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Marco Rubio: I Won't Tell Newt to Drop Out
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Posted on 03/18/2012 9:10:06 PM PDT by Fred

U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio, a leading vice presidential favorite for many Republicans, says he doesn’t think that Newt Gingrich or anybody else should be told to quit the contentious GOP presidential race.

In an interview with the Tampa Bay Times, Rubio said he’s not concerned about presidential process dragging on too long, and that the election will be “reframed” once the Republicans have their candidate.

“I don’t think anybody should be told to drop out,” Rubio said. “I think people should run until they feel that either they don’t want to continue or they don’t see a path to victory. I’ve never [believed] in asking people to drop out of a race because I had a bunch of people ask me to drop out of a race.”

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: florida; gingrich; kenyanbornmuzzie; marcorubio; mittromney; newtgingrich; ricksantorum; rubio; santorum

1 posted on 03/18/2012 9:10:15 PM PDT by Fred
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To: Fred

A-friggin-men.


2 posted on 03/18/2012 9:17:43 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: Fred

For someone who endorsed Romney this is not a neutral opinion.


3 posted on 03/18/2012 9:18:06 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

He did not endorse Romney. But he is wrong about Myth, he most certainly is like Charlie Crist but worse.


4 posted on 03/18/2012 9:24:31 PM PDT by Fred (http://whenmittromneycametotown.com)
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To: Fred

Rubio is not a Natural Born Citizen.


5 posted on 03/18/2012 9:26:58 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

No, he is not. You are correct, but a lot of FReepers think he is. He is 100% vetted as not elgible to hold the office of President of the United States of America. To bad for me ‘cause I like the man.


6 posted on 03/18/2012 9:37:32 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired high up in the mountains of the American Redoubt and it doesn't get any better than that!)
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To: Fred

He did hammer Newt for his anti-Romney ads but was quite okay with the flurry of anti-Gingrich ads in FL by Romney.
http://race42012.com/2012/01/25/rubio-rips-gingrich-again/


7 posted on 03/18/2012 9:41:09 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

Makes sense since he’s helping Romney by encouraging vote-splitting by the conservatives, which will help Romney come out on top of the vote in some winner-take-all contests and keep a conservative from getting over 50% in other contests, which could have triggered winner-take-all rules that take delegates from Romney.


8 posted on 03/18/2012 9:49:11 PM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: Fred
PAUL RYAN FOR PRESIDENT
What you see is what you get.. No illusions!
9 posted on 03/18/2012 9:49:27 PM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: Steelfish

For someone who endorsed Romney this is not a neutral opinion.
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When did he endorse Romney? It would have to have been very recently because up until yesterday, he had NOT endorsed anyone. Can you site a source for that please?


10 posted on 03/18/2012 9:54:40 PM PDT by no dems (Take it to Tampa: Palin / Ryan or Palin / Rubio in 2012)
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
PAUL RYAN FOR PRESIDENT
11 posted on 03/18/2012 9:57:42 PM PDT by no dems (Take it to Tampa: Palin / Ryan or Palin / Rubio in 2012)
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To: Fred

But Marco doesn’t have the Nads to support him tho.. EH!..


12 posted on 03/18/2012 10:01:46 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Fred

NO ONE is worse than Charlie Crist, well, except maybe Arlen Specter.....


13 posted on 03/18/2012 10:16:26 PM PDT by Adams (Fight on!)
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To: Fred

Rubio won’t get the VP nod if Romney is nominated because the GOP Establishment fears that Rubio could be another Palin. I believe that they will “play it safe” and go with Susana Martinez or someone like her.


14 posted on 03/18/2012 10:18:11 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Romney barely won in OH with a 12-1 money advantage, he can't beat Obama that way.)
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To: Thunder90

Rubio cannot get the VP nod—if he cannot run for President, he cannot run as Vice-President.


15 posted on 03/18/2012 10:23:31 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Arthur McGowan
"Rubio is not a Natural Born Citizen."

Goog grief.

Not THIS crap again.

Hank

16 posted on 03/18/2012 10:44:27 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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To: no dems

Romney was “endorsed in practice if not in declaration.”

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/01/25/rubio-to-romneys-rescue/


17 posted on 03/18/2012 10:56:33 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Rubio is not a Natural Born Citizen.

But Barack Hussein Obama is? If Hussein is ruling from the White House, and neither congress or SCOTUS seems to be doing anything about it, what convinces you they will rule Rubio ineligible based on NBC criterion? We know for sure Hussein's father was not a citizen of USA.
18 posted on 03/18/2012 11:00:28 PM PDT by entropy12 (Republicans do not hate, that is a monopoly of democrats.)
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To: entropy12
Marco Rubio

born May 28, 1971 in Miami, FL (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Mario Rubio born in Cuba, naturalized Nov. 5, 1975.
Oria Garcia born in Cuba, naturalized Nov. 5, 1975.

Parents were NOT US Citizens at the time of his birth (Does NOT meet the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Marco Rubio is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

Marco's status is the same as that of Barry Soetoro, aka Barack Hussein Obama, who is NOT a Natural Born Citizen.

19 posted on 03/18/2012 11:14:33 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: ASA Vet

If congress and SCOTUS have done NOTHING to question Obama’s NBC qualifier, what convinces you they will question Rubio’s NBC status? I am sure you are well aware those two are the highest ranking institutions on the NBC question. Or is it someone else?


20 posted on 03/18/2012 11:21:03 PM PDT by entropy12 (Republicans do not hate, that is a monopoly of democrats.)
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To: ASA Vet

He’s as much an American citizen as my children who were born in the United States of a forgein born mother. And he can run for President, or be selected as Vice President and your interpretation of the issue is not going to change that.


21 posted on 03/18/2012 11:24:16 PM PDT by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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To: ASA Vet
Parents were NOT US Citizens at the time of his birth (Does NOT meet the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Drool on.

Your cockamamie definition of NBC will not suffice to remove the current president.

Nor should it have anything to do with whom we might select to go up against him or his ilk.

22 posted on 03/18/2012 11:35:13 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: ASA Vet

Thank you.


23 posted on 03/18/2012 11:37:03 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Greenpees; entropy12

We’re not discussing citizenship when the subject is ‘natural born citizen’.

Three types of citizenship are recognized by our government: native born; naturalized; and citizen-by-statute. All have equal rights. All can serve in Congress, either as a Representative in the House, or as a Senator in the Senate.

The following link will take you to the government’s own Immigration Service web page describing the three types of citizenship.
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD

Natural Born Citizen is NOT a type of statutory citizenship as per the Federal Government. Natural Born is ONLY an eligibility requirement for the U.S. Presidency per Article II, Section 1, clause 5, of the U.S. Constitution, and requires, as per the Founders, the President to be born in the United States (jus solis) AND of citizen parents (jus sanguinas).

No one has the RIGHT to be President. The eligibility requirement of Natural Born Citizenship (jus solis + jus sanguinas: born in the U.S. of U.S. citizen parents) must be viewed as a means to prevent split allegiance for any President of the United States.


24 posted on 03/18/2012 11:39:58 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: SatinDoll; DoughtyOne
SatinDoll wrote: “We’re not discussing citizenship when the subject is ‘natural born citizen’.

Three types of citizenship are recognized by our government: native born; naturalized; and citizen-by-statute. All have equal rights. All can serve in Congress, either as a Representative in the House, or as a Senator in the Senate.

The following link will take you to the government’s own Immigration Service web page describing the three types of citizenship.
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD

Natural Born Citizen is NOT a type of statutory citizenship as per the Federal Government. Natural Born is ONLY an eligibility requirement for the U.S. Presidency per Article II, Section 1, clause 5, of the U.S. Constitution, and requires, as per the Founders, the President to be born in the United States (jus solis) AND of citizen parents (jus sanguinas).

No one has the RIGHT to be President. The eligibility requirement of Natural Born Citizenship (jus solis + jus sanguinas: born in the U.S. of U.S. citizen parents) must be viewed as a means to prevent split allegiance for any President of the United States.”

MY COMMENT: Doughty, FYI Look at this post and follow the link. You will see that (born in the U.S.A of citizen parents is the requirement.

GOOD POST SatinDoll!! Furthermore if the GOP would require the eligibility issue to be settled for it's candidates the the media would have to cover it and the general public would become informed.

Cheers:>) EasyDoesIt

25 posted on 03/19/2012 12:23:21 AM PDT by eazdzit (Practicing islam should be TREASON? WE need a 3rd Party. NEWT/PALIN in 2012)
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To: SatinDoll

Thank you for the detailed response. However the discussion is not one of US citizenship. Your linked article clearly states that as follows:

“To become a citizen at birth, you must:

Have been born in the United States or certain territories or outlying possessions of the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States; OR
had a parent or parents who were citizens at the time of your birth (if you were born abroad) and meet other requirements”

Note the word “OR”. SO, you can be a US citizen regardless of parent’s status. Assuming Obama was born in Hawaii, that makes him and also Rubio both US Citizens.

The real question is are they eligible with the NBC requirement to be elected president. Since Obama’s father never acquired US citizenship, and Obama remains a duly elected president with no objection from SCOTUS or the congress, a precedence is being set as to who is NBC. What the authorities seem to be saying is if you are born in US of legal resident parents, you are eligible.

Personally I do not like it. You should be born of BOTH parents to be US citizens to be NBC. But we can not fight the SCOTUS and congress setting a precedence. Unless SCOTUS takes up this issue, the Obama eligibility becomes the rule.


26 posted on 03/19/2012 12:26:18 AM PDT by entropy12 (Republicans do not hate, that is a monopoly of democrats.)
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To: eazdzit
Please explain where I am supposed to be looking... To become a citizen at birth, you must:

Have been born in the United States or certain territories or outlying possessions of the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States; or...

I don't happen to believe the 14th Amendment justifies the children of illegal immigrants born here being considered U. S. Citizens. Unfortunately, that has been the accepted meaning for a long long time.

As for a right to be president, I would agree.

As for a right to run for president, I do not agree.

27 posted on 03/19/2012 9:50:56 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I believe in Cap and Trade. I know, I know... Cap spending and trade Obama!)
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To: no dems

Santorum supporters don’t need no stinkin’ sources. /s


28 posted on 03/19/2012 10:59:15 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: Steelfish

Romney was “endorsed in practice if not in declaration.”
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That’s not a good enough reason to go on the world-wide web and announce that Marco Rubio had endorsed Romney. Sometimes on here we are curt, angry, smug, funny, sarcastic, etc., etc., etc....BUT, WE MUST ALWAYS BE HONEST!!!


29 posted on 03/19/2012 4:00:25 PM PDT by no dems (Take it to Tampa: Palin / Ryan or Palin / Rubio in 2012 or Ryan/Rubio.)
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To: DoughtyOne; SatinDoll
Hi DoughtyOne. I owe you an apology. I have the flu and I was interrupted by natures call. I had planned to make the following summation before I posted.

As the link shows there is no such thing as a citizen category called Natural Born. However as SatinDoll pointed out it is a requirement to be eligible to run for President.

Here is her post again. Take another look and you will see what I am saying.

SatinDoll wrote: “We’re not discussing citizenship when the subject is ‘natural born citizen’.

Three types of citizenship are recognized by our government: native born; naturalized; and citizen-by-statute. All have equal rights. All can serve in Congress, either as a Representative in the House, or as a Senator in the Senate.
The following link will take you to the government’s own Immigration Service web page describing the three types of citizenship.
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD
Natural Born Citizen is NOT a type of statutory citizenship as per the Federal Government. Natural Born is ONLY an eligibility requirement for the U.S. Presidency per Article II, Section 1, clause 5, of the U.S. Constitution, and requires, as per the Founders, the President to be born in the United States (jus solis) AND of citizen parents (jus sanguinas).

No one has the RIGHT to be President. The eligibility requirement of Natural Born Citizenship (jus solis + jus sanguinas: born in the U.S. of U.S. citizen parents) must be viewed as a means to prevent split allegiance for any President of the United States.”

I hope this clears up my meaning. I’m sorry for not make myself clear to begin with.

Cheers:>) EasyDoesIt

30 posted on 03/19/2012 4:33:10 PM PDT by eazdzit (Practicing islam should be TREASON? WE need a 3rd Party. NEWT/PALIN in 2012)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Fred.
Rubio said he's not concerned about presidential process dragging on too long, and that the election will be "reframed" once the Republicans have their candidate.

31 posted on 03/19/2012 5:02:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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To: no dems

Surely, isn’t an endorsement in practice even stronger than an endorsement in declaration? Did you not observe on how Rubio ripped into Gingrich calling his ads false but kept silent on the whole barrage of anti-Gingrich ads which were indeed false and Rubio remained completely muted. We also are not neophytes here on FR.


32 posted on 03/19/2012 5:46:26 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: entropy12

We know for sure that neither of Rubio’s parents was a citizen at the time he was born.


33 posted on 03/20/2012 12:59:26 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

If both his parents were LEGAL residents in United States, and if Rubio was born on US soil, then Rubio is NBC based on precedence set by Obama. And Rubio’s birth certificate is not secret, unlike Obama’s which was kept under wraps until Trump made a big stink about it. Many experts have opined that the Obama BC is manufactured. Not so with Rubio’s BC.


34 posted on 03/20/2012 9:54:52 AM PDT by entropy12 (Republicans do not hate, that is a monopoly of democrats.)
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To: eazdzit

Eazdzit, I’m not trying to give you a hard time, and I don’t want an apology from you at all. I’m not unhappy with you. I’m just interested to see how the government site you linked me to bears on the issue in question. See your Government site reference here: http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD

I went there, didn’t see anything pertaining to the presidency. I actually searched for the words ‘president’ and ‘presidency’ in there to see if I had missed something, and didn’t find one instance of either.

If you think that the U. S. Constitution clarifies this, then I would urge you to link to Article II, Section I, Clause IV. Here’s a link to that. (please see Paragraph V. @:) http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html

In that paragraph it states...

“No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

Here it does not preclude children (people) who were born on U. S. soil to foreign nationals.

So you linked me to a government web page that does not clarify the issue. You also mentioned a portion of the U. S. Constitution covering this issue that does not clarify the issue.

That’s all I’m saying. I don’t see the justification for your and or SatinDoll’s comment that children born on U. S. soil, whose parents were not citizens, cannot be considered natural born citizens. You may both be right. I just don’t see justification for that perception at this point.

To my way of thinking, it is an absurdity on top of an absurdity to think that children born to illegal aliens are not only considered citizens, but may also be eligible to run for the presidency. None the less, I do not see anything precluding this to be true.

This being the case, I welcome some form of rebuttal that indicates my take on this is wrong. My take is that our Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches would not strike down such a child’s ultimate eligibility.

I’m not trying to put words into SatinDoll’s mouth here either. If she didn’t make the case you are, then I apologize to her. And to you I admit she may have said it on this very thread. I just didn’t review her comments here since she didn’t address me directly.

I await your response.

Take care.


35 posted on 03/20/2012 10:58:33 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I believe in Cap and Trade. I know, I know... Cap spending and trade Obama!)
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To: SatinDoll

I had meant to to back and add your pseudonym in the “To:” section in the above post, but I forgot before posting. Please be advised that you may wish to address the above post.


36 posted on 03/20/2012 11:01:07 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I believe in Cap and Trade. I know, I know... Cap spending and trade Obama!)
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To: DoughtyOne; SatinDoll

I wanted to mention to the both of you, that when I posted #s 35 and 36 here, I had not expected to see the Admin Moderator’s comments 00:01:18 later on another thread. It was not my intent to post something you would not able to respond to.

I apologize.

Admin Moderator’s post:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/gop/2860542/posts?page=49#49


37 posted on 03/20/2012 11:22:34 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I believe in Cap and Trade. I know, I know... Cap spending and trade Obama!)
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To: eazdzit

Please see the above post. I had meant to address Satindoll and YOU there.

D1


38 posted on 03/20/2012 11:25:06 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I believe in Cap and Trade. I know, I know... Cap spending and trade Obama!)
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To: DoughtyOne

In my mind it is all about what or how a person puts meaning to ‘natural born citizen’ which is an explicit statement/qualification given in the Constitution as you have quoted. For me I consider the extensive recorded debates and comments of the Founders to mean qualification requires citizen parents ‘and’ being born on the soil of the parents citizenship; in the immediate situation USA soil. I have in my lifetime taken civics and history courses that tell me this is what the Founders intended. I believe this wholeheartedly even though my brother who was killed on Okinawa and I also a vet of WWII would not be eligible for POTUSA because our parents were not naturalized citizens.


39 posted on 03/20/2012 11:26:38 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: noinfringers2

I appreciate your comments, but if you’ll look up a few posts, you’ll see where I addressed a post by the Admin Moderator.

If I were going to discuss this with you, it would be along the lines of the very argument you raise, Founders vs current public interpreters. There seems to be a wide chasm there.

Take care.


40 posted on 03/20/2012 11:38:09 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I believe in Cap and Trade. I know, I know... Cap spending and trade Obama!)
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To: entropy12

Obama can’t set “precedence.” There’s no such thing as precedent in American Constitutional law. (You are thinking of English law, where there is no written Constitution.) What matters is the text, as it was understood by those who wrote and ratified it. And according to the text, as it was understood by those who wrote and ratified it, Rubio is not a Natural Born Citizen because his parents were not citizens when he was born.


41 posted on 03/20/2012 9:48:18 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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