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Obama's Executive Order Authorizes Peacetime Martial Law
New American ^ | 3-18-12 | Joe Wolverton, II

Posted on 03/19/2012 5:35:58 AM PDT by Mikey_1962

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To: Mikey_1962

The Second Amendment appears to be the only cure we have left. Look for a (another) move against it very shortly.


41 posted on 03/19/2012 6:31:32 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

If this is decree meaningless, why did 0 bother to issue it?

No, this is the legalistic rationale for expanding federal power. There is nothing stopping this from being another NRA (National Recovery Administration).

The NRA of the 1930s was eventually thrown out by the Supreme Court, which (IIRC) ruled that the Commerce Clause did not extend to such extremes. This degree appears to rely on the function of the President as Commander in Chief, and on some obscure laws conveniently vague as to be stretched for any purpose.

In the 1930s, theCourt was attacked by FDR, who tried to enlarge it so as to fill it with new, obedient, zombie appointees. This failed for political reasons.

But now 0 is but one member away from gaining a truly obedient majority on the Court, through appointing various dopey nonentities and affirmative-action celebrities. The two women on the Supreme Court are the most brainless of the zombies, both totally unqualified except as tokens intended to please their respective minorities.

The last was the “wise Latina.” Just how is the supposed wisdom of this person related to her being a Latina? Are Latinas known for their especial wisdom? Then please tell us which groups they surpass in wisdom! Is a Latina wiser than a non-Hispanic woman, or wiser than an Hispanic man; or wiser than a Black, or an Asian? Inquiring minds want to know.

It is all completely phony, but also dangerous. Truly, our freedoms are slipping through our hands.


42 posted on 03/19/2012 6:32:48 AM PDT by docbnj
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To: PeteB570
have the transaction recorded at the new NSA facility in Utah

The sucker's not even built yet. I was out there a couple of weeks ago and there ain't much there.

That's not saying that the transaction isn't recorded.

43 posted on 03/19/2012 6:33:26 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Liberty is in danger. We are the generation. This is our role. Now is the time. Defend Freedom!)
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To: Mikey_1962

By Executive Order (in another age what would more aptly be called a “Royal Decree”) no less. The writing on the wall may as well be composed in neon. He wants a civil war and thinks he can win.


44 posted on 03/19/2012 6:33:37 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: oldasrocks

“RElAX, Its just the new way to fight the fat. They will give us all 600 calories of food a day like they do in North Korea. Then we will be able to march in parades honoring our Dear Leader.”

Yeah, i hope Obama doesn’t die before me because i am sure i would be beaten for not grieving satisfactorily.


45 posted on 03/19/2012 6:33:46 AM PDT by fatrat (extremely extreme right-wing radicalized veteran)
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To: circlecity

When? Right after 9/11? EO#, please. If it is still in effect, then why did Barry need to do this other than poke another PINO finger in the Patriots’ eyes.


46 posted on 03/19/2012 6:34:04 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Uncle Slayton
Again, Obama has crossed the line, but I'm confident that the GOP led House will revoke this Executive Order.

Did you forget the < /sarc > tag?

47 posted on 03/19/2012 6:35:59 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: kenmcg
"Just as Hitler had his storm troopers, the OWS’s are Bam’s storm troopers in training."

Not trying to belittle your concern, but I would suspect that a vast majority of those people have never touched a firearm in their lives. If they were one day handed weapons and instructed to go out and arrest us, they would suffer far more casualties than we would.

Our side has the firearms and wherewithal (and determination) to use them effectively. Most of us have military service and understand combat tactics. Those OWS fools are nothing more than cannon fodder. It would be like fish in a barrel.
48 posted on 03/19/2012 6:40:21 AM PDT by FortWorthPatriot (Obama is no Hitler; Hitler got the Olympics)
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To: Sioux-san

Most of your questions are answered here;

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/03/18/national-defense-resources-preparedness-executive-order-power-grab-or-update/

“Indeed — but all of that was equally true before Obama issued an update to a 73-year-old effort that changed nothing about his executive authority and power. To the extent that we’re all more aware of it, that’s good, but we shouldn’t act as though this was an Obama novelty, and we really shouldn’t jump to conspiracy-think conclusions without understanding the history of these EOs.”


49 posted on 03/19/2012 6:43:36 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Mikey_1962

Don’t jump on me too hard...but my husband read the entire executive order and said that much of this has been in effect for many years. (I’m not saying that it’s good.)

For a different view, see this: http://volokh.com/2012/03/18/new-eo-on-natural-resources-defense-preparedness

An excerpt: “The EO is simply an update of prior orders on the same subject going back decades to, among other things, account for changes in the cabinet and the like. if this is a presidential power grab — and I don’t believe it is — the power was grabbed decades ago.”


50 posted on 03/19/2012 6:44:14 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Mikey_1962

has the added side benefit of getting the Ron Paul people all fired-up at a critical point in the GOP nomination process


51 posted on 03/19/2012 6:45:13 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SumProVita

You are correct, the power was grabbed decades ago. The concern now is that we have someone in the White House who seems likely to make use of the power.

The idea is that the USA has existing policies in place that would facilitate a president (any president) in being a dictator. The fear is that we might (some day) have someone in the White House who would make use of these Executive Orders.

The similarity is to the constitution of the Weimar Republic in Germany. It wasn’t a bad document at all. But it did contain Article 48 — and that basically said that the German Constitution would be suspended if a state of emergency were declared. Well, Hitler was elected chancellor, the Reichstag building caught on fire, and Hitler said, “Okay. No more Constitution. I am the fuhrer and my word is law.”

Completely legal and in accordance with government mandates put in place by others.


52 posted on 03/19/2012 6:47:03 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("And the public gets what the public wants" -- The Jam)
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To: SumProVita

Much of it, yes. But I have heard that the inclusion of “in peacetime” makes much more mischief possible.


53 posted on 03/19/2012 6:47:53 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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American Presidents have had exactly this same power since 1939

It was wrong then, it is wrong today, and it will be wrong any time in the future. The lemmings defence never worked with me.

54 posted on 03/19/2012 6:48:48 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: Sioux-san
This article answers most of your questions:

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/03/18/national-defense-resources-preparedness-executive-order-power-grab-or-update/

55 posted on 03/19/2012 6:49:07 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: A.Hun

Well said. Glenn Beck has been warning about “an event” that will take place before the election. I don’t doubt for a second that this bunch will do ANYTHING to hold onto power.


56 posted on 03/19/2012 6:50:53 AM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: A.Hun

Well said. Glenn Beck has been warning about “an event” that will take place before the election. I don’t doubt for a second that this bunch will do ANYTHING to hold onto power.


57 posted on 03/19/2012 6:51:09 AM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: Lazamataz

Where in the EO is “in peacetime” found?


58 posted on 03/19/2012 6:51:55 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: kenmcg

I’m not so sure...I can envisage the cynic in chief using them as the excuse to implement the order...unrest etc.

Throws them under the bus to look like a hero and savior of the middle class. a grateful nation votes zero.

There is NOTHING the sumbich won’t do or try to do to save is sorry azz.

FUBO!


59 posted on 03/19/2012 6:52:27 AM PDT by Adder (Da bro has GOT to go!)
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To: SumProVita
Sec. 102. Policy. The United States must have an industrial and technological base capable of meeting national defense requirements and capable of contributing to the technological superiority of its national defense equipment in peacetime and in times of national emergency. The domestic industrial and technological base is the foundation for national defense preparedness. The authorities provided in the Act shall be used to strengthen this base and to ensure it is capable of responding to the national defense needs of the United States.

The key is, I need to solidly determine that this phrase was added. Right now I am going on the words of others. I will confirm or refute. If I confirm, it is a very troubling inclusion and must be overturned immediately.

60 posted on 03/19/2012 6:56:36 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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