Skip to comments.Why the ‘Strategists’ Are Wrong About a Brokered Convention.
Posted on 03/17/2012 8:34:10 PM PDT by true believer forever
Along with the realization that Conservatives can win in a Conservative-leaning country, comes the ugly truth that the establishment Republican apparatus is just like the Chicago politician more concerned with maintaining power and selecting candidates than doing the hard work of administering to a bottom-up organization such as the Republican Party was chartered to be.
Todays Republican establishment is, for all practical purposes, a mirror (or converse) image of the Democrat Party; an organization structured from the top-down. This power-hoarding of the hierarchy is evidenced by the ridiculous move to award convention delegates proportionately, a move more in line with the abolition of the Electoral College than with the preservation of the Republic.
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Nothing is clear to me right now. It’s late. I’m tired and I can’t think right now. I’m drinking tea trying to catch a second wind.
Are you ready for a showdown?
I’m down for it. Heck; I’m down for a Revolution.
I’m not sure what to make of that. I guess it’s confusing at times because the movement is decentralized. Some Tea Party people go one way. Some seem to go the other. I am upset when I hear that politicians that got Tea Party backing have basically sold out. It also upsets me to hear Romney etc. are using money to gain influence within the movement.
Matt...things are going to get very interesting as this moves along now....Louisanna is a halfway mark....and then all will break loose for the mad dash to convention...course I could be wrong but Romneys cash is dwindling fighting this thing....and I just chuckle how Newt got him to spend his money in Florida opposing him...hahahaha! Millions down the tube now!!
It’s awful hard not to imagine Newt and Santorum are playing hand in glove on this Primary.
I have this on MP3 and listen to it often. Zamzar.com is an online conversion site, which means no software. You put in any URL, they download and convert it for you, and notify you by email when it's ready for you to download. The quality is maybe 2 steps below really really good quality. but with good speakers or headphones, it is really good. It goes right into my Itunes.
Thanks very much. The establishment needs to to be shut down here. They’re in control. This primary is proving that much. Sarah Palin got no support and Newt Gingrich hasn’t either.
Reagan, to my knowledge (I was quite young), ran within the Republican Party. He wasn’t from the establishment wing. He belonged to the Goldwater anti establishment wing. I don’t think he ever ran a true third party campaign (as in outside the two main parties).
Yes, just from my little bit of experience, the moral conservatives are just that, interested only in moral issues, which is where Santorum captures them.
As for me, if there is a President in DC taking care of the economy, realigning this country with its original purposes and ideals, including religious liberty, which I think is different from individual morality, that should free a lot of people up to take care of the moral issues, church to community, heart to heart...
Santorum and his supporters are blind to these 2 things, which other Freepers taught me: if you open the door of govt to religious influence, that door swings both ways. And Santorum is going to divide this country with his moral issues, the same way barack did with racial issues. The divide is something we don't need. This battlefield is the human heart. Santorum is such a schmuck.
And that’s the downside of running an anti establishment campaign within the party. Money. Organization. A party apparatus that makes rules to make it difficult (in fact they even change the rules when it looks like they may lose).
So, is there some historic reference where this was accomplished some time ago? Or I am thinking it has likely never been done before...
I don’t want to cast aspersions on people, or make this a conversation about Rick Santorum. I am a social conservative, but for me the ultimate family values are putting food on the table for my family, putting a roof over their heads, and clothes on their backs.
I want to hear other people`s opinions about 3rd parties, or running within the existing Republican Party, or..............
Mr. Newt is already calling on Romney and Santorum to stop the negative ads and concentrate on their own positive visions. Mr. Newt is the leading voice in this strategy and I would urge your candidate of choice to do the same. Show us your visions for America and past achievements in which accomplish those visions. Stop the ridicule of each other and focus only on defeating Obama.
Mr. Newt is already being called a whiner for suggesting that Romney and Santorum stop the negative ads. Mr. Newt is already working toward this very strategy. The Tea Party could make all the difference, but they too are split. How they could be supporting Romney is beyond me. When push comes to shove, I think they will support a Gingrich/Palin candidacy and that would indeed be a gift to WE THE PEOPLE. GOD help us achieve this goal!
“Are you ready for a showdown? You betcha!”
I feel that this showdown must come this year, or this party will collapse under its own defeat!
GINGRICH/PALIN 2012...IT MUST BE!
A historic reference for what?
I’m right with you.
For flipping the party without leaving it...from the inside or by effective successful pressure from the outside.
I am starting to see how this is all so much like when Newt was in the House, and why he made so many enemies.
By historic, I also meant, something like this I got from a friend of mine - Newt often talks in dog whistles for conservatives, and I am just learning to hear them:
My most recent email to my state volunteers:
Many of you may have heard Newt mention Leonard Wood and the 1920 Republican Convention, the last one to really be "brokered", but more specifically because he cited Romney as the weakest front runner since Leonard Wood. Who was Wood? He was the Army Chief of Staff, and Physician and Graduate of Harvard Medical School. (Interesting coincidence? He died in 1927 in Boston.) A football star and coach at Georgia Tech, and winner of the Medal of Honor.
Pretty impressive, huh?
Going in to the convention, Wood was unquestionably the favorite, particularly after winning the New Hampshire primaries. But in irony of ironies, he never got above about 31% of the delegate votes.
He topped out in the middle rounds, 6, 7 and 8 but then in the 9th and 10th ballots, a winner emerged. That winner received only about 6% of the vote until the 8th ballot when finally his numbers rose.
On the 10th ballot, the GOP nominated Warren Harding.
Some of you may not know Harding, others may remember him for The Teapot Dome scandal.
However, that is not what I know Harding for. He was not responsible for Tea Pot Dome, but what he unquestionably WAS responsible for was ending the Depression of 1920.
I have to believe Newt knew the parallels of his reference, but to give you some brief information.
Woodrow Wilson, who President Obama most closely resembles, despised the Constitution, felt that the US should subjugate itself to his newly created League of Nations, and worse, passed the 16th Amendment, the income tax amendment.
Wilson's Progressive policies put us in a Depression that led to almost 12% unemployment. His income tax rates combined with the Tariff Bills of 1913 stifled the economy. Worse, the government grew exponentially under his watch.
So, what did the wild underdog in the GOP convention do when he became President? He slashed the income tax!!! The result? A huge increase in revenue for the government.
More importantly however, he gave his cabinet clear orders. Cut your departments - cut, not slow the growth of - by 25% this year, and another 25% next year.
Harding slashed government by almost 50% and led us right into the roaring '20's and an unprecedented boom. Sadly, he died before he could complete his work, and the next Progressive, Herbert Hoover, helped lead us into the Depression. He raised taxes after the crash and forced government into the private sector and with huge public works projects. Of course, Hoover learned his lesson and later became a major critic of the New Deal. Too bad he had not learned the lessons of his predecessors, Harding, the 10th ballot nominee, and his Vice President "Silent Cal" Calvin Coolidge.
Is any of this sounding like a blueprint?
Maybe THIS is why you support Newt. Or maybe he didn't' remember this when he mentioned Leonard Wood and I have just picked up on the strange connections?
But, the parallels are almost eery.
Romney had TWO piles of money to start with- donated money, and his own personal wealth, in the hundreds of millions. IIRC, Romney did get into self-financing his 2008 run- but I don't know if he is spending his personal stash this time (yet). I often wonder how significant LDS money is in this process.
- > I have this on MP3 and listen to it often. Zamzar.com is an online conversion site, which means no software.
Thank you, true believer forever...
okay, I'm sorry. I brought him up in terms of the moral candidate, whom the Tparty is following, and taking their eyes off the original impetus of their movement, fiscal conservatism.. the fact remains the TParty is losing its way if they are supporting Santorum as a fiscal conservative...
Pray for it!