What If Oil and Natural Gas Are Renewable Resources? (Evidence mounting on limitless supply of oil)

American Thinker ^ | 03/18/2012 | Greg Lewis

[GraceG]

And all that heat fromt he earth’s core comes for the decay of elements like Thorium, so Oil is powered by Thorium!!!

If we could harness that power somehow, somehow.....

[Okieshooter]

“I’m no scientist, but being on FR has taught me to think a bit.....That said, what if drilling a well and removing oil somehow “stimulates” the creation process and the more we use then the more is created?”

My family has been in the oil business for about 100 years and we have never seen any sign of that happening. Besides there is no link between where oil is being produced and where it is being formed.

[AFPhys]

Yup: Coal is definitely fossil. Oil? ... well, I am still listening to the arguments and evidence on both sides.

[trailhkr1]

Thanks for the lesson. I always admit when I was wrong.

[Okieshooter]

"My family has been in the oil business for about 100 years" 1922 Mexia, Tx, grandfather with hands in pockets, uncle at 6 years old and father at 4 yrs old.

[CSM]

“I’m no scientist, but being on FR has taught me to think a bit....”

Ha, I should have said that being on FR has taught me to TRY to think a bit...Not necessarily correctly or anything, but at least to try.

[Noumenon]

“How are we supposed to be able to control all these people and impose our utopia on them if they have access to all the energy and mobility that they want!!!!????”

Precisely. As Machiavelli said long ago:

"When cities or provinces have been accustomed to live under a prince... they do not know how to live in freedom... and a prince can win them over with greater faculty and establish himself securely. But in republics, there is greater life...they do not and cannot cast aside the memory of their ancient liberty, so that the surest way to conquer them is to lay them waste."

There is no better description for what the wrecking crew behind 0bama aim to do - to lay us waste. None of them are fit to live in a free society. Time for a new Crusade.

[crusty old prospector]

Mexia (pronounced Muhaya if you ain’t from Texas). One of the fields that helped build Humble Oil, now known as Exxon. Not too many active wells around there now.

[hosepipe]

We are told many Moons and Planets in our solar system have lakes of methane(natural gas).. or atmospheres (of it)..

Where did all that natural gas in liquid form come from?..
Decaying vegetable matter?.. And if natural gas why not also OIL in some form.. be present as well.. The MOONS could have oil deposits..

Note: Methane = natural gas = stuff we heat our houses with..

[Okieshooter]

"Mexia (pronounced Muhaya if you ain’t from Texas). One of the fields that helped build Humble Oil, now known as Exxon. Not too many active wells around there now." Another picture from that field with grandfather sitting down. This picture has been in Hughes publications over the years and was on a belt buckle they made in about 1980. Grandfather had just set a record drilling with a Hughes Simplex bit.

[aruanan]

Oil Fields Are Refilling... Naturally - Sometimes Rapidly

There Are More Oil Seeps Than All The Tankers On Earth By Robert Cooke

The 'Abiotic Oil' Controversy, Newsday, 04/10.2005.

Geochemist Says Oil FieldsMay Be Refilled Naturally, New York Times, Sept. 26, 1995 .

Odd Reservoir Off Louisiana Prods Oil Experts to Seek a Deeper Meaning By CHRISTOPHER COOPER, Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL, April 16, 1999.

The Mystery of Eugene Island 330, Science Frontiers Online, No. 124, July-August 1999.

See also the papers on oil and gas origins by Kropotkin.

[aruanan]

See also the papers on oil and gas origins by Kropotkin. Here's a page with links, though some of the papers may be available for free only through a university with subscriptions (like my own, ha ha).

[faucetman]

Oil discoveries and new technologies have sent the peak oil estimates to the ash heap. I don't see us EVER running out, but new types of energy discoveries and new technologies will make the amount oil a moot point. E-cat for one.

[SandRat]

The public -- likely Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney notwithstanding -- is ready for a message that defends oil as the fuel of the future and is buttressed by growing scientific evidence. This means that there's no need for us to look beyond our shores -- our "offshores," to be precise -- to discover where our oil is coming from. It's bubbling up constantly from miles below the surface of the earth, and it's not about to run out.

This last para tells why the media wants us to select Mittens as our candidate.

[Publius6961]

This nonsense again?

What part, exactly?

[thackney]

Keep reading the thread. When you reach this post, ask me again if you want.

[Wuli]

O.K. For argument’s sake, let’s agree that “fossil fuels” are not “fossil” in orgin, but geologic. And that there is a geologic process by which they are ‘continually’ forming.

Even then, if that thesis can be proven, then at some point we will have to discover “at what rate” (posssibly site-by-site) the “renewable” process is ocurring, because even a renewable process is not, in the short term (immediate demands) limitless. Economics works best on factual thesis not theoretical ones, so “best price” will still want to know what reserves are “known” or at least known based on accepted standards.

And, at the end of the day (what century?), it would be helpful to NOT have demand forever seeking deeper and deeper sources to the point it is no longer ‘renewable’, but being drained at the final reserves, with any new demand waiting upon the geologic process, and geologic time-scales.

At some point, diversity and flexibility of energy seems to offer more security.

[crusty old prospector]

All these papers refer to Eugene Island 330. It has been proven that the faults are leaking and the oil is coming up from below. That is how most oil migrates vertically. It is miniscule in comparison to the countless number of oil fields around the world where this phenomenon is not occuring. And oil seeps are just where these same type of leaky faults are hitting the sea floor. Here are just a few.

[crusty old prospector]

The only thing that makes these new “discoveries” viable is $100 a barrel oil. The wells are very expensive and are characterized with high decline rates. The same goes for the tar sands in Canada, i.e. Keystone XL pipeline. It doesn’t fly with $30 oil. The world is running out of “easy” oil. The bulk of it is either in unconventional reservoirs (Bakken, Eagle Ford, etc.,) in 7,000’ of water or greater (i.e. deepwater Gulf of Mexico and Brazil,)or in countries that don’t like dealing with the infidels. There is no longer a free oil lunch like our parents and grandparents.

[MrB]

I like your idea,

but do you think that 0bama would hesitate about the penalty? It’s not coming from HIS stash.