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Postman: Ayers family put 'foreigner' Obama through school
WND ^ | 3-19-12 | Jerome Corsi

Posted on 03/19/2012 9:04:16 PM PDT by STARWISE


Allen Hulton

*snip*

A retired U.S. Postal Service carrier who delivered mail to Tom and Mary Ayers in a Chicago suburb in the late 1980s and early 1990s and claims to have met Obama in front of the Ayers home emphatically says yes to all three questions.

Allen Hulton, who was commended for 39 years of honorable service with the USPS, has given a sworn affidavit to investigators commissioned by Maricopa County, Ariz., Sheriff Joe Arpaio to determine whether Obama is eligible for Arizona’s 2012 election ballot. Hulton has recorded about three hours of video interviews with WND.

Hulton says that in conversations with Mary Ayers while on his route he learned of the couple’s enthusiasm and support for a black foreign student. One bright, warm Chicagoland day, he recounts, he met the student who fit Mary Ayers’ description in front of the Ayers home in Glen Ellyn, Ill. That young man, Hulton is convinced, was Barack Obama.


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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: ayers; birthcertificate; corruption; democrats; foreignstudent; fraud; guyfromneighborhood; illinois; naturalborncitizen; nobama2012; obama; obamatruthfile; postman
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To: bluecat6

Unless it was a Fulbright


201 posted on 03/21/2012 2:15:05 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: cynwoody
However, that is probably just a clerical error by the clerk assigning the number.

Proof?
202 posted on 03/21/2012 2:25:24 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: GregNH
This "news" has been out there since '08, just ignored until Joe made his news conference. All he pointed out was the date stamp because it is clearly fabricated but there are 8 other issues with that registration.

Did the next commander in chief forge his selective service registration?

It's been ignored because it's guano.

203 posted on 03/21/2012 2:26:14 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: drpix; GregNH; cynwoody

All of which leads to a reasonable request; can we see your school records please? Why such a request is met with deliberate distortions is puzzling and even more puzzling is how twisting the words of those who are asking for clarification is beneficial to anyone particularly conservatives or this forum.


204 posted on 03/21/2012 2:27:57 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: cynwoody
This is just a waste of time. I provide solid logic and facts. You respond with silly illogical statements and homework assignments.

Obama’s records have been sealed and are not available. I have shown you that the Obama Administration has threatened workers who just viewed Obama’s information with prosecution and prison time. You make the silly statement that they would be released anyway. You imply people wouldn't care about going to prison.

You don't even know Obama had a foreign SS# at Occidental. Do a little research.

You make the ridiculous statement that Obama’s Connecticut SS# which was issued to someone else was a “clerical error”. Of course you have no PROOF of that. You are just making things up out of the blue.

There has been considerable analysis of Obama’s Selective Service Documents which first appeared mysteriously in 2008. Atlas Shrugged has an analysis as do several other spots on the Internet. Do a little reading. You might actually learn something.

Instead of asking dumb questions over and over why don't you just admit you are ignorant of these matters? Just say you don't know anything about these issues.

Everyone can already tell.

205 posted on 03/21/2012 2:31:25 PM PDT by detective
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To: cynwoody
The only thing unusual about the registration is the missing 19 in the date stamp. It was probably just broken.

That has been proven otherwise in this VIDEO and that was only one of many questionable items.

Did you also notice that the postmark is from a Hawaii PO? Occidental is in Los Angeles, California, across the ocean from Hawaii. You might think that he can walk on water, but it's still quite a distance. ;-)
206 posted on 03/21/2012 2:33:22 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: cynwoody

IMHO....you are a troll.


207 posted on 03/21/2012 2:35:05 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: TigersEye
All of which leads to a reasonable request; can we see your school records please?

Most people are required to provide those to most employers. I don't know of many government jobs that don't, except for the most important office in the world.
208 posted on 03/21/2012 2:36:11 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: detective; cynwoody; Admin Moderator
This is just a waste of time. I provide solid logic and facts. You respond with silly illogical statements and homework assignments.

That's because cynwoody has no interest in the truth. He deliberately lies about what people say in order to disrupt this forum. The question is "why?"

209 posted on 03/21/2012 2:36:48 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Brown Deer
Prove it wasn't a clerical error.

It's of no significance, anyway. No way is it evidence of fraud.

The numbers were issued at a central office, based on the zip code in the applicant's return address. Obama's zip was 96826. If you mistype it as 06826, you get a zip that falls within the zip ranges in Connecticut. That would have caused him to get the next number from Connecticut's pool instead of Hawaii's. Once assigned, SSNs are not changed. But no big deal, because it's just a number, not some sort of falsified credential of Connecticut residence or something.

210 posted on 03/21/2012 2:50:14 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
It's been ignored because it's guano.

Oh OK, thanx.

211 posted on 03/21/2012 2:52:57 PM PDT by GregNH (>>>>>I am SO ready to join a brigade of pickup trucks to surround DC<<<<<)
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To: TigersEye
Thanks TigersEye. I go with the assumption I can have an intelligent conversation on FR. Sometimes it is just not the case.
212 posted on 03/21/2012 2:53:42 PM PDT by detective
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To: cricket; Red Steel; Fred Nerks; Danae; butterdezillion; Beckwith; edge919

Interesting .. thanks!

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/12/is_gallmanns_memoir_the_source_for_obamas.html


213 posted on 03/21/2012 2:53:45 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: rxsid; thouworm; bushpilot1

Interesting .. thanks!

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/12/is_gallmanns_memoir_the_source_for_obamas.html


214 posted on 03/21/2012 2:54:45 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: GregNH
You forgot the link where you got those listings. But the dates are long after he left Occidental, and his name is misspelled. Where is the proof he had such a number at Occidental?

And SSNs beginning with 9's are IRS ITINs, which are assigned to foreign nationals who might owe US taxes. They are not valid as SSNs. Their main use seems to be to allow illegals to file tax returns and mooch child credits off of us.

215 posted on 03/21/2012 3:01:39 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

That’s a new one. Maybe you should let Snopes and Bill O’Really in on it, because they both think that 0bama Sr. was going to school in Connecticut in 1977.

and the myths never end ;-)


216 posted on 03/21/2012 3:04:11 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: cynwoody

And SSNs beginning with 9's are IRS ITINs, which are assigned to foreign nationals who might owe US taxes. They are not valid as SSNs. Their main use seems to be to allow illegals to file tax returns and mooch child credits off of us.
217 posted on 03/21/2012 3:08:06 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
IMHO....you are a troll.

must be, since he's ignored most of my questions.
218 posted on 03/21/2012 3:10:56 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: detective
I don't have a problem with disagreement on any subject or opinions and speculation. Even wild ones. But there is only one word for a poster who engages solely in deliberate distortions, baiting and obtuse denials of facts that have been presented. Troll.

When it goes on for months and years how can there be any doubt? I don't know if its agenda is political agitation or personal amusement but the result is the same. It's misleading and disruptive and it only serves the left.

219 posted on 03/21/2012 3:15:15 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: cynwoody
The person who generated the list of names, addresses, and SSNs is Mr. Neil Sankey, a former British policeman who’s now a licensed private investigator in Los Angeles.

List Of Obama Social Security Numbers And Associated Propoerties

The dates are for when the record was last updated and even claims that the person on the record probably does not live there. Many Universities have assigned nine-digit "temporary" Social Security numbers to post-graduate foreign nationals beginning with 999. The temporary number is designed to be replaced once the graduate student has received a valid SSN.

220 posted on 03/21/2012 3:17:33 PM PDT by GregNH (>>>>>I am SO ready to join a brigade of pickup trucks to surround DC<<<<<)
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To: detective
This is just a waste of time. I provide solid logic and facts. You respond with silly illogical statements and homework assignments.

It is. Example: You contradicted me on how Obama got into Punahou (admittedly a hazy topic). Then I did the "homework assignment" and provided actual links casting a very little more light on that obscure topic. So you just threw out a bunch more bunk.

We all need to get off the birth thing and onto the other aspects of Obama's biography — Ayers and Dohrn and all the rest.

Because it's highly likely that the birth thing is a blind alley and a waste of time. More than likely, he was indeed born in Hawaii, and the BC he gave out will turn out to match the one on file at the Hawaii Department of Health. Of course, you could go the alternative con law route instead and press the argument he isn't natural born because of his father. But the Supreme Court is not going to go with that interpretation after all this time.

There is an election that must be won, and there are no magic bullets. Certainly not birtherism!

221 posted on 03/21/2012 3:24:55 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

still waiting...


222 posted on 03/21/2012 3:36:04 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: cynwoody
More than likely, he was indeed born in Hawaii, and the BC he gave out will turn out to match the one on file at the Hawaii Department of Health.

How could a proven forgery match the one on file?
223 posted on 03/21/2012 3:38:14 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: cynwoody; All
We all need to get off the birth thing and onto the other aspects of Obama's biography — Ayers and Dohrn and all the rest.

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YOUR OPINION & CHOICE! RESPECT THAT OTHERS HAVE DIFFERING OPINIONS FROM YOURS ABOUT THE TRUTH AND ALLEGIANCE TO THE CONSTITUTION. NO MATTER THE OUTCOME OF THAT PURSUIT, IT IS WORTHY & HONORABLE!

In other words, get off your arrogant high horse!

224 posted on 03/21/2012 3:39:16 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE
In other words, get off your arrogant high horse!

Arrogant high horse? What's arrogant about debunking falsehoods and pointing out blind alleys?

However, I do think we owe you an apology for hijacking your thread, which started out as documentation of the Ayers - Obama linkage. And that's perfectly excellent!

225 posted on 03/21/2012 3:46:01 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

The only one who hi-jacked this thread is you.


226 posted on 03/21/2012 3:51:36 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: cynwoody

“The only thing unusual about the registration is the missing 19 in the date stamp. It was probably just broken.”

Seriously, that’s the most inane Obama’s-records-are-all-legitimate defense I’ve seen on this site. You remind me of zotted troll jamese777 or curiosity [sorry; don’t remember which—they all run together after a while] who had some long, convoluted, whackily improbable explanation for why Obama has a CN SS#. I alluded to this hocu-pocus dingbat theory once, and got some or all the details wrong. [Who could keep them all straight? It was crazy on wheels with a crack-cocaine chaser.]

The troll, whichever one it was, came after me w both guns blazing. He/she wildly and angrily accused me of purposefully misrepresenting his/her theory. I’ve never laughed so hard. As if getting the claptrap thing right would make it any less ridiculous.

For you Obama-defenders no theory is too silly or improbable. No one else’s draft registration has surfaced w the date stamp “broken”. What are the odds it would happen only to our hapless boy-scout-honest hip young president, and to him alone?

Odds, you say? You don’t need no stinkin’ odds. You know it’s legitimate because Obama says it is, and hells bells, the man never lies. Straight as an arrow, that guy—and everybody knows it. /s

Shilling for Obama. It’s filthy work, but somebody’s got to do it, right cynwoody?


227 posted on 03/21/2012 3:53:46 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Brown Deer
How could a proven forgery match the one on file?

It's probably not forged. The Sheriff presented the layers argument. However, that was shot down almost a year ago. When you use the software tools that were used on that document, you get the kinds of effects the Sheriff meticulously documented. To be sure, they are there, but they don't add up to forgery.

Remember, there is an original on file in Hawaii. If the document Obama gave out were ever shown not to match that original in all material facts asserted, the game would be up. Obama and his lawyers know that. But if they do match, then the only recourse is to impeach the original on file. And, given the passage of time, that's likely not doable either.

228 posted on 03/21/2012 3:54:44 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
It's probably not forged.

BS, you're a moron!

The Sheriff presented the layers argument.

BS, he never presented anything.

And the lies keep coming from cynwoody!
229 posted on 03/21/2012 4:01:16 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: cynwoody
No one has given a rational refutation to this analysis...

Obama Birth Certificate Faked In Adobe Illustrator - Official Proof 1 ( Layers ) (one of four videos)

230 posted on 03/21/2012 4:04:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Fantasywriter
No one else’s draft registration has surfaced w the date stamp “broken”.

That is precisely how that question should be answered. But you would need access to the full pile of federal records. You would need to dig in and find other SSS registrations submitted from that post office in that time frame. Then you could see if any of them have or do not have missing 19s, and you could also compare other details on the stamps and the rest of the forms.

However, to cite the fact that nobody else's registration has surfaced proves nothing, since obviously there is no reason for anybody else's to have surfaced.

Shilling for Obama. It’s filthy work, but somebody’s got to do it, right cynwoody?

You are profoundly confused.

231 posted on 03/21/2012 4:10:44 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
That is precisely how that question should be answered. But you would need access to the full pile of federal records.

When anyone else suggests that you twist their words 180 degrees. You're a troll.

232 posted on 03/21/2012 4:18:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Brown Deer
BS, he never presented anything.

For the sake of his reputation, I wish he hadn't. But he did. And you can bet Obama's loving it.

233 posted on 03/21/2012 4:18:43 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

Not confused, cynwoody: experienced. I’ve watched many, many, many Obama-defenders in action. After a while there’s a dreary sameness to their explanations. The great and wonderful Obama—always honest, always upstanding—does everything right. But always, always he’s a victim of circumstances beyond his control. In this case, he had the long-odds of having a “broken” date stamp used on his form. Poor, poor Obama! The guy just can’t catch a break.

You just keep on shilling, cynwoody. Explanations of the type you offer are in great vogue on some sites. Try fogbow, to see others defend the “broken” date stamp rigamorole.


234 posted on 03/21/2012 4:21:15 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: TigersEye
When anyone else suggests that you twist their words 180 degrees. You're a troll.

How did I do that? You suggested comparing Obama's SSS registration to others. I agreed with you. However, you implied the comparison had already been done, with negative results. That's manifestly false, since the relevant registrations remain locked away in the Federal Records Center, and the fact that none have "surfaced" proves nothing one way or the other.

235 posted on 03/21/2012 4:25:35 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

about debunking falsehoods and pointing out blind alleys

~~~~~

Your opinion only!

And your points are weak, redundant and
superfluous.

You can start out by respecting that folks here
have been relentlessly digging and researching
this genetically and socially engineered radical
cypher who sits in the most powerful seat in the
world in our White House, since mid 2008.

They have uncovered respectable facts and blown
up the outright lies, myths, frauds, distortions
and distractions intentionally proffered by the
BHO comrade network, and they’ve done it for all
that’s good and holy about this great nation .. and
ultimately her preservation as a constitutional
republic.

You see what this demon is doing to us deliberately,
do you not? So what’s your actual agenda?

Why in God’s name would ANYone, especially a so-called
conservative FReeper accept less than men/woman of
the highest personal and professional character,
love of America and moral virtue as their president?

Divided loyalties, right? That matter to you? Or no
national allegiance. Either way, it spells doom for
the country dominated and mandated by such a
ruler.

We’re living it now, day after day after day. This
country is just not good enough for him .. doesn’t
measure up as socialist enough. He’s not naturally
American in outlook or in his core. His mission is
to CHANGE it.

Any and all credible approaches are acceptable, if
founded in truth and honor in pursuit of preserving
the America we love.

NO quibbling, weakening and wobbling about the
critical solemnity and vital importance of the
Constitution’s requirement for the verifiable
eligibility and national loyalty of the potus is
welcomed.

You’re only betraying your true stripes by agitating
against the truth and distracting the discussion.
If you’re trolling for BHO or weakening our values,
you screwed up .. lost. You’ve only served to make
yourself look foolish, feckless, weak, superficial
and careless about your country (if this is, in
fact your country).

The pursuit of the entire truth, no matter the
outcome, is honorable, just and worthy. We stand
for TRUTH.


236 posted on 03/21/2012 4:27:43 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Fantasywriter
You are profoundly confused.
237 posted on 03/21/2012 4:29:49 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Fantasywriter

Your problem is you put out transparent fantasy that tries to destroy Obama but instead ends up helping him and making us look bad when it is shot down.


238 posted on 03/21/2012 4:32:14 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

“What’s arrogant about debunking falsehoods and pointing out blind alleys?”

After all, falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow, right cynwoody?


239 posted on 03/21/2012 4:34:26 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: cynwoody; TigersEye; STARWISE

“Arrogant high horse? What’s arrogant about debunking falsehoods and pointing out blind alleys? “

You haven’t debunked anything, but you have made statements that are LIES.

IBTZ


240 posted on 03/21/2012 4:35:58 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: cynwoody

Try again when you’re lucid. Your last post [to me] sounded more like a non sequitur quote from a liberal site.


241 posted on 03/21/2012 4:37:08 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: cynwoody

Hey 0BOT, you left out what I responded to. So, stop with your BS. Sheriff Joe NEVER presented anything about the layers.

And the fact remains, as you pointed out in your link, that both the birth certificate as posted on the White House web site and the Selective Service registration are both proven forgeries.


242 posted on 03/21/2012 4:37:43 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: cynwoody
You suggested comparing Obama's SSS registration to others.

There is another lie. I never mentioned his SSS registration in any post. Not in my entire posting history much less this thread. You twisted my words and others on this thread numerous times. Here is but one example. Why do you lie and twist people's words? What is the purpose of that?

243 posted on 03/21/2012 4:38:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: STARWISE

Bump to that. You nailed this troll perfectly.


244 posted on 03/21/2012 4:42:34 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: cynwoody

still waiting for all those answers...

Are the questions too complicated for your simple mind?


245 posted on 03/21/2012 4:42:49 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: STARWISE
This country is just not good enough for him .. doesn’t measure up as socialist enough. He’s not naturally American in outlook or in his core. His mission is to CHANGE it.

I agree completely. Obama's problem is not that he's not an American. He is. He's just not an American in his own mind. He doesn't like the Constitution. He thinks he knows better than the Founders. He nurtures deep-seated grievances implanted during his red-diaper baby upbringing. And his agenda is to cut America down to size. That's the case we should be making in the 2012 campaign.

But we are not going to get rid of him with this cockamamie chain email made up birther nonsense! Pushing it only makes conservatives look bad and has no chance of ousting the target.

246 posted on 03/21/2012 4:44:28 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: TigersEye; Fantasywriter

Sorry, that should have been directed to Fantasywriter.


247 posted on 03/21/2012 4:48:27 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

Excuse me, but exactly *who* is making up stuff???

Why, YOU are. You made up a “broken” date stamp out of whole cloth. Your evidence? A big stinking pile of nothing.

Oh, wait a minute. There is one other type of evidence. If Obama is honest, and has shown himself to be trustworthy, then if he puts out a draft registration form, we must presume it is the real deal. After all, if he seldom if ever lies, then he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Got it. You bow at the throne of Obama’s honesty and integrity. As do quite a few folks I know...but none of them post at this site.

Hmm.

Hmmmmmmm.


248 posted on 03/21/2012 4:49:38 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: TigersEye
There is another lie. I never mentioned his SSS registration in any post. Not in my entire posting history much less this thread. You twisted my words and others on this thread numerous times. Here is but one example. Why do you lie and twist people's words? What is the purpose of that?

I also apologize if you are not one of the ones who believes he attended Occidental as a foreign student with one of those 9xx SSNs that Neil Sankey found.

There are so many conflicting, overlapping birther theories and fairy tales, it's hard to keep them all straight!

249 posted on 03/21/2012 4:54:31 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

Your apology falls flat after persisting in twisting my words after having been called on it. You have proved in spades that you are pathologically dishonest. What is the purpose of that?


250 posted on 03/21/2012 5:03:05 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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