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To: Greenpees; entropy12

We’re not discussing citizenship when the subject is ‘natural born citizen’.

Three types of citizenship are recognized by our government: native born; naturalized; and citizen-by-statute. All have equal rights. All can serve in Congress, either as a Representative in the House, or as a Senator in the Senate.

The following link will take you to the government’s own Immigration Service web page describing the three types of citizenship.
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD

Natural Born Citizen is NOT a type of statutory citizenship as per the Federal Government. Natural Born is ONLY an eligibility requirement for the U.S. Presidency per Article II, Section 1, clause 5, of the U.S. Constitution, and requires, as per the Founders, the President to be born in the United States (jus solis) AND of citizen parents (jus sanguinas).

No one has the RIGHT to be President. The eligibility requirement of Natural Born Citizenship (jus solis + jus sanguinas: born in the U.S. of U.S. citizen parents) must be viewed as a means to prevent split allegiance for any President of the United States.


24 posted on 03/18/2012 11:39:58 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: SatinDoll; DoughtyOne
SatinDoll wrote: “We’re not discussing citizenship when the subject is ‘natural born citizen’.

Three types of citizenship are recognized by our government: native born; naturalized; and citizen-by-statute. All have equal rights. All can serve in Congress, either as a Representative in the House, or as a Senator in the Senate.

The following link will take you to the government’s own Immigration Service web page describing the three types of citizenship.
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD

Natural Born Citizen is NOT a type of statutory citizenship as per the Federal Government. Natural Born is ONLY an eligibility requirement for the U.S. Presidency per Article II, Section 1, clause 5, of the U.S. Constitution, and requires, as per the Founders, the President to be born in the United States (jus solis) AND of citizen parents (jus sanguinas).

No one has the RIGHT to be President. The eligibility requirement of Natural Born Citizenship (jus solis + jus sanguinas: born in the U.S. of U.S. citizen parents) must be viewed as a means to prevent split allegiance for any President of the United States.”

MY COMMENT: Doughty, FYI Look at this post and follow the link. You will see that (born in the U.S.A of citizen parents is the requirement.

GOOD POST SatinDoll!! Furthermore if the GOP would require the eligibility issue to be settled for it's candidates the the media would have to cover it and the general public would become informed.

Cheers:>) EasyDoesIt

25 posted on 03/19/2012 12:23:21 AM PDT by eazdzit (Practicing islam should be TREASON? WE need a 3rd Party. NEWT/PALIN in 2012)
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To: SatinDoll

Thank you for the detailed response. However the discussion is not one of US citizenship. Your linked article clearly states that as follows:

“To become a citizen at birth, you must:

Have been born in the United States or certain territories or outlying possessions of the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States; OR
had a parent or parents who were citizens at the time of your birth (if you were born abroad) and meet other requirements”

Note the word “OR”. SO, you can be a US citizen regardless of parent’s status. Assuming Obama was born in Hawaii, that makes him and also Rubio both US Citizens.

The real question is are they eligible with the NBC requirement to be elected president. Since Obama’s father never acquired US citizenship, and Obama remains a duly elected president with no objection from SCOTUS or the congress, a precedence is being set as to who is NBC. What the authorities seem to be saying is if you are born in US of legal resident parents, you are eligible.

Personally I do not like it. You should be born of BOTH parents to be US citizens to be NBC. But we can not fight the SCOTUS and congress setting a precedence. Unless SCOTUS takes up this issue, the Obama eligibility becomes the rule.


26 posted on 03/19/2012 12:26:18 AM PDT by entropy12 (Republicans do not hate, that is a monopoly of democrats.)
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