Skip to comments.Postman: Ayers family put 'foreigner' Obama through school
Posted on 03/19/2012 9:04:16 PM PDT by STARWISE
A retired U.S. Postal Service carrier who delivered mail to Tom and Mary Ayers in a Chicago suburb in the late 1980s and early 1990s and claims to have met Obama in front of the Ayers home emphatically says yes to all three questions.
Allen Hulton, who was commended for 39 years of honorable service with the USPS, has given a sworn affidavit to investigators commissioned by Maricopa County, Ariz., Sheriff Joe Arpaio to determine whether Obama is eligible for Arizonas 2012 election ballot. Hulton has recorded about three hours of video interviews with WND.
Hulton says that in conversations with Mary Ayers while on his route he learned of the couples enthusiasm and support for a black foreign student. One bright, warm Chicagoland day, he recounts, he met the student who fit Mary Ayers description in front of the Ayers home in Glen Ellyn, Ill. That young man, Hulton is convinced, was Barack Obama.
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Unless it was a Fulbright
It's been ignored because it's guano.
All of which leads to a reasonable request; can we see your school records please? Why such a request is met with deliberate distortions is puzzling and even more puzzling is how twisting the words of those who are asking for clarification is beneficial to anyone particularly conservatives or this forum.
Obama’s records have been sealed and are not available. I have shown you that the Obama Administration has threatened workers who just viewed Obama’s information with prosecution and prison time. You make the silly statement that they would be released anyway. You imply people wouldn't care about going to prison.
You don't even know Obama had a foreign SS# at Occidental. Do a little research.
You make the ridiculous statement that Obama’s Connecticut SS# which was issued to someone else was a “clerical error”. Of course you have no PROOF of that. You are just making things up out of the blue.
There has been considerable analysis of Obama’s Selective Service Documents which first appeared mysteriously in 2008. Atlas Shrugged has an analysis as do several other spots on the Internet. Do a little reading. You might actually learn something.
Instead of asking dumb questions over and over why don't you just admit you are ignorant of these matters? Just say you don't know anything about these issues.
Everyone can already tell.
IMHO....you are a troll.
That's because cynwoody has no interest in the truth. He deliberately lies about what people say in order to disrupt this forum. The question is "why?"
It's of no significance, anyway. No way is it evidence of fraud.
The numbers were issued at a central office, based on the zip code in the applicant's return address. Obama's zip was 96826. If you mistype it as 06826, you get a zip that falls within the zip ranges in Connecticut. That would have caused him to get the next number from Connecticut's pool instead of Hawaii's. Once assigned, SSNs are not changed. But no big deal, because it's just a number, not some sort of falsified credential of Connecticut residence or something.
Oh OK, thanx.
Interesting .. thanks!
Interesting .. thanks!
And SSNs beginning with 9's are IRS ITINs, which are assigned to foreign nationals who might owe US taxes. They are not valid as SSNs. Their main use seems to be to allow illegals to file tax returns and mooch child credits off of us.
That’s a new one. Maybe you should let Snopes and Bill O’Really in on it, because they both think that 0bama Sr. was going to school in Connecticut in 1977.
and the myths never end ;-)
When it goes on for months and years how can there be any doubt? I don't know if its agenda is political agitation or personal amusement but the result is the same. It's misleading and disruptive and it only serves the left.
The dates are for when the record was last updated and even claims that the person on the record probably does not live there. Many Universities have assigned nine-digit "temporary" Social Security numbers to post-graduate foreign nationals beginning with 999. The temporary number is designed to be replaced once the graduate student has received a valid SSN.
It is. Example: You contradicted me on how Obama got into Punahou (admittedly a hazy topic). Then I did the "homework assignment" and provided actual links casting a very little more light on that obscure topic. So you just threw out a bunch more bunk.
We all need to get off the birth thing and onto the other aspects of Obama's biography Ayers and Dohrn and all the rest.
Because it's highly likely that the birth thing is a blind alley and a waste of time. More than likely, he was indeed born in Hawaii, and the BC he gave out will turn out to match the one on file at the Hawaii Department of Health. Of course, you could go the alternative con law route instead and press the argument he isn't natural born because of his father. But the Supreme Court is not going to go with that interpretation after all this time.
There is an election that must be won, and there are no magic bullets. Certainly not birtherism!
In other words, get off your arrogant high horse!
Arrogant high horse? What's arrogant about debunking falsehoods and pointing out blind alleys?
However, I do think we owe you an apology for hijacking your thread, which started out as documentation of the Ayers - Obama linkage. And that's perfectly excellent!
The only one who hi-jacked this thread is you.
“The only thing unusual about the registration is the missing 19 in the date stamp. It was probably just broken.”
Seriously, that’s the most inane Obama’s-records-are-all-legitimate defense I’ve seen on this site. You remind me of zotted troll jamese777 or curiosity [sorry; don’t remember which—they all run together after a while] who had some long, convoluted, whackily improbable explanation for why Obama has a CN SS#. I alluded to this hocu-pocus dingbat theory once, and got some or all the details wrong. [Who could keep them all straight? It was crazy on wheels with a crack-cocaine chaser.]
The troll, whichever one it was, came after me w both guns blazing. He/she wildly and angrily accused me of purposefully misrepresenting his/her theory. I’ve never laughed so hard. As if getting the claptrap thing right would make it any less ridiculous.
For you Obama-defenders no theory is too silly or improbable. No one else’s draft registration has surfaced w the date stamp “broken”. What are the odds it would happen only to our hapless boy-scout-honest hip young president, and to him alone?
Odds, you say? You don’t need no stinkin’ odds. You know it’s legitimate because Obama says it is, and hells bells, the man never lies. Straight as an arrow, that guy—and everybody knows it. /s
Shilling for Obama. It’s filthy work, but somebody’s got to do it, right cynwoody?
It's probably not forged. The Sheriff presented the layers argument. However, that was shot down almost a year ago. When you use the software tools that were used on that document, you get the kinds of effects the Sheriff meticulously documented. To be sure, they are there, but they don't add up to forgery.
Remember, there is an original on file in Hawaii. If the document Obama gave out were ever shown not to match that original in all material facts asserted, the game would be up. Obama and his lawyers know that. But if they do match, then the only recourse is to impeach the original on file. And, given the passage of time, that's likely not doable either.
Obama Birth Certificate Faked In Adobe Illustrator - Official Proof 1 ( Layers ) (one of four videos)
That is precisely how that question should be answered. But you would need access to the full pile of federal records. You would need to dig in and find other SSS registrations submitted from that post office in that time frame. Then you could see if any of them have or do not have missing 19s, and you could also compare other details on the stamps and the rest of the forms.
However, to cite the fact that nobody else's registration has surfaced proves nothing, since obviously there is no reason for anybody else's to have surfaced.
Shilling for Obama. Its filthy work, but somebodys got to do it, right cynwoody?
You are profoundly confused.
When anyone else suggests that you twist their words 180 degrees. You're a troll.
For the sake of his reputation, I wish he hadn't. But he did. And you can bet Obama's loving it.
Not confused, cynwoody: experienced. I’ve watched many, many, many Obama-defenders in action. After a while there’s a dreary sameness to their explanations. The great and wonderful Obama—always honest, always upstanding—does everything right. But always, always he’s a victim of circumstances beyond his control. In this case, he had the long-odds of having a “broken” date stamp used on his form. Poor, poor Obama! The guy just can’t catch a break.
You just keep on shilling, cynwoody. Explanations of the type you offer are in great vogue on some sites. Try fogbow, to see others defend the “broken” date stamp rigamorole.
How did I do that? You suggested comparing Obama's SSS registration to others. I agreed with you. However, you implied the comparison had already been done, with negative results. That's manifestly false, since the relevant registrations remain locked away in the Federal Records Center, and the fact that none have "surfaced" proves nothing one way or the other.
about debunking falsehoods and pointing out blind alleys
Your opinion only!
And your points are weak, redundant and
You can start out by respecting that folks here
have been relentlessly digging and researching
this genetically and socially engineered radical
cypher who sits in the most powerful seat in the
world in our White House, since mid 2008.
They have uncovered respectable facts and blown
up the outright lies, myths, frauds, distortions
and distractions intentionally proffered by the
BHO comrade network, and they’ve done it for all
that’s good and holy about this great nation .. and
ultimately her preservation as a constitutional
You see what this demon is doing to us deliberately,
do you not? So what’s your actual agenda?
Why in God’s name would ANYone, especially a so-called
conservative FReeper accept less than men/woman of
the highest personal and professional character,
love of America and moral virtue as their president?
Divided loyalties, right? That matter to you? Or no
national allegiance. Either way, it spells doom for
the country dominated and mandated by such a
We’re living it now, day after day after day. This
country is just not good enough for him .. doesn’t
measure up as socialist enough. He’s not naturally
American in outlook or in his core. His mission is
to CHANGE it.
Any and all credible approaches are acceptable, if
founded in truth and honor in pursuit of preserving
the America we love.
NO quibbling, weakening and wobbling about the
critical solemnity and vital importance of the
Constitution’s requirement for the verifiable
eligibility and national loyalty of the potus is
You’re only betraying your true stripes by agitating
against the truth and distracting the discussion.
If you’re trolling for BHO or weakening our values,
you screwed up .. lost. You’ve only served to make
yourself look foolish, feckless, weak, superficial
and careless about your country (if this is, in
fact your country).
The pursuit of the entire truth, no matter the
outcome, is honorable, just and worthy. We stand
Your problem is you put out transparent fantasy that tries to destroy Obama but instead ends up helping him and making us look bad when it is shot down.
“What’s arrogant about debunking falsehoods and pointing out blind alleys?”
After all, falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow, right cynwoody?
“Arrogant high horse? What’s arrogant about debunking falsehoods and pointing out blind alleys? “
You haven’t debunked anything, but you have made statements that are LIES.
Try again when you’re lucid. Your last post [to me] sounded more like a non sequitur quote from a liberal site.
Hey 0BOT, you left out what I responded to. So, stop with your BS. Sheriff Joe NEVER presented anything about the layers.
And the fact remains, as you pointed out in your link, that both the birth certificate as posted on the White House web site and the Selective Service registration are both proven forgeries.
There is another lie. I never mentioned his SSS registration in any post. Not in my entire posting history much less this thread. You twisted my words and others on this thread numerous times. Here is but one example. Why do you lie and twist people's words? What is the purpose of that?
Bump to that. You nailed this troll perfectly.
still waiting for all those answers...
Are the questions too complicated for your simple mind?
I agree completely. Obama's problem is not that he's not an American. He is. He's just not an American in his own mind. He doesn't like the Constitution. He thinks he knows better than the Founders. He nurtures deep-seated grievances implanted during his red-diaper baby upbringing. And his agenda is to cut America down to size. That's the case we should be making in the 2012 campaign.
But we are not going to get rid of him with this cockamamie chain email made up birther nonsense! Pushing it only makes conservatives look bad and has no chance of ousting the target.
Sorry, that should have been directed to Fantasywriter.
Excuse me, but exactly *who* is making up stuff???
Why, YOU are. You made up a “broken” date stamp out of whole cloth. Your evidence? A big stinking pile of nothing.
Oh, wait a minute. There is one other type of evidence. If Obama is honest, and has shown himself to be trustworthy, then if he puts out a draft registration form, we must presume it is the real deal. After all, if he seldom if ever lies, then he deserves the benefit of the doubt.
Got it. You bow at the throne of Obama’s honesty and integrity. As do quite a few folks I know...but none of them post at this site.
I also apologize if you are not one of the ones who believes he attended Occidental as a foreign student with one of those 9xx SSNs that Neil Sankey found.
There are so many conflicting, overlapping birther theories and fairy tales, it's hard to keep them all straight!
Your apology falls flat after persisting in twisting my words after having been called on it. You have proved in spades that you are pathologically dishonest. What is the purpose of that?