Nebraska, said Friday in an interview. “
To call this an accounting gimmick conseles the fact that is is a baldfaced lye to the American people. Obama acts like were stupid like the people we pay to provide a service for us have their own money from which to give that service without charging us.
If that were the case they wouldn’t need to charge us at all.
The attack on religion is part of the agenda, weaken or destroy religious institutions.To the left there is no good or evil. there is only varying shades of gray. That is also satan’s desire hence religion must be weakened and then destroyed.
Now I’m sure that there are those who are tired of my bringing up that communist/socialist stuff, you should see some of the other forums I haunt, but that is who has been working towards this point for over one hundred years. They now believe they have finished accumulating power and are over the hump and it is now all down hill consolidation of power, that is why they are so much out in the open.
Now is when they eliminate their most vocal adversaries. next is the useful idiots and unmarked graves.
How does this administration get such a free pass to rule by presidential proclamation?
Is there no Congress, or SCOTUS any longer?
His minions come scampering out to announce his proclamations, and all of a sudden it’s as if current law has changed? Who changed it? What legislation was passed?
This whole blow-out concerning contraceptives and who shall pay for them, what new legislation was passed? Why are insurances companies, church organizations, and other entities having to deal with this?
Just because Obama has spoken? B. S.
Where are McConnel and Boehner? I’ve never seen anything like this in my lifetime.
I agree with you. obozo is pushing, nudging, REQUIRING us to do as he says. He is becoming extreme, and he hopes this will inflame We the People to rile up against him BEFORE the elections.
Know what motivates this ahole in the White House, and handle yourselves accordingly. We the People also have a goal, just like obozo, and it's up to us to make sure we succeed in November.
What WILL it take to save the vote of We the People from communists, marxists, sociaists, revolutionaries, New Black Panther Party thugs, leftist union thugs, obozo zombie supporters....?
Watch the video and pass it on.
"They dont realize that ObamaCare cant coexist constitutionally with Roe v Wade (which ruled that government has no power to interfere in private healthcare)."
This brother Christian and every Jewish person I know is dug in as well. Hell, if you want “free” contraception, go wait in line at the County “free” clinic. They have every vaccination, every pill, every condom available already “free”. They’ll also send you down to Planned Parenthood for “free” abortions.
This is a BLATANT assault on Religion of any kind EXCEPT freaking Islam!
So the Obama administration makes the pronouncement.
What happens if the Catholic hospitals and universities tell the administration to take a flying leap? Even if they get some court (even the USSC) to say they have to? What can the administration do to the institutions to make them?
Serious question - why do people accept their authority to make such pronouncements? What power do they actually have to enforce it?