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Postman: Ayers family put 'foreigner' Obama through school
WND ^ | 3-19-12 | Jerome Corsi

Posted on 03/19/2012 9:04:16 PM PDT by STARWISE


Allen Hulton

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A retired U.S. Postal Service carrier who delivered mail to Tom and Mary Ayers in a Chicago suburb in the late 1980s and early 1990s and claims to have met Obama in front of the Ayers home emphatically says yes to all three questions.

Allen Hulton, who was commended for 39 years of honorable service with the USPS, has given a sworn affidavit to investigators commissioned by Maricopa County, Ariz., Sheriff Joe Arpaio to determine whether Obama is eligible for Arizona’s 2012 election ballot. Hulton has recorded about three hours of video interviews with WND.

Hulton says that in conversations with Mary Ayers while on his route he learned of the couple’s enthusiasm and support for a black foreign student. One bright, warm Chicagoland day, he recounts, he met the student who fit Mary Ayers’ description in front of the Ayers home in Glen Ellyn, Ill. That young man, Hulton is convinced, was Barack Obama.


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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: ayers; birthcertificate; corruption; democrats; foreignstudent; fraud; guyfromneighborhood; illinois; naturalborncitizen; nobama2012; obama; obamatruthfile; postman
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To: cynwoody; TigersEye; Fantasywriter; Brown Deer

“There are so many conflicting, overlapping birther theories and fairy tales, it’s hard to keep them all straight! “ “Clerical errors”......”broken stamps” and you accuse US of “birther theories” and “fairy tales”


251 posted on 03/21/2012 5:03:12 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Fantasywriter
Excuse me, but exactly *who* is making up stuff???

Why, YOU are. You made up a “broken” date stamp out of whole cloth. Your evidence? A big stinking pile of nothing.

A broken date stamp is what any reasonable person would assume, absent other evidence. IOW, the evidence for the broken date stamp theory is simply the lack of other evidence.

OK, I'll grant you his SSS registration might be a modern forgery perpetrated by his peeps in the Federal Records Center. I'd be overjoyed if that could be proven. But it would take an extensive investigation to compare it to other registrations from the same post office in the same time frame. That isn't going to happen, based on what we've seen so far. So, I conclude, it's a blind alley, a waste of time.

252 posted on 03/21/2012 5:03:25 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
cynwoody
253 posted on 03/21/2012 5:07:37 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

It has the distinct pattern of a disinformation campaign doesn’t it?


254 posted on 03/21/2012 5:07:43 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Brown Deer

I like your new graphic sig.


255 posted on 03/21/2012 5:09:40 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody; Fantasywriter; TigersEye

“A broken date stamp is what any reasonable person would assume,”

Horsecrap.....it is preposterous!!


256 posted on 03/21/2012 5:12:21 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: cynwoody

makes conservatives look bad and has no chance of ousting the target.

~~~~~

Who are you .. God? Appointed defender of conservatism?
A prophet or soothsayer with a proven track record? Or
a concern troll?

Pffft!

Whatever your gig, you sure have a low bar for
excellence, leadership and love of country.

NO ONE knows all the hidden truths yet and when
the lies will be revealed. God knows the truth
hunters have already peeled back layer after
cunningly, deceitfully, and carefully hidden layers
that were meant purposely to always be concealed.

The man is the poster child for deceit.

And why?

If that’s your choice of a solid, sound, honorable
president and leader .. a man with a purposely
sealed past, a deceiver, socialist radical, bully
and demon who actually threatens those who
question him and his past.. then you just frolic
and roll around in the anti-American, evil milieu
of dictatorship. Welcome aboard your new life.
Isn’t it just lovely?

In the mean time, just leave everyone else made of
stronger stuff and values .. those who reject this
deceiver in chief .. ALONE!

And remember one thing: sooner or later, THE TRUTH
ALWAYS COMES OUT.


257 posted on 03/21/2012 5:12:33 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: TigersEye

Like Carney wrote it himself....see 256.


258 posted on 03/21/2012 5:13:58 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: cynwoody

You should. Keep asking questions. Too bad you don’t know any answers.


259 posted on 03/21/2012 5:20:01 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: cynwoody

“A broken date stamp is what any reasonable person would assume, absent other evidence.”

It’s certainly what any Obot would assume.

Of course, Obots assume Obama is fundamentally honest, so you can understand why they make stuff up at every turn to defend him. His form should have a four numeral date? No problem! The stamp was broken of course. Anybody who doesn’t think that is just being unreasonable, duh.

/s


260 posted on 03/21/2012 5:20:15 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: cynwoody; Fantasywriter
A broken date stamp is what any reasonable person would assume, absent other evidence. IOW, the evidence for the broken date stamp theory is simply the lack of other evidence.

I'm still wondering how that broken stamp from Los Angeles got changed to Hawaii.
261 posted on 03/21/2012 5:22:09 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

LOL!


262 posted on 03/21/2012 5:23:57 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: STARWISE
Who are you ..

see link @237
263 posted on 03/21/2012 5:24:53 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

LOL ....


264 posted on 03/21/2012 5:26:04 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

BTTT!!

Great post STARWISE!


265 posted on 03/21/2012 5:37:33 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Brown Deer
I'm still wondering how that broken stamp from Los Angeles got changed to Hawaii.

How do you know it was from Los Angeles?

266 posted on 03/21/2012 5:46:57 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Thanks, Ron .. ;)


267 posted on 03/21/2012 5:51:55 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: cynwoody
How do you know it was from Los Angeles?

You don't think it was Barack 0bama, who filled it out and took it to the post office?
268 posted on 03/21/2012 5:59:26 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; cynwoody
“A broken date stamp is what any reasonable person would assume,”

Horsecrap.....it is preposterous!!

Of course. If an assumption has to be made naturally it falls on the side of a known liar (0bungles) even if it is the more unlikely assumption. Now remind me why assumptions about 0bama's records are the only choices? Oh, right, because all of his records have been assiduously hidden from the public domain.

But if you avoid making assumptions and ask that his records be made public someone will robotically jump in and twist your words around to make it sound like you have made an assumption. I would cite Alinsky here but it sounds more like a ChiCom troll tactic.

269 posted on 03/21/2012 6:16:34 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Brown Deer
You don't think it was Barack 0bama, who filled it out and took it to the post office?

It's dated 29 July. So, you have information he remained in California over summer break?

Or was the mulatto back home, scooping ice cream and slinging burgers to make a little spare change?

270 posted on 03/21/2012 6:16:46 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“Sideshow” Carney a FReeper? That would be something.


271 posted on 03/21/2012 6:19:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: cynwoody

I have never heard that he ever had a job slinging burgers. Link please! Or is that just an assumption?


272 posted on 03/21/2012 6:25:49 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

He worked scooping ice cream at a Baskin Robbins for about 2 weeks, and was fired. He said he didn’t like working for the enemy, anyway (in his book)


273 posted on 03/21/2012 6:51:21 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: TigersEye; RaceBannon
I have never heard that he ever had a job slinging burgers. Link please! Or is that just an assumption?

According to this page,

As a college student at Occidental in Southern California, Obama returned home to Hawaii the summer after freshman year to sell island trinkets in a gift shop.

Obama also had a summertime job at a deli counter in Hawaii — making sandwiches.

And then there is this post from a Marine who remembers running into the odd mulatto, "all teeth, smiling, skinny", who wanted to be President and was born in Mombasa, at one of the places he worked.

It's quite a famous story. I'm surprised you don't remember it.

274 posted on 03/21/2012 6:56:50 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: stephenjohnbanker

and that was a couple years before that number from Connecticut was issued. ;-)


275 posted on 03/21/2012 7:00:24 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: cynwoody

oh, I and many others know the answers to those questions, but you still have a lot of unanswered questions to catch up on.


276 posted on 03/21/2012 7:03:34 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

Yeah : )


277 posted on 03/21/2012 7:11:40 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: cynwoody
As a college student at Occidental in Southern California, Obama returned home to Hawaii the summer after freshman year to sell island trinkets in a gift shop.

So you think he made enough money to commute back and forth?

btw, you shouldn't be posting links to videos of his children. Please keep the kids out of this.
278 posted on 03/21/2012 7:17:40 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer
So you think he made enough money to commute back and forth?

Who knows? Also, remember his grandparents both worked, Toot had a relatively good job at the bank, and they did not live extravagantly. So, yeah, I can believe he had the means to come back home for summer vacation.

btw, you shouldn't be posting links to videos of his children. Please keep the kids out of this.

Ugh. Did you have to make me go back and check that putrid video? Although the interviewer is nice to look at ...

279 posted on 03/21/2012 7:38:57 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
So, yeah, I can believe he had the means to come back home for summer vacation.

So, you are calling his sister and his roommate liars?
280 posted on 03/21/2012 8:21:01 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: edge919
Codswallop and balderdash.

If a minor child who is an American citizen is taken to another country and naturalized there, given a passport, enrolled in that country's schools, takes oaths to that nation, sings its funky national anthem in the native tongue every frickin' schoolday, and is send to a madrassa run by a fire-breathing Imam, etc. ad inf. et naus., that kid may return to American citizenship by simply asking for it as he reaches his majority. Or, if his mom sends him home to Hawaii after she breaks up with her latest commie stooge.

In short, fellow Freeper, if an American kid wants his USA Citizenship back, he gets it back. This whole Indonesian fandango is a blind alley, probably paid for by Soros to lead us astray. Misdirection. Legerdemain. Look here, NOT there!

Barack Hussein Obama is ineligible to have run for President because both of his parents were not American citizens, not because he was cared for by a tranvestite gay nanny in Indonesia. He wouldn't be an NBC even if Stanley Ann dropped her foal while sliding into home plate at Dodger Stadium of the 4th of July with the Marine Band playing 'Stars and Stripes Forever.'

Stay focused.

281 posted on 03/21/2012 8:40:31 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk ((So, you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out this eligibility stuff?))
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I know about the ice cream scooping job. I had never read how long he kept it though.


282 posted on 03/21/2012 8:42:01 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: cynwoody; RaceBannon
Your first link is second-hand info from an anonymous author. Is that the kind of credibility you're allowed to get away with? LOL

Your second link is much better. Glad you take FReeper Race Bannon at his word. So you will now concede that 0bama admitted that he was born in Mombassa Kenya of course.

283 posted on 03/21/2012 8:48:00 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
...if an American kid wants his USA Citizenship back, he gets it back.

'If' being the operative word. 0bama has never said he did do the necessary paperwork to reclaim his citizenship. No one has asked him. There is no documentation to support that idea. You have no more than anyone else. Just pure speculation.

284 posted on 03/21/2012 8:53:50 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Seizethecarp
Carp, Sheriff Joe is doing a hell of a great job!

So what? Call me when (a) the Arizona AG, or even the DA's office in Maricopa County agrees with the findings and issues an order banning Barry from the ballot,
or (b)Someone Issues a warrant for his arrest for fraud.

We are going nuts. Obviously the SOB is ineligible. Unfortunately, those who could do something about that, don't. Just as unfortunate, Sheriff Joe is one of those who cannot ... except bring it to the attention of those few who care to listen.

285 posted on 03/21/2012 8:56:24 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk ((So, you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out this eligibility stuff?))
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To: Brown Deer
So, you are calling his sister and his roommate liars?

Enlighten me. What's their story? Link?

His roommate, Vinai Thummalapally, now US Ambassador to Belize, supposedly has "pictures on the beach with Obama when they met up in Hawaii on a summer break from college".

Obviously, if it can be shown he was in LA when he was supposed to be in a Honolulu post office, that would be huge.

286 posted on 03/21/2012 9:18:52 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Kenny Bunk
This has NOTHING to do with Soros. Focus on what I actually wrote and not on your imagination. This is a quote from the State Department website:
A child being adopted from the United States to another Convention country retains his/her U.S. citizenship. He or she may also acquire the citizenship of the prospective adoptive parents depending on the citizenship status of the parents and the laws of the other Convention country. In other words, the child may become a dual citizen.

link

Indonesia is NOT a "convention country." The Hague convention can only guarantee that the child retains citizenship and becomes a dual citizen for convention countries. At the time Obama would have been adopted, Indonesia did NOT allow dual citizenship. Obama would have been an Indonesian citizen only and the ONLY way Obama would have been able to repatriate would have been by formal application (i.e., naturalization) ... BUT that's if and only if he ever had U.S. citizenship prior to being adopted in Indonesia. To date, there's no legal proof that Obama was a U.S. citizen.

287 posted on 03/21/2012 9:24:03 PM PDT by edge919
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To: TigersEye
So you will now concede that 0bama admitted that he was born in Mombassa Kenya of course.

I don't know ... it would still need to be backed up. He might have been idly boasting to make himself more interesting to his Marine visitor. Lying about such a fact in idle conversation at the age of 19 would not be disqualifying, even if it could be proven he actually said it.

It is still necessary to impeach his BC and the birth announcements and the implausibility of penniless BHO, Sr., gallivanting around the world with a pregnant wife.

I think I read that, when challenged on eligibility if born in Mombasa, he maintained he was in the clear because his mother was American. And, irony of ironies, that's probably true, since the age limit she famously didn't satisfy only applied to married women, and her marriage to BHO, Sr., wasn't valid because he already had at least one wife back in Kenya.

288 posted on 03/21/2012 9:35:37 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: TigersEye
No one has asked him.

And there is no law to make him !

Tiger, IMNSVHO, there is only one way out of this eligibility conundrum. One state AG has to remove Obama from his state's ballot.

If Obama wanted to be on the ballot, Team Obama would have to sue the AG. They would become the PLAINTIFF. No matter how that case ended: win, lose, or draw, it would be booted to the SCOTUS. Too simple. Of course, taking a page from Abe Lincoln's campaign strategy, Obama could simply choose not to be on that state's ballot! But, the point would be made!

The basic "mistake" made to date by all of those trying to trap the weasel is by making Team Obama, or trying to make them, the DEFENDANTS.

But one State AG. 1. One man; and all of this absurd Obama house of cards would tumble. It is doing absolutely no good for us to chase each other around Robin Hood's Barn when we cannot find one man in the country with the authority and the courage to act.

BTW, many have asked me what courts have examined the Copy of the Abstract the WH released as the BC. Wrong question. They have accepted it by denying the petitions of those who wish it examined. E.G., the Georgia Case, among others. The Courts, The GOP, Our elected Republican Representatives on every level, and of course the MSM, maintain that "Obama was born in Hawaii," and do not even entertain the Constitutional question of Natural Born Citizenship. For them, there is no issue. "Hawaii," they say. "Case closed." Have you heard one (1) Republican Primary Candidate mention the issue?

In regard to Sheriff Joe: It is patently NOT an official investigation. Furthermore, not one (1) AZ official with the authority to act on the findings has agreed to do so. A Sheriff can arrest a criminal for anything he feels appropriate. However, if the prosecuting attorney refuses to act, that criminal goes free.

Obama's lack of eligibility has, in IMNSVHO, plunged us into a Constitutional Crisis. If Obama is defeated at the polls, Constitutional Eligibility may be addressed by the courts. But I certainly wouldn't count on it .... not when otherwise responsible Republicans push for Marco Rubio , or Bobby Jindal, as National Candidates!

289 posted on 03/21/2012 9:39:42 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk ((So, you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out this eligibility stuff?))
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To: cynwoody
I don't know ... it would still need to be backed up. He might have been idly boasting to make himself more interesting to his Marine visitor. Lying about such a fact in idle conversation at the age of 19 would not be disqualifying, even if it could be proven he actually said it.

This issue here isn't whether there is court room evidence it's what you choose to believe. Every single time on every single issue you choose to take 0bama's side. Even when you choose what you yourself admit to as a credible witness you find a way to spin it in 0bama's favor.

You're an 0bot troll who will stretch anything to find cover for him.

290 posted on 03/21/2012 9:41:12 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
And there is no law to make him !

So what? That's not the point. That's not anyone's point except the 0bot shills.

291 posted on 03/21/2012 9:42:53 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye
It is safe to say that attempting to use the law on someone who operates outside of it, and furthermore has the DOJ in his corner, is very difficult.

IMNSVHO, Sheriff Joe has established enough uncertainty to have the AZ AG remove Obama from the AZ Ballot. That of course, would be the man's job. That is, he is paid for, among other things, to establish candidates' eligibility to run for office.

Since there is no law to make Obama do anything, the only way to get him to tell the truth is to make him bring it to court ... as a PLAINTIFF.

292 posted on 03/21/2012 9:51:51 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk ((So, you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out this eligibility stuff?))
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To: Kenny Bunk
It is safe to say that attempting to use the law on someone who operates outside of it, and furthermore has the DOJ in his corner, is very difficult.

Again, so what? Who suggested that? Your deflections aren't working.

293 posted on 03/21/2012 9:53:38 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

One cannot deflect the obtuse.


294 posted on 03/21/2012 9:55:54 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk ((So, you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out this eligibility stuff?))
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To: Kenny Bunk

But you can certainly maintain your obtuseness about the point without so much as a stutter.


295 posted on 03/21/2012 9:58:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: cynwoody
you keep fishing for links, without answering questions?

His roommate, Vinai Thummalapally, now US Ambassador to Belize, supposedly has "pictures on the beach with Obama when they met up in Hawaii on a summer break from college".

So, what's your point? They spent the summer of 1980 on Venice Beach.

Obviously, if it can be shown he was in LA when he was supposed to be in a Honolulu post office, that would be huge.

Yes, it is huge. ;-)
Sorry, no links to those details.

Venice Beach 1980
296 posted on 03/21/2012 10:04:19 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: TigersEye
This issue here isn't whether there is court room evidence

Actually, it's worse than that. US Senate two-thirds vote, not court room, is the relevant standard.

Every single time on every single issue you choose to take 0bama's side. Even when you choose what you yourself admit to as a credible witness you find a way to spin it in 0bama's favor.

I look at things objectively. There's a reason that, before Sheriff Joe, no respectable Republicans have been on board the Birther Express. It's because you really do have to have the goods on him. You can't just make up stuff that might be true and expect it to stick.

He's going to have to be ousted at the ballot box for his policies, not legal technicalities. There are no magic bullets.

297 posted on 03/21/2012 10:10:19 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Brown Deer
They spent the summer of 1980 on Venice Beach.

You need a link for that. In any case, Venice Beach is not in Hawaii, where the Thummalapallys remember being on the beach with Obama (which year they don't state, so there is hope).

You can't just wish he spent the summer in LA without being in Honolulu on July 29, 1980. You need proof. Of course, if there is proof, that would blow open a beaut of a charge, but it was 32 years ago, so don't get your hopes up.

298 posted on 03/21/2012 10:18:45 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
There is nothing objective about single mindedly taking 0bama's side no matter what the issue no matter what the context. But you did manage to create another misdirection and insinuate that I was arguing about what would or wouldn't work to legally remove 0bama.

Your every comment is inherently dishonest. What is your purpose in doing that?

299 posted on 03/21/2012 10:21:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

It’s not in the best interest of conservatives to spin ludicrous theories.


300 posted on 03/21/2012 10:29:01 PM PDT by cynwoody
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