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Posted on 03/19/2012 11:07:03 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
An Illinois father of three faces a potential $750 fine and possible criminal charges after he pulled over to ask two teenage girls if they needed a ride during a snow storm on March 2, 2012. Rodney Peterson says he was simply trying to be a good Samaritan by trying to help the girls, not harm them. Peterson says he saw two young girls, ages 13, leave a Shell gas station in the Barrington, Illinois area on cold wintery day without coats, umbrellas or hoods. He said he pulled over and asked them how far they were walking and they just waved him on and he obliged. He told CBS Chicago that his actions were a case of, a good deed gone wrong.
Petersons wife of 12 years, who is also pregnant with their fourth child said that the act was misinterpreted.
The Petersons fully understand why the girls called police. The girls claimed the offer made them uncomfortable, but what the Petersons dont understand, is why the Barrington police are charging him.
The Barrington police defend their actions however. They say he should have called police to offer the girls a ride if he felt they were in danger. They say both girls were alarmed and disturbed by Petersons actions. Peterson is due in court some time today.
They issued him a ticket under a municipal ordinance saying its a violation to make any unreasonable or offensive act, utterance, gesture or display, which, under the circumstances, creates a clear and present danger of a breach of peace or imminent threat of violence.
No Good Dead....
If that is the wording, and it happened as he states, good luck getting that to stick.
He should have called the police. What?! use a cell phone in an automobile!!!! There’s LAWS against that!
Can you say "prior restraint?"
So, in Libtard world - this is another case of punish the “good guys” for things done by the “bad guys”.
Taking this to it’s next logical step, can I have a car of Black youth arrested and fines applied - because seeing a group of black youth may “creates a clear and present danger of a breach of peace or imminent threat of violence.
Or, does this ordinance only apply to White people?
Betcha the male good Samaritan has money.
How dare he try to do something himself without first deferring to our protective overlords!
Next time, just let ‘em FREEZE.
Neighbor helping neighbor? Church helping sinners? We The People voting in honest elections?
It's all being swept away. It is now each against all, to the victor belongs the spoils, and you've got to look out for yourself and to hell with everyone else.
I think we're headed for feudalism, but I don't want to be a serf.
Stupid fingers not following the brain. hehe
What kind of charges are the parents of these 2 girls facing for allowing them out on such a day without coats?
The real lesson is, if you are a man, never help a woman or child. The risk of legal liability is to great.
I meant the wording of the ordinance. If the man did as he says he did, he did not violate the ordinance. Simply asking people if they need help, and even trying to politely compel them a bit (ask a second time like, “are you sure...”) if things look really dangerous, would not violate that ordinance.
What I see is the agents of the state letting the peasants know that the purview of the state will not be impinged on by private actions.
That makes me uncomfortable. Arrest that man.
—The government is working hard to break the Social Contract.—
Yep. It is one of the reasons we so love our new home in central, rural Kentucky. In many, MANY good ways, it’s like going back to America 50 years ago.
You have the breaking of the social contract and the general demonization of fatherhood all in one fell swoop here.
Yep, the prince of the air is building his kingdom.
And, yes, leftists, you’re workin’ for him.
After the criminal case here comes a civil suit by the girl's parent since he didn't call 911 for the state to provide warm coats, hats, gloves etc.
You've got that right. I remember a couple of years ago, I was dropping my daughter off at a birthday party and was then on my way to work. I told the other mom my husband would be picking up my kid. She looked at me and said - I'll need to ask him for ID because I've never met him - I was speechless and then she was speechless when I told her my husband is the child's father and she had met him plenty of times.
Every time I see a government employee I reach that standard.
He should bring ten friends and they should each call in complaints at every cop they see.
Oooh I saw a gun - I feel uncomfortable
Pooh - black people scare me
Pooh - I’m afraid of peanuts
Ooh I saw an obama bumper sticker
Bummer of a typo, that.
And what good would that do? They can't respond to a 911 call about a crime in a reasonable amount of time, how fast would they have sent dispatch to go give a couple of girls a ride home?
Good Samaritan laws protect such offers of help.
" 3/5/12 At approximately 7:10 pm two Barrington police officers confronted me, Rodney Peterson, at my residence (one female officer, badge number 311, the other male who was her superior or to quote him directly "her boss") I did not get either of their names. They asked me to please step out of my residence that they needed to speak with me. They asked my wife to excuse herself back into the house and then proceeded to question my whereabouts on Friday march 2nd. Once established that I was in Barrington and that I went to the local shell gas station they asked if I had offered two females a ride, to which I answered that I had.
I had been in the area that day because I bought lunch for the staff of my former employer. I was with that employer for the past seven years, six of which were in Barrington. The weather if you can recall on Friday march 2nd was a slushy mix of ice and rain. I had stopped at the Circle K gas station just down the street from my former employer to get gas as I still had errands to run, it was at the gas station, while I was waiting for my gas purchase to conclude, that I saw the two females leaving the gas station in the bad weather. I saw them for a whole of three seconds, just long enough to conclude that they had no umbrellas or anything and being a Christian God put it on my heart to offer them a ride because of the bad weather. They walked out of visual sight, I finished pumping my gas and then drove up to a residential street where I saw them again, I thought to myself if they did want a ride I would have to move one of my two children's car seats that were in the back seat to make room, I slowed my vehicle to a stop, rolled down my passenger side window and asked them "do you have a long way to go?" I believe the response of one of them was "we're okay" as she waved me to go on in which I replied "okay" rolled up my window and continued on my way. I immediately drove back to rte 59 (Hough st) and proceeded to the local Barrington post office where I sent a parcel to the IRS via certified mail. At the post office I had to wait a few minutes before making my purchase there as there was another customer who was being helped at the time. From the post office I continued my errands and went to the local jewel to stop at TCF bank to request statements on a closed account and deposit my rent check to my landlords account, TCF could not comply with my requests for statements and suggested I try calling their customer service department. While I waited on hold with TCF I made two purchases from jewel. I then proceeded to a local business near wool st., of whom I had business dealings in the past six years to drop off media from previous work done. I then went to Woodfield mall where I paid two bills for my wife and bought a pack of socks for myself. I came home and my son and I packed for our weekend trip of snowboarding in Wisconsin with my father in-law and brother in-laws my son and I were going to learn to snowboard and we both did much better than we thought we would. I was gone most of Saturday and most of Sunday, my wife used my car while I was gone since her car was low on gas.
The officers explained that at least one of these girls were 14yrs old and how the whole situation had put me in a bad light and that I was the subject of investigation. They explained that the girls, their parents and a local school were very concerned because of this situation. The officers asked me why I offered them a ride and I explained as above. The officers thanked me for explaining the situation and being honest about whether I was the person who had asked. The officers asked if anyone had called me who told me that they had been investigating me, to which I replied no. They immediately both accused me of lying to them about someone calling me and proceeded to ask me again in several different ways the same question. The officers then asked me where my car was, I explained that my wife and I took it to Midas that morning Monday march 5th as it had $1,200 in repairs, the officers then explained that they thought that I was attempting to hide my car to which I replied that we could go to the local Midas or I could get that estimated bill that I had got on Feb 29th or show them the unused coupons I had on my refrigerator where I cut out the coupon I had used today, as I was keeping the rest to get my wife's car repaired this week. I even showed them the to-do list on my phone. Then the officers explained that they had no choice but to issue me at ticket, I asked what would happen if I refused to accept (because I was disturbed and frustrated that these events were even happening) to which they replied that I cloud accept the ticket or I could turn around, be cuffed and arrested and would have to pay to post bail. They explained that the ticket was a better option and that I could go back in to my family and have dinner with them, they then said I would have to appear in court before a judge. I did not wish to sign the ticket as the female officer had said I could refuse to sign the ticket but It would have to be issued. I asked what would happen if I did not sign the ticket since I disagreed with how the situation had been perceived and that the female officer had said I could refuse to do so, the male officer at that point told me Im her boss and I say you have to sign the ticket. I signed reluctantly and unwillingly accepted the ticket after they reiterated themselves in that they could just arrest me. They then after a few attempts and phone calls(due to the officers vacations and that I was representing Jesus by performing as Jesus in a dramatization of the Lord's last Passover feast and carrying the cross on the way to the crucifixion at a local church for a pastor friend of mine of which I will have two days of rehearsal) agreed on a scheduled court date. After I received the ticket for Disorderly Conduct I asked what I should do since I am innocent in the matter, was there anything that I could do... The officer almost mockingly replied that so long as I had a clear concise with my maker that I would be fine. I explained the entire situation to my pregnant wife, my 10yr old son, my 7yr old and 4yr old daughters. I am very frustrated that in attempting to do something good for someone I am now accused of something very dark, evil and sinister, I do however understand the concerns of the parents and school as I would do the same if I thought my children were at risk, also I applaud the two girls for their quick thinking, I unfortunately failed to see the trouble my good intention would cause, my sincere apologies to the two teenage girls, their parents and the local school involved, you however can rest assured that this was a huge misunderstanding and that the girls were at absolutely no risk whatsoever.
As it was originally God who gave me the idea and the heart to even care, I know he has allowed all of this for a reason and I know that in some way he will be glorified, it must be that someone involved needed to hear about the genuine love of God how his one and only son died for the entire world and how that just as sin has separated all mankind from God, Jesus by his shed blood has separated sin from those sinners who would call on him for forgiveness and believe that he is the Christ our King.
“The Barrington police defend their actions however. They say he should have called police to offer the girls a ride if he felt they were in danger”
For which the police already have stated and had rules in court they are not required to show nor actually offer assistance. Cops are the worst of liars and thieves. They claim we should call them but if anything goes wrong they claim they cannot be held responsible.
Or, in other words Don't you DARE try to solve a problem yourself without calling in the government -- That's illegal.
btw the next time you are at the DMV think about how it started as simply a register of vehicles and their owners
I failed to put the last paragraph in post #25 in bold, but that last paragraph also contains Rodney Peterson’s words, not mine.
I wanted to caution her about letting someone into her house that she does not know, when she is alone. However because of the attitudes that prevail today, I did not. No good deed goes unpunished today. I hope nothing ever happens to her, she is a nice lady.
Well that ordinance gets rid of Occupy Chicago.
Is it permissible to call the police if I get a tingle up my leg that I don’t like after seeing a pic of Obama?
Funny - I faced the same situation.
Last summer I was driving out of our town. I saw our neighbor’s kids who live at the other end of our street. They are about 12 years old. I recognize them, although I rarely, if ever, chat with them or their parents. They were on their bikes, about 5-8 miles from home - peddling along on the side of a suburban/country road during a strong summer thunder-storm.
I was thinking “I should offer them a ride,” but immediately imagined the police pencil sketch-drawings of my face and the 1-800 police tip line adverts, so I kept driving.
Have seen them around since - so they eventually made it home OK!
No good deed goes unpunished...
Haven't lived in the area since then, but have been through there. Don't see any signs that the affluence has declined.
Exactly, his crime was taking initiative. Any good totalitarian govt always punishes such things as an example to keep the Little People in their place. How dare they think for themselves, thats what the Thin Skinned Line is for.
This is not our parents America.
Thanks for the article. I’m going to tell my son tonight to just call 911 if he ever sees anyone in need.
On one of the videos a lawyer explains why.
On the second a retired leo explains why.
The last thing I want to do is bring agents of the government into the mix.
She left her kid, probably about 2, standing at the doors while she hid behind one of the display racks. Soon as a man, probably in his 70’s, grabbed the kids hand to take him to the Sears employees, the woman came running out screaming that he was trying to take her baby.
Lucky for the guy there was me and a couple of other people that saw what happened and the police were called on the woman.
yeah try using that on persistant panhandlers...looks like a very vague statute to me..
C’mon guys the sign on the side of the Barrington Police cars even reads “ Police and Taxi Service. Here To Protect and Chaffeur”
Have a nice day, officers. You can come back with a warrant.
Perhaps it did, and perhaps they were right to do so. But, for the police to come out and conduct an interrogation of someone being accused of a crime without first advising him of what was about, the police probably violated procedure by not saying he had a right to not answer questions. They had all the info they needed, the car license, the complaint (of what I don’t know as making someone uncomfortable is hardly a crime). Anyway, first advice when confronted by a cop is say your identity and ask what is this about, don’t answer anything till you know what is going on. The cop is not an arbitrator. Two cops coming to visit is a real danger sign.
From the linked article: “Peterson says he saw two young girls, ages 13, leave a Shell gas station in the Barrington, Illinois area on cold wintery day without coats, umbrellas or hoods.”
And the girls and their parents were “uncomfortable”? What the hell is the matter with the IDIOTIC PARENTS who would allow their early-teen daughters go out in this kind of weather without being properly dressed for the weather.
I realize that the laws differ from state to state, but in my state, the officers could go ahead and issue the citation, but could not make an arrest if it were not signed, because the misdemeanor did not occur in their presence.
I advise all to avoid bringing agents of the government into the mix. It’s better to work things out without them, if at all possible.
And when a REAL Parent shows Parental Concern, he is branded as a predator.
I know what you mean. I do nighttime volunteer work at a downtown church. Often on the way home I see solitary women walking to their cars or waiting at a bus stop. I don’t like to think of them all alone at night in a dodgy neighborhood, but I’m too scared to offer them a lift.
Chivalry is dead — but not from natural causes.